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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 10:13:56
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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A modular chariot kit or two could be amazing.
There are Celtic chariots on the market in plastic but the minis that come with them are fairly dreadful in terms of detail -- I don't recall the maker but I do have a set.
Dragon Rampant has chariot rules (which is what I bought them for) but of course they could count-as heavy cavalry in other fantasy or historical games.
I'd like to see a focus in the chariot kits on different options for the chariots themselves, rather than helmets, except when a given culture has a special charioteer helmet (e.g. Roman gladiators), given that most buyers will also doubtless have spare helmets from their infantry purchases for the same army.
I seem to recall that chariots could use two, three, or four horses, depending on culture and usage... so some option for that would be neat too!
I'd definitely buy a box of universal chariots if it's manageable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 12:01:23
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Universal chariots would probably be pretty hard to make, but a few basic designs could go a very long way. Especially if you then include some options like an extended yoke to put extra horses there or differently shaped parts of it. But I don't know how much work that would be.
Crewmen aren't that difficult under most circumstances. I could see a basic crew and otherwise you can just put infantry figures on and it might even be something for the extra 3D printed parts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 13:24:47
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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2nd Lieutenant
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Ian Sturrock wrote:A modular chariot kit or two could be amazing.
There are Celtic chariots on the market in plastic but the minis that come with them are fairly dreadful in terms of detail -- I don't recall the maker but I do have a set.
Victrix make some currently, and I have never heard of their miniatures described as lacking detail, and I have some of their dark age range that are excellent. That said I believe Wargames Factory used to have some as well, and those looked a bit bleak, perhaps those are the ones you have.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 16:33:42
Subject: Re:Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Nimble Skeleton Charioteer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 16:41:18
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Deathfields cavalry? I like the horse head armor. Necromancer's scythe is way too big for her to lift with one hand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 17:13:16
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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The scythe is just bad. Is it an axe? A tool? A magical staff? It’s inelegant. The sword, though, is ace.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 17:42:06
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Knight of the Inner Circle
Belair North, MD USA
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It's interesting, but I think I was under the impression that the 3D/ Digital part would be for items to modify the Wargames Atlantic sets. Not whole models in and of themselves. I mean, that's cool, but there are a lot of those out there. But having 3D parts tailored to sets you produce is what would have interested me. Like heads and weapons sets that are sized for your haflings...
Like female heads with the hafling helmet and pig tails... yeah, I would buy that, so I could make a unit of femmy halflings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 17:54:02
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Do you have to join a patreon or other subscription for this? Interest in the specific figures put aside, nothing cools my enthusiasm for stl or prints more than the publisher requiring patreon instead of just selling stuff directly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 18:04:53
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Nimble Skeleton Charioteer
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Smokestack wrote:It's interesting, but I think I was under the impression that the 3D/ Digital part would be for items to modify the Wargames Atlantic sets. Not whole models in and of themselves. I mean, that's cool, but there are a lot of those out there. But having 3D parts tailored to sets you produce is what would have interested me. Like heads and weapons sets that are sized for your haflings...
Like female heads with the hafling helmet and pig tails... yeah, I would buy that, so I could make a unit of femmy halflings.
This is just a taste of what's coming this month. You may or may not (I can't confirm - remember, this is a tease) plenty of parts available for conversions of our regular plastics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 18:05:06
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Foxy Wildborne
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Smokestack wrote:It's interesting, but I think I was under the impression that the 3D/ Digital part would be for items to modify the Wargames Atlantic sets. Not whole models in and of themselves. I mean, that's cool, but there are a lot of those out there. But having 3D parts tailored to sets you produce is what would have interested me. Like heads and weapons sets that are sized for your haflings... Like female heads with the hafling helmet and pig tails... yeah, I would buy that, so I could make a unit of femmy halflings. 1 Necromancer compliments a regiment box of Skeletons The Grognard cavalry almost certainly fits on WGA plastic horses, that's why the horses are blacked out in the render, they're not included with the files.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 18:05:27
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Nimble Skeleton Charioteer
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privateer4hire wrote:Do you have to join a patreon or other subscription for this? Interest in the specific figures put aside, nothing cools my enthusiasm for stl or prints more than the publisher requiring patreon instead of just selling stuff directly
This information will be announced in a forthcoming update. Automatically Appended Next Post: lord_blackfang wrote:
1 Necromancer compliments a regiment box of Skeletons
The Grognard cavalry almost certainly fits on WGA plastic horses, that's why the horses are blacked out in the render, they're not included with the files.
