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 Crimson wrote:
The halflings look great. Now I want to convert them into some sort of halfling militia for AOS. Is there any warscrolls that would suit to represent such?

Gustbusters! I'm serious!

Few models so works well with the team
Faction is focused around an obsession with food just like the halflings
It is an amusing blend of the biggest army with the smallest models (don't sell those halflings short!)


Granted the base size would likely require some custom work to make them look ok on huge bases (and you could also double base so base them on regular bases and then have an insert slot on a larger base for them to magnetize onto whilst remaining on their normal base).

I'm looking forward to Killteam Elite more than Commander (which I didn't buy). I like the idea of optional expansions for different kinds of smaller skirmish games. On the other hand, having to buy a full-price book and then pay extra for unit-specific stuff does make it lose a lot of appeal for me.

If they have Flash Gitz and the Mek Shop as a discounted bundle I will probably buy several.They sold half the Mek Shop terrain (the scrap piles) as part of Speed Freeks so they might have had a bunch of the workshop sprues lying around.

I'm looking at the Halfling Blood Bowl team and wondering about using them as a starting point to make Ratling Snipers to supplement my metal ones. Ratlings are already pretty goofy, IMO, but those might just be too goofy to use as them.

I kinda expect Elites to be the last category of units to be added to Kill Team. Sure, there are a few Fast Attack/Heavy Support options that could make it in, but the jokes in this thread aren't far off just adding Elites. I could see a few more factions being added to Kill Team, but wholesale groups of stuff, not really.

I wouldn't be surprised if Games Workshop ended their support with Kill Team and started their support of the new Combat Patrol game. I can't say I would blame the either. I know quite a few players that would cater to myself included. The slow boil to proper 40k over a couple of years just might work out well with these stepping stone games. I don't know.

With Elite, I am already going to have to decide which of my kill teams will get reinforced to play Elites. More factions will make the cut if Commanders/HQs aren't needed, a lot less factions will if Commanders/HQs are needed. Combat Patrol done well could convince me to expand on my Orks and Tau kill teams if done well.

I do want terminators in Kill Team expensive as that might get for me along with the other new CSM stuff this year. I hope Elites keeps a good thing going with Kill Team and doesn't break the game.

I think that the "Elites" in the title doesn't line up excatly with the Elites slot in regular 40k. Regular Kill Team already had some Elites, as well as some Fast Attack and Heavy Support. I'm not sure what this expansions will bring, but if it includes Flash Gitz then that's already a Heavy Support option.

ETA: I hope they include DE Wracks. Seemed weird for them to be gone from regular Kill Team.

 Insane Ivan wrote:

Insularum wrote:

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe we're getting Primaris Terminators.

Funny enough I would approve that.

Probably nothing more than wishful thinking, but the termy on the KT elites cover art towers over the primaris, and has both flared kneepads of an intercessor and the same arms-in-vaguely-the-right-place as new abaddon.

I think the Kill Team covers are somewhat exempt from the “GW art should only show representations of models exactly as sold”, as the White Scar captain on the cover of Commanders isn’t an actual model either:

Is it just me, or do the front 3 suffer from Leifeldian "akwardly attach gun to any normal fist" syndrome?

Having had a chance to look at the GAMA Trade Show schedule, the two Tuesday updates will occur an hour after an 'Existing Retailers - Increase Games Workshop Product Sales' seminar while the Wednesday update occurs an hour after the game demos for the manufacturers' latest products. Maybe there is a clue to what to expect in each update.

"'Existing Retailers - Increase Games Workshop Product Sales'"

You sure there isn't an "or else!!!" at the end of that?

If the vid of the Kill Team expansion is to believed then you can take Wraithblades/Wraithguard now with Eldar. I'm in.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
If the vid of the Kill Team expansion is to believed then you can take Wraithblades/Wraithguard now with Eldar. I'm in.

It's an expansion so typically those involve consent (whether in theory or in practice) but I don't see any reason why you would doubt it given the title.

fresus wrote:
I hope KT: Elites will come with very strong limitations on the amount of elite minis you can take.

