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I mean, it is possible that the guy realized he wasn't getting better sex here, even though he wanted it to be here. Love has a little and a lot to do about sex.


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But, when you want to kill the best sex you have had... fantasy story.

I’m so ready for it to end...

And to think, there are 3 spinoffs in production.

Well, that was certainly quite the episode.

 Gael Knight wrote:
Well, that was certainly quite the episode.

I am wondering how my boy the Right King was worse than her? Thinking the White Walkers werent so bad after all.

Conveniently deranged imho.

 nels1031 wrote:
I’m so ready for it to end...

Yeah, I've had episodes I've been unhappy with, but this made me actively happy the show's ending.

First, gotta say: CLEGANEBOWL WAS EVERYTHING I WANTED. Although those Queensguard guys went down like a bunch of chumps.

That said, oof. What the frak was I supposed to feel during those Cersei scenes? We've got zero reasons to be empathetic towards her. Feth her and the whole "I don't want to die" scene and your said, remorseful music. You can't fool me, Ramin Djawadi.

And what was Arya's purpose supposed to be? She doesn't kill Cersei, but she does get a bunch of innocent people killed, and then wastes five minutes of my life staring at a horse before frakking off into the sunset.

I feel like you can definitely tell it's not Martin's series anymore with Euron. The subversion would have Euron being the only person to get out of there, happy to be a pirate over in Essos.

 infinite_array wrote:

And what was Arya's purpose supposed to be? She doesn't kill Cersei, but she does get a bunch of innocent people killed, and then wastes five minutes of my life staring at a horse before frakking off into the sunset.

I for sure thought that when they did the prolonged side profile of her, after her 12th near death experience, it would pan to see her face half burnt, Clegane-style, which would have been a cruel twist given the final dialogue between those two.

Also, all the hype about the Golden Company and they get rolled...

Jon should have really given his hot Aunt the business and kept her chill.

I honestly don't understand why he's holding back (in the setting).

Wow.
The sensation in my mouth after seeing this was the same I had when I first watched 2 girls 1 cup.

 Gael Knight wrote:
I honestly don't understand why he's holding back (in the setting).

Like Varys and Tyrion talked about, the whole inter-family relationship was really only a Targaryeon thing. Fire & Blood goes into the whole thing where the Targaryeons had to deal with a rebellion from the Faith of the Seven and eventually had to be pronounced as having "special blood" to get around the squicky bits. Westerosi, and especially Northerners, wouldn't go in for that sort of stuff.

 Galas wrote:
Wow.
The sensation in my mouth after seeing this was the same I had when I first watched 2 girls 1 cup.

So are you saying you kind of liked it in a weird unexpected way?

I feel not at all bad about rooting for the Night King, the Right King. I am ok with Wight Priviledge

Oh, and I also like how Euron's fleet could triple-shot a flying dragon while on the move in an ambush, but suddenly bumble-fethed their way around the ballistas when SITTING PERFECTLY STILL IN FINE WEATHER.

They really should have kept Rhaegal alive for this episode, then killed him off in the fleet attack. Prompting crazy Dany.

I guess the books have the explanation but honestly nobody seems to really reject Jaime for his Sister fething so within the context of the show an Aunt you didn't know about seems fine.

 infinite_array wrote:
Oh, and I also like how Euron's fleet could triple-shot a flying dragon while on the move in an ambush, but suddenly bumble-fethed their way around the ballistas when SITTING PERFECTLY STILL IN FINE WEATHER.

Horrible. Them killing the other dragon was such a cheap move after seeing things. Is clear D&D don't know anything anymore and are just for the shock value.

And if Arya ends up killing Daenerys... pfff.


Really. As others have said the only decent thing was the Cleganebowl.

Varys, oh poor varys, at least you won't have to live to see how this ends.

 Gael Knight wrote:

I guess the books have the explanation but honestly nobody seems to really reject Jaime for his Sister fething so within the context of the show an Aunt you didn't know about seems fine.

From the books (Clash of Kings), here's Catelyn Stark's thoughts:

"Bastards were common enough, but incest was a monstrous sin to both old gods and the new, and the children of such wickedness were named abominations in sept and godswood alike. The dragonkings had wed brother to sister, but they were the blood of old Valyria where such practices had been common, and like their dragons the Targaryens answered to neither gods nor men."

So that probably got passed on to Jon.

Is it just me or does it seem like the "good guys" ( I say that because the white walkers were the real good guys) had considerably more troops than it appeared after the heroic Night King attacked winterhell?

