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gw has said nothing relating seraphim for january. only thing about seraphim they have said is "sometime next year" while for others where date was even indirectly hinted was january.

GW being illogical at times I'm not taking seraphim coming on january until gw actually says so. which hopefully is tomorrow.

There's also possibility of course where both seraphim don't come to preorder on 11 and they are dual kit is possible. Specifically the zephyr was long term preview for wave 2 and they dont come with first wave.

(which actually makes sense now that I think. These are not reveals of units coming on 11.1 but are part of the wave 2. Expecting all 16 kits or so in wave 1 would be optimistic anyway)

So, Eisenhorn, Damien 1427 and Artemis are now in 40k proper. Who's next? The current DCA already look quite similar to Severina an Sevora, but not identical.
Another Inquisitor, like Tyrus or Covenant? Barbaretta and her Cyber-Mastiff? Or Malicant? I'd love for a 28mm plastic Malicant to add to my sisters, along with a Frateris Militia/Redemptionist unit!
[edit]Or Quovandius lol[/edit]

When I first saw the Repenters, I was cautious enough to wait for the rest of the line. Now, I'm glad I held off on getting even one model; these guys look more like feminist dominatrix-nuns than actual orphans trained to fight on(or at )the same level as the Astartes.

I'm sorry, but I think I'm done posting on this topic. In fact, The only model from that line I will buy is a single Agro-Flagellant for Blackstone Fortress. Such a shame, the sisters looked great too....


Disclaimer: I apologise if the comment sounded inappropiate to some. Dominatrix-nuns kinda creep me out, which is why I don't like Nasir, Skaard or Eden's Matriarchy.

 parakuribo wrote:
feminist dominatrix-nuns

Very confused

Look like nuns, male models are in less clothing. I don't care for more or less clothing, and it's nice to see more empowering women as models, but how they made the Engines, Flagellants and Repenters....I expect this from stuff like Ral Partha, but from GW of all things....

And this IS the last time I post on this topic.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 parakuribo wrote:
feminist dominatrix-nuns

Very confused

I'm totally down with feminist dominatrix-nuns!


As for the release, it worries me that they only showed couple of the kits. I really hope we will get all them ASAP. This is effective a launch of fully new army, many people don't have metal SoB and are starting from scratch, so it will be annoying if you can't purchase all the models. And personally I won't be getting any more of them until the Repentias are available, as I want to give my PA Sisters some Repentia heads.

GW dropped pretty much the whole of Ossiarch Bonereapers on one weekend. Two weeks and they can have most of the Sisters of Battle out and on the market, excluding perhaps one or two that they will randomly hold at ransom for a year

How many kits that was? Sisters is 16 kits minimum.

And yes they could but do they? They already said "sometime next year" for seraphim which is either blunder or there's more than 1 wave.

It was around 10 kits on one weekend, with 3 or so the week before (which also had the battletome, cards etc..). I'd wager GW could easily do Sisters of Battle over 2 weekends with a big release on both.

 parakuribo wrote:
Look like nuns, male models are in less clothing.

Honestly don't look like nuns.
I mean, here we are all influenced because we know the lore. But show this to someone who doesn't know the lore and ask them to describe:

I'm personally betting you'll never never hear the word nun, ever.

As for the less clothing for male characters, yes female arcoflagellants have a bit more clothing than male ones because “female-presenting nipples are a no-no” (© Tumblr.com, 2018). But given more than half of the arcoflagellant are female, I don't get a “women are dominating men” vibe (was that what you meant by using feminist?) from it. And you could easily add Thaddeus from Blackstone Fortress if you want male character that looks in a position of power to diminish that effect even more.
GW is doing the “evil matriarchy” thing in Age of Sigmar now, with the Daughters of Khaine.

 Crimson wrote:
I'm totally down with feminist dominatrix-nuns!

But how do you represent feminist in model form?

 Overread wrote:
It was around 10 kits on one weekend, with 3 or so the week before (which also had the battletome, cards etc..). I'd wager GW could easily do Sisters of Battle over 2 weekends with a big release on both.

Yes they could but do they. If GW hadn't specifically said "sometime next year" with seraphim that would be reasonable expectation but also keep in mind GW has history of dragging releases and keeping stuff for multiple months away. They haven't said specifically that these comes in january so for sure we know only that they come now within 3 months but whether it's preorder next week or preorder 3 months later is guess work.

 Crimson wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 parakuribo wrote:
feminist dominatrix-nuns

Very confused

I'm totally down with feminist dominatrix-nuns!


As for the release, it worries me that they only showed couple of the kits. I really hope we will get all them ASAP. This is effective a launch of fully new army, many people don't have metal SoB and are starting from scratch, so it will be annoying if you can't purchase all the models. And personally I won't be getting any more of them until the Repentias are available, as I want to give my PA Sisters some Repentia heads.

They’ve just shown the kits today that we hadn’t seen before. They’ve shown everything else already.

 ImAGeek wrote:

They’ve just shown the kits today that we hadn’t seen before. They’ve shown everything else already.

A good point. I hope it means they release all of them at once then!

