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Danny76 wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The chance to win free stuff?

Yeah but surely you can find something to vote for in any of the other days to get your entry..

Sorry, came off more snarky than intended.
My gripe was, in each of the previous rounds there were kits that I love the idea of and seriously would buy. This round there were kits I like and may buy depending on final results.
I guess I was just spoiled in the previous rounds and giving a little push-back.
Overall, I'm really stoked for this whole process and am eagerly awaiting each round.

 Orlanth wrote:

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:

Edit: Would not buy Cyberpunk corporate security, as I have some from a Cyberpunk boardgame (some of them have been primed for Stargrave).

Did you buy HINT?

No, but close. The expansion and stand-alone game Human Interface: Be a Better Human. There are some nice sculpts in the set, although there is a glaring size difference in the power armor enforcers. (1st one is too small, 2nd is about right for a normal sized man in bulky power armor). Some of the punks have also been primed since a Stargrave crew needs hackers and crackers.

PourSpelur wrote:

Danny76 wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The chance to win free stuff?

Yeah but surely you can find something to vote for in any of the other days to get your entry..

Sorry, came off more snarky than intended.
My gripe was, in each of the previous rounds there were kits that I love the idea of and seriously would buy. This round there were kits I like and may buy depending on final results.
I guess I was just spoiled in the previous rounds and giving a little push-back.
Overall, I'm really stoked for this whole process and am eagerly awaiting each round.

Indeed.
I’m hoping rounds 3&4 have a lot of the kits I expected or heard several are voting for in them.
Ones that are definitely more of my interest.

I think as I’ve enjoyed this process, if something wins that I’ve put a vote in for at any point, then I shall buy it to support the system. And because I’ll hopefully like what came out.

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:

Edit: Would not buy Cyberpunk corporate security, as I have some from a Cyberpunk boardgame (some of them have been primed for Stargrave).

Did you buy HINT?

No, but close. The expansion and stand-alone game Human Interface: Be a Better Human. There are some nice sculpts in the set, although there is a glaring size difference in the power armor enforcers. (1st one is too small, 2nd is about right for a normal sized man in bulky power armor). Some of the punks have also been primed since a Stargrave crew needs hackers and crackers.

I got both and extra resin/metal models fopr the expansion. The cheap plastic is ok, and good for a boardgame but the upgraded minis are key to getting the most from the set. HINT has now become a staple for those who want a Cyberpunk miniatures collection and has left its boardgame roots behind. The game frankly wasnt very good anyway, the original game map components were shoddy, and the writing was pedestrian and lacked the style that is is so necessary for the genre. Miniatures were great, I bought pretty much everything except the overpriced flyer. Zero regrets.

Four sci fi kits or so in round 3/4.
Few other good bits too for me..

Much better selection this time, (for me)
Happily vote for modular robots and buy more than I actually should.
Getting worried that I haven't seen the SciFi Maori with bionics yet. That is another kit I'll get too many of for no reason besides being cool.

Anything ScI fi winning it I would get extra for Stargrave.

But many other things of potential interest.

Pirate themed era stuff would have got me extras too, but I don’t think I saw any of that kind of thing..

Low-key feeling like most unusual options from previous rounds got removed

Peasants, monks/cultists and robots, plus army builder dark age generics.

C'mon guys post link if there' sa new one
https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/heat-2-round-number-3-of-4

Monks, Martians and Robots for me.

Peasants would be a vote if there weren't already 2 easy sources of plastic medieval peasants...

I hope the WW2 Italians made it to #4, would be a shame if they were out already. I'd do unspeakable things for plastic WW2 Italian infantry...

Definitie vote for Russian WW1 infantry.

Still at a loss about the NATO/Warsaw Pact kit. I mean:



You would have to make a really diverse kit to cover all of the above and more.

Yeah, I mean the "Nato/Warsaw Pact kit" sounds like the classic cheat to the question "You can only buy/build/paint one more plastic kit for the rest of your life, what do you choose?" sort of like the "You are stuck on a remote island, you can only eat one food, what is it?" and you choose Christmas/Thanksgiving dinner so that you can eat bits of it every day and have something different

A wee bit cheeky if you ask me!

Heat 2, round 3 I voted:
Medieval European Peasants/Townspeople
Modular Robots

Voted for
Ming Chinese
Les Grognard Cavalry
VSF (Victorian Science Fiction) Martians
Modular Robots
Polish Winged Hussars

The Polish Winged Hussars finally show. Still no Apemen, Death Fields Necromantic Cyborgs, or Cataphracts, but we've one round left. They probably did not make it, and the Space Bears are probably a no go too. [Maybe if the Space Bears had been defined as 60s Soviet Cosmonaut bears, they'd have done better.]

I would buy Polish Winged Hussars, but I didn’t vote for them. That’s the kind of kit that is inevitable, and if it wins WA will likely end up releasing just as Fireforge or Gripping Beast release their kit. Meanwhile, the last chance for a kit that isn’t “popular European history thing that warhammers” slips by.

Were'nt apemen in round 2 part 1?

I think those were cavemen/Neanderthals.

Seems like a lot of the fun ideas didn’t make it.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Were'nt apemen in round 2 part 1?

