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 Ratius wrote:
Looks like a new spray can too? "Wraith Bone?"

And it appears to have some link to the Contrast paints. Maybe it has some sort of surface tension that better enables the shade/layer/highlight effect? I am curious how it interacts with their current paint range.

These also look very reminiscent of the new Nighthaunt paints. I cannot wait to see how those behave on this new primer.


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deano2099 wrote:
It’s a specific primer for Contrast. That’s what most people are missing here- you have to use that undercoat to get the effect. Presumably it has a specific property that helps provide that highlight effect by repelling paint from raised surfaces.

Read my mind, lol.

deano2099 wrote:
It’s a specific primer for Contrast. That’s what most people are missing here- you have to use that undercoat to get the effect. Presumably it has a specific property that helps provide that highlight effect by repelling paint from raised surfaces.

I mean, it's entirely possible it's just glossy, or very very satin, in which case a blast of varnish after a regular undercoat will have a similar effect.

They've not made mention that it requires a specific undercoat spray - the new sprays could just be new subtle colour blends for use.


Also I wonder what, if any, effect the different undercoats would have on regular paints.

Interesting.

From the Heralds of War Twitter feed:


All done using just the Contrast stuff apparently. From the sounds of it, the spray is a pure white color rather than the off-white that Corax is, and it's less prone to 'roughing' than Corax can be with temperature/humidity.

Bad Dice Podcast:


He commented that it took him 5 minutes and the colors are pretty fast drying.

 Kanluwen wrote:
From the Heralds of War Twitter feed:

Spoiler:

All done using just the Contrast stuff apparently. From the sounds of it, the spray is a pure white color rather than the off-white that Corax is, and it's less prone to 'roughing' than Corax can be with temperature/humidity.

Bad Dice Podcast:

Spoiler:

He commented that it took him 5 minutes and the colors are pretty fast drying.

Damn. That gold looks amazing. If they want all my money, though, give me the ancient gold for the Black Legion trim in one of those Contrast colors. I will literally stab someone to get my hands on that.

The other spray is Grey Seer the small bottles are varnish 1 is ardcoat the other I can't see the name of its something shield

from Garro's facebook

Wash painting isn't exactly revolutionary, but it will be interesting to see if this can add something new to the method.

 DaveC wrote:

Spoiler:

The other spray is Grey Seer the small bottles are varnish 1 is ardcoat the other I can't see the name of its something shield

from Garro's facebook

Spoiler:

Good catch! Looks like the other Technical paint is called Stormshield. I'm guessing it's a matte or satin varnish?

 DaveC wrote:
I can't see the name of its something shield

Stormshield, most likely.

Garro on Facebook posted a lot of pictures of models painted with the Contrast range
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Garro30k/photos/

Some interesting picks that show how it looks on larger models and fleshtones:

Looks like they’re a wee bit blotchy on larger areas. But, given what you achieve with a single coat, shouldn’t be too hard to tidy it up once dried.

I am impressed. They obviously look a tad rough, but this is an easy way to get a decent tabletop ready army quickly, or a solid starting point for doing more advanced stuff.

Next thing you know, they’ll announce something like ‘we painted all of these yesterday’ while pointing to the cabinet ‘just to see if we could.’

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Looks like they’re a wee bit blotchy on larger areas. But, given what you achieve with a single coat, shouldn’t be too hard to tidy it up once dried.

IT might also be that they more heavily painted to get that blotchy effect as well; giving quick texture to open clear areas of the model. Might not look as good on vehicles, but on living creatures I can see it being a major boon.

Looking at some of those capes, I think these might be the new way I paint robes, capes, and tabards. I’ve got enough time invested in my armies that I’m not going to switch gears. No way will the color match be specific to how I’ve been doing things. But for accents, I’d love these for finicky things like blending up fabrics to look halfway decent.

Interested in the stormsheild technical paint. I don’t seal my minis, so am a little worried about decals rubbing off. If I could just slap a layer of that over the area, and not have it look different then the rest of the mini, I’d gladly add that as a final step to my process.

I haven't seen anything done up in straight black, anyone seen any yet?