And they said every faction will get something. But what could Harlequins possibly get? The Death Jester is a commander. So that leaves Skyweavers (unlikely as we haven't seen any bike so far) or the Solitaire, which seems a bit over the top.
I suppose there's actually a decent change Harlies won't get any Elite unit, but still that makes me wonder.

I'm anticipating harlies to get passed over. I honestly would like to see the solitaire and would be happy with just strategy cards.

those halflings are among the best sculpt GW has put out in a whille. So characterful

 godswildcard wrote:
The more I look at that terminator, the more different it looks from the current terminators. Particularly the knees. They have a bit of a lip over the knee part that reminds me more of Intercessors than terminators. Also, the flat part above the head is more flat than the current terminators.

Maybe I'm reading to much into it, but it seems odd that this guy would share some design elements with the Intercessors given GW's recent(ish) obsession with artwork that accurately reflects their product line...

Space Marine Heroes 2 ;-) ... The Imperial Fist has some Ornates that normally belong to the Blood Angels if you go for the round mini shields (without blood drops) on the shoulders. We dont have Imperial Fist Indominus Terminator Front Parts right now so i think with the Heroes 2 Release coming maybe they beef them up and bring them in a Fists Box with that one Terminator leading a Kill Team ;-)

Well, as long as this opens the way for new plastic Aspect Warriors I'll be happy (pleasepleaseplease)

 Albertorius wrote:
Well, as long as this opens the way for new plastic Aspect Warriors I'll be happy (pleasepleaseplease)

Agreed. Use this elites expansion to add a couple new plastic kits. Striking Scorpions, Kommandos, Ratlings could all fit right in.

For 40K I'm really hoping that Eldar are GW's next big project. They've got so many resin models in their range at very high prices it would be a crime not to advance them into plastics - esp after the great model they made for Blackstone.

 Overread wrote:
For 40K I'm really hoping that Eldar are GW's next big project. They've got so many resin models in their range at very high prices it would be a crime not to advance them into plastics - esp after the great model they made for Blackstone.

With the general turmoil in the Imperium, would be cool to see the Eldar regrouping somewhat in the background. Especially since their religion has been challenged. Good excuse to take their time, ala Chaos.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Well, as long as this opens the way for new plastic Aspect Warriors I'll be happy (pleasepleaseplease)

Agreed. Use this elites expansion to add a couple new plastic kits. Striking Scorpions, Kommandos, Ratlings could all fit right in.

So far there's been no new versions of models with these. Just repackages. Doubtful that changes here.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Agreed. Use this elites expansion to add a couple new plastic kits. Striking Scorpions, Kommandos, Ratlings could all fit right in.

So far Kill-Team has made a habit of using existing kits to cut down on production costs. I don't see them using this as a way of releasing Aspect Warriors, Kommandos, Ratlings and other ancient units in plastic.

The last two GSC and Admech sets had unique characters.

I actually think it's quite possible that KT could be used as a medium for single-kit releases. As of late, it's mostly been in "stater" boxes (like Forgebane or the Eldar vs SW one), but they could very well pack a new kit with an existing one, maybe with a terrain sprue and an existing character, in a box sold as a "this is all you need to play faction X in KT".

Yes, but they're regular minis that either have 40K rules or will get them. They weren't made for KT.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yes, but they're regular minis that either have 40K rules or will get them. They weren't made for KT.

But Ratlings, Striking scorpions and Kommandos would also surely get 40k releases?

I think people are suggesting Kill team as a vehicle to release single kits for 40k without doing a big faction update.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yes, but they're regular minis that either have 40K rules or will get them. They weren't made for KT.

We do have the Rogue Trader box, which has all exclusive miniatures, which are obviously more tailored for Kill Team even if they did also receive 40k rules (and I'd expect all Kill Team models to also receive 40k rules, because why not?), so anything is possible, I'd say? They're also releasing all new miniatures for board games like Warhammer Quest and Combat Arena, so who's to say where the next miniatures will pop up? If anything, I'm expecting rather bigger news in the next three GAMA updates than what we've seen so far, so wouldn't be entirely surprised to see a few new Kill Team-"exclusive" miniatures to show up (and I'd expect any such miniatures to also receive a separate non-KT release somewhere in the future).