That was Neanderthals/Cavemen. Now since this is Gallahad's entry, if you look back at his concept art, he wants more ape in the mix, more "missing link."

re: Cataphracts. Looks like Fireforge is finally getting around to them. And 3d printed Chi Rho shields are in the works too.
https://fireforge-games.com/byzantines/696-byzantine-cataphracts.html

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Were'nt apemen in round 2 part 1?

No, unfortunately Apemen didn't make it through.

You should all be voting for Polish Winged Hussars. All of you.

I would buy Polish Winged Hussars, but I didn’t vote for them. That’s the kind of kit that is inevitable, and if it wins WA will likely end up releasing just as Fireforge or Gripping Beast release their kit.

Are either of them working on plastic Hussars? Winged Hussars are far outside the timeframe that Gripping Beast is covering with their product range, so I don't see that happening (beyond the fact that Gripping Beasts plastics range is tiny and growing at a snails pace). Likewise, Fireforge does not have a "Pike & Shotte" era product range, they actually skip that period entirely, jumping from "Late Medieval" (War of the Roses/100 Years War) straight to Napoleonic, and none of the kits they offer in either of those eras are actually produced by them (they only resell Perry kits), on top of also being really slow to release new kits. The kickstarter they are currently fulfilling is for Byzantine plastics, their next kickstarter is for plastic dwarves, I don't see them releasing Hussars anytime soon.

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
Thought that was early Romano-Briton myself. The Chi Rho was not exclusive to Byzantium. With "Dark Age" Saxons and Vikings plastic kits available (mainly the latter), a plastic kit for Romano-Britons would be a good entry in historicals.

The Vikings arrived in Britain well after the Romano-Britons had disappeared and the Saxons that fought the Romano-Britons looked quite different to the ones that fought the Vikings centuries later.


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chaos0xomega wrote:
Panzer Lehr are distinct enough to warrant a kit IMO, those minis can pull double duty with some conversion work as 40k guard or as any number of alt-history/weird ww2 style troops due to their variation from the typical german uniform, etc. and they aren't a unit that is already covered in plastic by 3 different manufacturers.

The only noticeable variation is a different jacket. And not all of them even wore it.

What is the interest in Winged Hussars? Weren't the back things with feathers just a parade kind of thing? Creating too much drag to actually use in battle, etc.

Why are so many people so eager for them? I just don't get it.

 Gallahad wrote:
What is the interest in Winged Hussars? Weren't the back things with feathers just a parade kind of thing? Creating too much drag to actually use in battle, etc.

Why are so many people so eager for them? I just don't get it.

Because they look cool. Same way that historical figures in other time frames are in full dress or parade armor as opposed to greatcoats or a plain hauberk. Otherwise, if people actually modelled historical armies "realistically" they'd not look so flash.

 Gallahad wrote:
What is the interest in Winged Hussars? Weren't the back things with feathers just a parade kind of thing? Creating too much drag to actually use in battle, etc.

Why are so many people so eager for them? I just don't get it.

I want them mostly for my empire mishmash army. Where the back wing(s) will fit in fine in a fantasy setting whether they were actually used in battle or not. Plus… I think they look cool.

From an RPG standpoint. I can use them in my pathfinder Midgard game, as Zobeck has winged hussars…

Or my home brew game… the wings provide a protection from missiles effect so the winged hussars are devastating when charging mundane enemy ranger units…

But I mostly want them because it’s a cool looking unit.

 Gallahad wrote:
What is the interest in Winged Hussars? Weren't the back things with feathers just a parade kind of thing? Creating too much drag to actually use in battle, etc.

Why are so many people so eager for them? I just don't get it.

They look cool and they’re useful for Kislev armies.

A friend just remarked that Hussars are "baby's first History Channel crush" although I think he gives too much credit to History Channel, it may be a fair point that they're just an easily recognizable unit for casuals to latch on to. Polish gamers get a pass of course.

 Gallahad wrote:
What is the interest in Winged Hussars? Weren't the back things with feathers just a parade kind of thing? Creating too much drag to actually use in battle, etc.

Why are so many people so eager for them? I just don't get it.

The feathery things were worn in battle though they weren't necessarily useful.

The minis are also really useful for a wide variety of things, not just historical games but they are great conversion fodder for fantasy/alt-history projects like Sludge and Turnip, as well as any game that involves cavalry/knights (if you're looking for a less traditional looking knight that is).

That and the look cool as hell.

A friend just remarked that Hussars are "baby's first History Channel crush" although I think he gives too much credit to History Channel, it may be a fair point that they're just an easily recognizable unit for casuals to latch on to. Polish gamers get a pass of course.

Hard disagree. Western medieval knights and roman centurions/legionnaires are babys first History Channel crush, followed by Landsknechts. I'm far from a casual and only really came to love the winged hussars recently, most casuals (aside from perhaps Poles and eastern europeans) in the west probably don't realize that winged hussars existed as they aren't something often featured or discussed (at least as far as the US is concerned).

The easiest answer is there's probably something cool about a heavily armoured knight with wings on his back, three swords and a lance, wearing a Leopard pelt.

By the way... just saw Ogre Landsknechts STLs in this KS

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/joygamesinteractive/the-holy-roman-empire