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I got my free Grognards sprue but I'm getting the feeling feedback is not all that appreciated?

 BrookM wrote:
I got my free Grognards sprue but I'm getting the feeling feedback is not all that appreciated?

Is this addressed to me? My post was aiming for snarky banter, not actual hostility. Please do post your feedback.


Anyway, my free frog adds (grognards) arrived as well. The torsos and legs look really good. Since the free sprue did not include the heads I wanted to use, I will use Dreamforge peaked cap heads or WGF heads to make commissars and/or officers. The arms seem very limited, however, and the weapons aren’t great. The Raumjager guns were better, but the arm poses were just as limited. Not sure if I should use DFG arms, WGF arms, or try to fit a Shieldwolf Bolter and sword onto the grognard arms.

I’m sold enough on the quality to buy at least one box for not-guard minis.

Could someone post a pic of the Grognards next to some GW Cadians or other normal humans?

 BrookM wrote:
I got my free Grognards sprue but I'm getting the feeling feedback is not all that appreciated?

please post your thoughts, they are very much welcome!

 Crimson wrote:
Could someone post a pic of the Grognards next to some GW Cadians or other normal humans?

If you can wait until Fri/ Sat?


As for the figures themselves, I certainly can't complain as I received them for free.

They are built,negative heads due to not having the Imperial Guard style headgear.

Three leg and torso options could end up being a limiting factor but as an avid Praetorian IG collector, I'm not in a position to complain about repeat poses!

Will I buy more? I'm tempted to buy a box to add to the six I have and would hopefully have enough Bearskin heads (mask and non-mask) to kit out those first figures. I'm certainly not averse to the idea of having a set, the only factors counting against a purchase are time to build and paint and space to keep more models above the Sisters I'm planning on buying..

Here's a potato quality size comparison between a Grognard, Cadian and a Forge World Solar Auxilia trooper:



Slightly shorter and slimmer than a Cadian and most other ranges out there.

The models are okay. Nothing world shattering or special, they very much remind me of the first wave of Bolt Action infantry plastics: decent. For me personally it's just an odd mish-mash of different styles of uniform and armour that don't go together well. There is also a lack of poses if you buy these in bulk, as the kit comes with three bodies and three sets of rifle arms. Grenade lobbing arms cannot be combined with the rifle arms either, not without cutting and clipping, which is something of a missed opportunity.

The thing I like the least on the sprue though are the special weapon and pistol designs, they are uninspired, bland, generic. That said, it does come with enough arms for every option included, so bulk build friendly. Also, keep the bayonets away from kids and people who pick up models at odd angles, they are quite sharp.

Favourite bits on sprue are the pistol holster (can never have enough of those), the sheathed sabre and the portable radio.

Thank you, BrookM! The size difference is not insane, but probably makes mixing them with GW bits nonviable, which lessens the usability of these models for me.

 Crimson wrote:
Thank you, BrookM! The size difference is not insane, but probably makes mixing them with GW bits nonviable, which lessens the usability of these models for me.

Might as well try blutaking them. I found sticking cadian lasgun arms on some historical kits nets good results

fyi the digital sculptor that WA uses (ex GW, also Victrix) has been making the sci-fi infantry kits to be fully compatible with Cadians. PeteTheWargamer who made the Raumjager/Cadian conversion video is working on a Grognard/Cadian video.

I was very disappointed that the sample sprue only include ones type of head, which wasn't clear when I requested it. The bodies and arms look good. As mentioned, I really dislike that you can't have a guy with a rifle throwing a grenade. There are plenty of options for non-rifle guys (several different special weapons, sword/pistol, grenade throwing arms) but it seems like all your rifle guys will look exactly the same. There are a few little extras like pouches and grenades to hang on people. The weapon designs I don't really like much.

I'm not sure if I should find heads somewhere to try to make these into commissars or something for my guard army, since they'll look different than my existing greatcoat guys. But there's only one set of pistol/sword arms. Maybe call them corporals and give them rifles and put on in each heavy weapon team or something. I don't know. I'd like to get them put together and painted and see how they look, I'm just not sure yet what do do with them.

Another odd design choice is with regards to the sword and pistol: both are held by a right arm, so you can't have both on the same model without some converting or using a hand from somewhere else.

 BrookM wrote:
Another odd design choice is with regards to the sword and pistol: both are held by a right arm, so you can't have both on the same model without some converting or using a hand from somewhere else.

Shoot, I hadn't noticed that. I guess I just assumed they would be opposites so you could use both on the same guy of you wanted.

I wonder how these guys would look with spare arms/weapons from the adeptus mechanicus infantry.

Maybe I'll give that a try tomorrow, I got loads of spare Skitarii bits and right now the sergeant mini I've done with a sword and pointing hand just doesn't look right to me, might as well pop those arms off and just experiment with that one.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:

I'm not sure if I should find heads somewhere to try to make these into commissars or something for my guard army, since they'll look different than my existing greatcoat guys. But there's only one set of pistol/sword arms. Maybe call them corporals and give them rifles and put on in each heavy weapon team or something. I don't know. I'd like to get them put together and painted and see how they look, I'm just not sure yet what do do with them.