 Crimson wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

They’ve just shown the kits today that we hadn’t seen before. They’ve shown everything else already.

A good point. I hope it means they release all of them at once then!

I think they’ll all come out over 2, maybe 3 weeks.

 ImAGeek wrote:

I think they’ll all come out over 2, maybe 3 weeks.

That would be acceptable.

The battle sanctum confuses me. The wall looks like it's a false front for a Hollywood set. And an eggshell, for some reason.
The statue is fine, but I'm not getting 'sanctum' out of the piece. Just another random imperial ruin


As for the rest of the lineup- retributors are fine (exactly as expected), flagellants still seem too non-threatening (being battered by a short length of cable seems... tame for the setting), zephyrim are boring (partly the flight stand) and the mortifier is an even uglier, overdesigned version of the existing power suit.

I'm bummed at the extra spiky trim on the Zephyrim jump packs... I cant imagine there are two full sets of packs in a dual kit, but maybe there are. A dual kit sure seems like the obvious choice. I was intending to modify the five Seraphim from the army box into Zephyrim and have them join the two Geminae I never use for a total of 7 before the kit even drops, but now it seems they may not be mix and match? I assume future Seraphim kits will at least match those in the army box.

Battle Sanctum is a little bland... I may build one to match my table in the same dimensions.

Otherwise, awesome models across the board!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So, Eisenhorn, Damien 1427 and Artemis are now in 40k proper. Who's next? The current DCA already look quite similar to Severina an Sevora, but not identical.
Another Inquisitor, like Tyrus or Covenant? Barbaretta and her Cyber-Mastiff? Or Malicant? I'd love for a 28mm plastic Malicant to add to my sisters, along with a Frateris Militia/Redemptionist unit!
[edit]Or Quovandius lol[/edit]

I would love to see Covenant or Tyrus in 40k, but I think the Inquisitor train has sadly passed us by

 MacPhail wrote:
I'm bummed at the extra spiky trim on the Zephyrim jump packs... I cant imagine there are two full sets of packs in a dual kit, but maybe there are. A dual kit sure seems like the obvious choice. I was intending to modify the five Seraphim from the army box into Zephyrim and have them join the two Geminae I never use for a total of 7 before the kit even drops, but now it seems they may not be mix and match? I assume future Seraphim kits will at least match those in the army box.

Battle Sanctum is a little bland... I may build one to match my table in the same dimensions.

Otherwise, awesome models across the board!

There are 2 full sets - we’ve seen the Seraphim before and all 5 had jet packs without the extra bit the Zephyrim have.

Really? Looks like the same backpacks with two extra little bits added to it to me.

 alextroy wrote:
Really? Looks like the same backpacks with two extra little bits added to it to me.

The pipes look more spread out too than the Seraphim ones.

They're even the same bodies for crying out loud...

Well I pretty much knew I was going to be all-in on this release as a devoted Sisters player since they were released.

Today was the first time I started thinking about the monetary cost... this is going to be a costly project.

Could be the central “backpack” part is the same but the different outer wings and tops are separate pieces?

Definitely the same bodies though.

Voss wrote:
The battle sanctum confuses me. The wall looks like it's a false front for a Hollywood set. And an eggshell, for some reason.
The statue is fine, but I'm not getting 'sanctum' out of the piece. Just another random imperial ruin

I like it and I'll get one, but yeah, basically it's a statue with a formfitting ruin wrapping around it that restricts the terrain piece to the smallest possible footprint the humongous statue allows. Seems like an unconvincing compromise of being larger than is practical in game terms but less grand than it should be as a devotional piece of Imperial architecture.

I got a similar impression from the Genestealer drill, too. The main drill is really cool, but the rest of it is minimal and doesn't seem to complement to size and weight of the drill.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They're even the same bodies for crying out loud...

Yep. One kit for sure. It seems to me that the top parts of the 'wings' above the golden spheres might be separate pieces.

 Crimson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They're even the same bodies for crying out loud...

Yep. One kit for sure. It seems to me that the top parts of the 'wings' above the golden spheres might be separate pieces.

Could be. I still think the pipes of the packs are slightly more spread out on the Zephyrim ones but could be deceptive from the photos (or my eyes!). Either way, defo one kit.

Its your eyes and the angle. The zephs all hide the ribbed central area with their heads, but most of the sephs have the same two stage 'pipe' crossbeam.

Its just the difference isn't just the spiky bit. The cap over the orbs is wider on the sephs.

Voss wrote:
Its your eyes and the angle. The zephs all hide the ribbed central area with their heads, but most of the sephs have the same two stage 'pipe' crossbeam.

Its just the difference isn't just the spiky bit. The cap over the orbs is wider on the sephs.

I don’t mean that, I mean the ‘feather’/exhaust parts of the wings. There seems to be more space between them towards the tips on the Zephyrim to the Seraphim. Pipes wasn’t a good word for it. The Zephyrim wings seem more open.

I'll be happy to be wrong about the spiked jet pack trim... if there's a box with inferno hands, flamer hands, sword hands, and both options for jet packs, then I'm a VERY happy modeller.


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And, a spruce preview cant be far off now that we've seen the promo photos.