You are correct on the grognards. That is a blacked out render of the plastic horses currently available. Automatically Appended Next Post: BobtheInquisitor wrote:The scythe is just bad. Is it an axe? A tool? A magical staff? It’s inelegant. The sword, though, is ace.
Thank you. I will forward your comments to the design team
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 18:09:33
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Dakka Veteran
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I deeply, deeply hope that the cavalry won't be for 3D printing but will be an actual set. I could use quite a few of them for my Guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 18:16:15
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Knight of the Inner Circle
Belair North, MD USA
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lord_blackfang wrote: Smokestack wrote:It's interesting, but I think I was under the impression that the 3D/ Digital part would be for items to modify the Wargames Atlantic sets. Not whole models in and of themselves. I mean, that's cool, but there are a lot of those out there. But having 3D parts tailored to sets you produce is what would have interested me. Like heads and weapons sets that are sized for your haflings...
Like female heads with the hafling helmet and pig tails... yeah, I would buy that, so I could make a unit of femmy halflings.
1 Necromancer compliments a regiment box of Skeletons
The Grognard cavalry almost certainly fits on WGA plastic horses, that's why the horses are blacked out in the render, they're not included with the files.
I agree on the Grognards. The extra heads shown is what I was expecting...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 18:21:50
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Nimble Skeleton Charioteer
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Smokestack wrote: lord_blackfang wrote: Smokestack wrote:It's interesting, but I think I was under the impression that the 3D/ Digital part would be for items to modify the Wargames Atlantic sets. Not whole models in and of themselves. I mean, that's cool, but there are a lot of those out there. But having 3D parts tailored to sets you produce is what would have interested me. Like heads and weapons sets that are sized for your haflings...
Like female heads with the hafling helmet and pig tails... yeah, I would buy that, so I could make a unit of femmy halflings.
1 Necromancer compliments a regiment box of Skeletons
The Grognard cavalry almost certainly fits on WGA plastic horses, that's why the horses are blacked out in the render, they're not included with the files.
I agree on the Grognards. The extra heads shown is what I was expecting...
Plenty more heads, arms, etc to potentially be announced later. Automatically Appended Next Post: Dolnikan wrote:I deeply, deeply hope that the cavalry won't be for 3D printing but will be an actual set. I could use quite a few of them for my Guard.
What is to say these could not be a 3D conversion set and then if they do well be released in hard plastic later?
Grognard raptor cavalry are currently on the plastics release schedule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 22:18:08
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Brigadier General
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:The scythe is just bad. Is it an axe? A tool? A magical staff? It’s inelegant. The sword, though, is ace.
Sword is ok, but it could be downsized and streamlined a bit to fit the size, style and stature of the minaiture. Too big and the pose is odd.
Great first draft though. Will be interesting to see WGA develop it's own characters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 22:30:20
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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If you are making DIY charactermodels, make sure they have at least one variant head. Raging Heroes has been selling fantasy and Sci-fi character models with variant heads and arms. For the necromancer, I suggest a crowned head like the Evil Queen in Disney's Sleeping Beauty with an arrogant sneer if possible. Also a head with beehive hairdo (or whatever the style in the link is called). Basically something aristocratic so she could be a vampire necromancer.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-enbve4JHlQY/TkmAS0_cTeI/AAAAAAAAEjw/HtDVXfwZWBA/s1600/Pic%2B3.jpg
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/02 22:41:36
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Nimble Skeleton Charioteer
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Ancestral Hamster wrote:
If you are making DIY charactermodels, make sure they have at least one variant head. Raging Heroes has been selling fantasy and Sci-fi character models with variant heads and arms. For the necromancer, I suggest a crowned head like the Evil Queen in Disney's Sleeping Beauty with an arrogant sneer if possible. Also a head with beehive hairdo (or whatever the style in the link is called). Basically something aristocratic so she could be a vampire necromancer.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-enbve4JHlQY/TkmAS0_cTeI/AAAAAAAAEjw/HtDVXfwZWBA/s1600/Pic%2B3.jpg
I appreciate the reference material, and ideas, and will forward them to the sculpting team.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 00:46:33
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Eilif wrote: BobtheInquisitor wrote:The scythe is just bad. Is it an axe? A tool? A magical staff? It’s inelegant. The sword, though, is ace.
Sword is ok, but it could be downsized and streamlined a bit to fit the size, style and stature of the minaiture. Too big and the pose is odd.