How many heads do you need? I'm going to be using the bodies for my Imperial Navy project (3rd party heads) so I'll have extras for whatever type you're looking for.

More teasers from Facebook:

What can be made from a sprue of dark age Irish, with parts leftover.

Bizarre choice to make a promotional picture without cleaning your miniatures (huge bits of sprue-gates everywhere). Still, nice enough looking kit for those playing the period.

 Elbows wrote:
Bizarre choice to make a promotional picture without cleaning your miniatures (huge bits of sprue-gates everywhere). Still, nice enough looking kit for those playing the period.

To be perfectly honest I think they just wanted to show off how they look. More of a "ooh the test Sprues are in" rather than "definitely box art photo time."

Sure, but...why not take the extra five minutes to clean them up? Just an odd choice. This is all feedback for whoever is running this outfit. Take the extra time.

Really nice looking kit!

 lord marcus wrote:
This is what one box of skeleton warriors, less 1 skeleton, plus one spare horse, will net you. The shields are a mix of what comes in the box and extras I had from historicals.

Spoiler:

Images put in spoilers due to size

How big are they? Thinking I might pick some up for the elder Scrolls game that's coming out in March but the Modiphius stuff is usually much closer to 32mm

Jamie Shred wrote:

 lord marcus wrote:
This is what one box of skeleton warriors, less 1 skeleton, plus one spare horse, will net you. The shields are a mix of what comes in the box and extras I had from historicals.

Spoiler:

Images put in spoilers due to size

How big are they? Thinking I might pick some up for the elder Scrolls game that's coming out in March but the Modiphius stuff is usually much closer to 32mm

they would fit in fine. they are 28mm with relatively heroic proportions

Great cheers Lord Marcus

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I was very disappointed that the sample sprue only include ones type of head, which wasn't clear when I requested it.

Oddly, WA asked if they wanted both sprues, to which WSS reply was to only send the single sprue, as dealing with two would be too difficult logistically.

Jamie Shred wrote:
Great cheers Lord Marcus

sure thing.

 Dr Mathias wrote:

 Albino Squirrel wrote:

I'm not sure if I should find heads somewhere to try to make these into commissars or something for my guard army, since they'll look different than my existing greatcoat guys. But there's only one set of pistol/sword arms. Maybe call them corporals and give them rifles and put on in each heavy weapon team or something. I don't know. I'd like to get them put together and painted and see how they look, I'm just not sure yet what do do with them.

How many heads do you need? I'm going to be using the bodies for my Imperial Navy project (3rd party heads) so I'll have extras for whatever type you're looking for.

Well, I only really need three to assemble the guys on the sample sprue I got. I was interested in either the bearskin hats, or the shakos with the big feather plumes (to lead either my regular infantry squads or my heavy weapons squads, I'm not sure which I'd most likely use them for yet). Preferably without the gasmasks. If you'd be willing to send me your spares I'd be grateful, and can trade you any of the extra stuff I end up with off my sample grognards sprue if you need another one of some of the weapons on there or something. Not sure what else I'd have that you might be interested in.

I recieved a free review sprues of Wargames Atlantic's upcoming Dark Age era Irish today.

The sprue comes with parts to build 6 warriors, and 2 hounds. Based on the estimates stated by Wargames Atlantic here on Facebook, a full box should come to 30/10, for an overall 40 Miniatures.

The sprue is absolutely packed with options, and I am particularly excited with having already thought up possible uses for the cloaks and some of the buckler sized shields.

Pose variety is good. My one criticism of the kit is I prefer both arms to be separate from the torso, but these already have torso and left arm as one. Personally I feel having both arms separate allows for a wider variety of poses, but I guess with a saw nothing's impossible.

The shield types differ, but to be honest the clothing and wargear these gents are armed with lends themselves to possible uses from early ancients to the middle of the period the were designed for in the dark ages. I could easily see these with shield swaps from other kits being used as pictish warbands or even just generic Celtic tribesmen.

However,my personal favorite part of the kit is the dogs. While uses in wargaming are relatively limited, thier including highlights Wargames Atlantic's attention to fine detail and added value. From a new company I see that as a very good thing.

Dark Age irish https://imgur.com/gallery/RabjLsD

A teaser for the next death fields release has been posted on the Facebook group.

Dress uniform Guard?

They've done German and French guard, so British?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
They've done German and French guard, so British?

Not praetorians in plastic would probably do well, given that all the plastic historical offerings for British infantry are way too skinny for 40k use to my knowledge.

It could be mordians/praetorians hybrid, all they have to do is include two different kinds of heads, which they seem more than capable of. Sword looks decent, here's hoping they fix the special weapons