My nitpicking and problems with the writing aside, this was a tense episode at times and it kept me guessing.

“Wow, do they really have the balls?” moments for me:

Are they really going to kill Varis just like that?
Is the Golden Company about to switch sides?
Are they going to let Arya die unceremoniously? trampled or crushed or burnt?
Was Grey Worm about to square up on Jon Snow?
Is Euron really going to beat Jamie?
Is The Mountain really going to win?
Will they really escape?

Episode definitely could have been 30-45 minutes total runtime though.

Vibes.

I didn't hate what I saw, but I didn't love it, either.

I was worried that the switch to the Mad Queen would have been too abrupt, and it was a little.. but not as bad as it was last episode, with Vary suddenly deciding she was a giant threat.

Gael Knight wrote:They really should have kept Rhaegal alive for this episode, then killed him off in the fleet attack. Prompting crazy Dany.

That would have definitely felt more organic.

infinite_array wrote:Oh, and I also like how Euron's fleet could triple-shot a flying dragon while on the move in an ambush, but suddenly bumble-fethed their way around the ballistas when SITTING PERFECTLY STILL IN FINE WEATHER.

A mystery for the ages. The scorpions went from something that could potentially kill a dragon but virtually never actually did, to surface-to-air rapid fire homing flak guns, back to unwieldy, slow tacking, inaccurate dragon-killing lotto tickets, once again, all within the span of like 2 episodes. Terrific. They clearly shoot at the speed of plot.

nels1031 wrote:Also, all the hype about the Golden Company and they get rolled...

Another giant, extended setup to a quick wet fart.

Still, it was full of moments, as Gorgon says. Seeing Grey Worm turn into The Terminator was legit pretty cool.

I don't know how I thought Jaime and Cersei were going to die, but the actual events of it felt a little underwhelming. Like, together was OK, but by rocks? Yeesh,

Cleganebowl was about as good as I expected, though. Maybe a little grosser. That's OK though.

 Ouze wrote:
I didn't hate what I saw, but I didn't love it, either.

I was worried that the switch to the Mad Queen would have been too abrupt, and it was a little.. but not as bad as it was last episode, with Vary suddenly deciding she was a giant threat.

Gael Knight wrote:They really should have kept Rhaegal alive for this episode, then killed him off in the fleet attack. Prompting crazy Dany.

That would have definitely felt more organic.

infinite_array wrote:Oh, and I also like how Euron's fleet could triple-shot a flying dragon while on the move in an ambush, but suddenly bumble-fethed their way around the ballistas when SITTING PERFECTLY STILL IN FINE WEATHER.

A mystery for the ages. The scorpions went from something that could potentially kill a dragon but virtually never actually did, to surface-to-air rapid fire homing flak guns, back to unwieldy, slow tacking, inaccurate dragon-killing lotto tickets, once again, all within the span of like 2 episodes. Terrific. They clearly shoot at the speed of plot.

nels1031 wrote:Also, all the hype about the Golden Company and they get rolled...

Another giant, extended setup to a quick wet fart.

Still, it was full of moments, as Gorgon says. Seeing Grey Worm turn into The Terminator was legit pretty cool.

I don't know how I thought Jaime and Cersei were going to die, but the actual events of it felt a little underwhelming. Like, together was OK, but by rocks? Yeesh,

Cleganebowl was about as good as I expected, though. Maybe a little grosser. That's OK though.

oddly enough you can say the "little brother killed her" since he led her to a deathtrap

Yeah, I thought that would have been a little more literal. Bummer.

Killed by falling rocks remains particular lame to me since being disappointed by it in Neverwinter Nights, I guess.

Man, Its like I was right and Dany would become mad the second she faceds oposition.......

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Man, Its like I was right and Dany would become mad the second she faceds oposition.......

Not really, though? She went mad once the opposition stopped. So almost the exact opposite.

So I think most of the issues from s7/s8 stem from D&D wanting to rush through content and making the mistake of cutting some major characters from the book as well as D&D being fearful of more fantastical elements from the books.

Book related spoilers


As far as the episode goes I think this is likely where GRRM planned to head, but with better pacing and a deeper background. I for one and am glad it's gone full dark because that circles back to where GoT started.

They wheren't joking. They were warning us.

That was just, really disappointing.

So after reading D&D as Dungeons and Dragons for all this time finally rocks and fell and everyone died...

Why does anyone in GoT land bother building fortifications just to stand in front of them?

I think this is the first time in a long time that said fortifications could only become ovens and /or gigantic mortar & pestles.

I did lol at the lady closing the storm windows. That should cover it.