If it looks nice, my Stygies Skitarii are going to get a hell of a lot fancier quick.

 Irbis wrote:

 kodos wrote:
So nothing new but they bring their own old colours

You were able to do the exact same thing with the old Washes before (which were identical to the Army Painter ones) and with the much older Inks (but with a glossy look).

Juhuh nothing changes but we got some nice videos

 kodos wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I'll wait a few months until the non-union, Vallejo equivalent comes out

Army Painter is the same (as are some others) so no need to wait you could have already orderd them months ago....

Denial is pretty strong here, eh?

lack of memory too it seems

Citadel Washes, before GW replaced them with Shades were meant to do the same thing as Contrast, but with a limited colour range

This was the reason why Vallejo and Army Painter came up with coloured Washes (instead of Black and Brown) in the first place.

Original GW picture for Wash over White Primer in 2011


There was also the Tutorial for different Orc Skin using different combinations, like 1 layer pure Green for Grots, 2 layers Green for Boys, 1 layer Purple + 1 layer Green for Nobz/Boss while you can still see old Box images were Orc Skin is just a layer of Green Wash


Nothing new but just e revamp of an old product that was replaced by something different and 3rd party products filled the gap




Big difference is now that we get finally a non-pure white Primer from GW and a wider range of colours than in the past.
But nothing new a ground breaking

Results look pretty average to me. If I had to get a bunch of clanrats or guardsmen done I might use these, but otherwise nah.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I haven't seen anything done up in straight black, anyone seen any yet?

If it looks nice, my Stygies Skitarii are going to get a hell of a lot fancier quick.

You mean the Black Templar paint? Only seen this one so far, besides the one in the big paint rack.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I haven't seen anything done up in straight black, anyone seen any yet?

There's the couple of guys in the top right of the rainbow marine pic, but they're a bit blurry.

Interesting to note that they appear to be just using grey and yellow in place of metallics.

WITCHCRAFT!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome. I'm very interested. I wonder if this is why they've been using Mechanicus Standard Grey so much lately in the tutorials as basecoats?

https://twitter.com/AstartesIneptus/status/1127195061907861505
Genestealer Cult army painted with contrast according to the wee sign.

 insaniak wrote:

Interesting to note that they appear to be just using grey and yellow in place of metallics.

I don't think that these sort of paints could work as metallic.

 Yodhrin wrote:

deano2099 wrote:
It’s a specific primer for Contrast. That’s what most people are missing here- you have to use that undercoat to get the effect. Presumably it has a specific property that helps provide that highlight effect by repelling paint from raised surfaces.

I mean, it's entirely possible it's just glossy, or very very satin, in which case a blast of varnish after a regular undercoat will have a similar effect.

Im at Warhammer Fest now. The contrast paints do look excellent, reception is very positive, you can use them with standard paints to create good blending effects as well. There are two ‘contrast specific’ primers, one white, one grey (looks much the same as unpainted plastic), which is designed to work with the contrast paints and give the best result, but you can use any undercoat you like, it will still work pretty well.

 Crimson wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

Interesting to note that they appear to be just using grey and yellow in place of metallics.

I don't think that these sort of paints could work as metallic.

It would be interesting to see how they worked over a silver basecoat. I guess the big question is how dependent they are on the new basecoats. If you lay them down over any base, a lot more options open up.

 Crimson wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

Interesting to note that they appear to be just using grey and yellow in place of metallics.

I don't think that these sort of paints could work as metallic.

old Washes worked good if mixed with Mithril Silver or over a light Silver base, so no reason why it should be different


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 Irbis wrote:

Please show one AP paint that dries differently in the recesses, never mind doing the highlight thing and pretty nice gradients.

took me awhile to find it, but here are some old models I painted years ago
Only Army Painter Washes over White Primer were used (except for metal that got a silver base coat and the haqqislam bases which were try brashed)

Will work fine on organic models, and a good tool to have but

Looks terrible on flat surfaces. Space marines are not the type of model you should be painting like this.

I could see smashing out some scenery that i would be very happy with with this stuff

Paints seem interesting. I'll give 'em a go.