 Haighus wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yes, but they're regular minis that either have 40K rules or will get them. They weren't made for KT.

But Ratlings, Striking scorpions and Kommandos would also surely get 40k releases?

I think people are suggesting Kill team as a vehicle to release single kits for 40k without doing a big faction update.

Yeah I've been hoping they would use Kill Team as a way of releasing new models for existing factions [or even tasters of new factions like eldar corsairs]. I don't hold out any hope of seeing new eldar models this year- I'd love some new eldar infantry models, especially if they had a Ynnari flavour too - I'd like a little more eldritch/esoteric in the designs. But there hasn't been ny mention of new eldar or even hints in the rumour engine.

 silverstu wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yes, but they're regular minis that either have 40K rules or will get them. They weren't made for KT.

But Ratlings, Striking scorpions and Kommandos would also surely get 40k releases?

I think people are suggesting Kill team as a vehicle to release single kits for 40k without doing a big faction update.

Yeah I've been hoping they would use Kill Team as a way of releasing new models for existing factions [or even tasters of new factions like eldar corsairs]. I don't hold out any hope of seeing new eldar models this year- I'd love some new eldar infantry models, especially if they had a Ynnari flavour too - I'd like a little more eldritch/esoteric in the designs. But there hasn't been ny mention of new eldar or even hints in the rumour engine.

We did see exactly that for Adeptus Mechanicus and Genestealer Cults, though: both models were not in their respective faction's codex when the Kill Team Starter boxes were released (even if the Kellermorph was added to the new Genestealer Cults Codex only a week or so later). So there is precedent for GW releasing new models for factions through Kill Team. Disregarding these because they also got 40k rules is rather arbitrary, as they're releasing 40k rules for basically every "40k" universe and 40k scale model now, even if it comes in a totally different boxed game (same for AOS and Quest/Underworld models). I think the only real exception to that rule is Necromunda, and that's not produced by the main studio, unlike Kill Team.

 Ghaz wrote:

Spoiler:

Having had a chance to look at the GAMA Trade Show schedule, the two Tuesday updates will occur an hour after an 'Existing Retailers - Increase Games Workshop Product Sales' seminar while the Wednesday update occurs an hour after the game demos for the manufacturers' latest products. Maybe there is a clue to what to expect in each update.

Looks like they updated the update times to an hour earlier:

 Redemption wrote:
Looks like they updated the update times to an hour earlier:

It wouldn't surprise me if they failed to take Daylight Saving time into account for the original times

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yes, but they're regular minis that either have 40K rules or will get them. They weren't made for KT.

I don't see how releasing Aspects, ratlings et al would be any different in that regard.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Agreed. Use this elites expansion to add a couple new plastic kits. Striking Scorpions, Kommandos, Ratlings could all fit right in.

So far Kill-Team has made a habit of using existing kits to cut down on production costs. I don't see them using this as a way of releasing Aspect Warriors, Kommandos, Ratlings and other ancient units in plastic.

But let's be honest, its the greatest missed opportunity of the whole Kill Team release. On one hand it gets Kill Team gaming materials in the hands of people that might not otherwise consider it and release kits that aren't necessarily top 40k performers but work better in the skirmish scale... on the other hand it lets GW initially release product at a slightly higher price point that they can either bring down for the non-Kill Team release or just keep when a re-release without the Kill Team material inevitably happens.

Plastic Aspect Warriors would definitely be cool. What I hope is that they re-do the existing Aspect Warriors in plastic, rather than replacing them.

For instance, they might come out with a new praying mantis themed unit of Aspect Warriors that does the same thing as Striking Scorpions but with way better rules and a more coypright-friendly name. Then leave Striking Scorpions in resin and with a pretty dim future. That would make me sad.

(I'm not saying I would be opposed to new types of Aspect Warrior, just that I don't want them to get rid of the old ones.)

I think they'd probably do a kit that had striking scorpions, with a crazy new name, but also include different weapons load outs, with completely new weapon types. So people who already have striking scorpions have to buy new ones. Like with the wraithguard.

More likely they'll just forget about aspect warriors, and any new eldar will be brand new from a brand new sub-faction.