Great first draft though. Will be interesting to see WGA develop it's own characters.
I like big swords and I cannot lie.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 01:22:44
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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Regarding the Necromancer, I'm liking the piece a lot. The sword arm, casting arm, and book holding arm are excellent. Not a fan of the enormous scythe-thingie or the flamey-skull book.
I would definitely buy this if printed by McDougall Designs or someplace similar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 01:32:43
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Regular Dakkanaut
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If you're looking into print files, I think terrain/vehicles/whatever specifically aimed at filament printers might be good.
As someone with an entry level PLA printer there's a dearth of organised prints that are optimised for filament printers. Plenty of free stuff but it all needs tweaking and mucking around with slicer settings to get right.
Stuff like generic fantasy/sci buildings printed in simple parts, with built in minimal in-fill so printers aren't spitting out a rock-solid rugged plastic item, when all they need is a strong-enough shell of a building for wargaming terrain. I'd happily pay $20 for a bundle of a 4 or 5 medium sized scifi/fantasy buildings and some scatter terrain if it were optimised for filament printing.
Those grognard cavalry are glorious! Part of me wishes they were also fantasy compatible somehow.... How about some cuirassiers style helmets? I hope they come with separate stowed laser rifles/pistols which could be used across other kits too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 05:48:50
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Cuirassier neo-classical helmets with Grognard gas masks would be awesome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 08:47:16
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Foxy Wildborne
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RustyNumber wrote:If you're looking into print files, I think terrain/vehicles/whatever specifically aimed at filament printers might be good. As someone with an entry level PLA printer there's a dearth of organised prints that are optimised for filament printers. Plenty of free stuff but it all needs tweaking and mucking around with slicer settings to get right. Stuff like generic fantasy/sci buildings printed in simple parts, with built in minimal in-fill so printers aren't spitting out a rock-solid rugged plastic item, when all they need is a strong-enough shell of a building for wargaming terrain. I'd happily pay $20 for a bundle of a 4 or 5 medium sized scifi/fantasy buildings and some scatter terrain if it were optimised for filament printing. Those grognard cavalry are glorious! Part of me wishes they were also fantasy compatible somehow.... How about some cuirassiers style helmets? I hope they come with separate stowed laser rifles/pistols which could be used across other kits too. The time of mainstream PLA has been and gone, there's plenty of quality commercial files. Check out Forbidden Prints on MMF for example.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 09:59:53
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Seems a bit drastic of a view. I'm sure there's a large audience like me who has started with filament over resin for a whole bunch of reasons. Thanks for the artist suggestion though, looks exactly like what I wanted!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 10:57:05
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Dakka Veteran
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RustyNumber wrote:
Seems a bit drastic of a view. I'm sure there's a large audience like me who has started with filament over resin for a whole bunch of reasons. Thanks for the artist suggestion though, looks exactly like what I wanted!
I agree. I'm planning to get a filament printer because resin isn't an option with the way I live because of fumes and ventilation issues.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 11:28:23
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It took Guts to say that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 12:24:20
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Dolnikan wrote: RustyNumber wrote:
Seems a bit drastic of a view. I'm sure there's a large audience like me who has started with filament over resin for a whole bunch of reasons. Thanks for the artist suggestion though, looks exactly like what I wanted!
I agree. I'm planning to get a filament printer because resin isn't an option with the way I live because of fumes and ventilation issues.
Likewise, I happily have a filament printer churning out loads of terrain, but for the minis, it's making a lot more sense to purchase them from someone with a resin print farm rather than having to turn a room of my house resemble something out of Breaking Bad.
Prices from print farms are rapidly decreasing with more competition as well, there are minis I was looking at a year ago that are now for sale for half the price from a different printer, it has been extremely easy money for a long time, but a lot of people have now figured that out.
As an example, this store sells warmaster units as low as £4/unit in a bundle, last year you wouldn't find anyone selling them for under £10/unit: https://www.rokminis.com/shop
With the pricing at that level, I can just buy rather than print. I think newer generations of resin printers have made it easier for people as well, larger build volumes, faster print times, better quality etc.
STL conversion parts will probably work out really well for buyers, as long as commercial licenses are issued so that they're not impossible to acquire, most people still do not have a resin printer, you're looking at 1-5% of active gamers with ownership of a printer of any sort.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 12:48:04
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Brigadier General
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The rapid price drops I've observed have me very satisfied purchasing resin figures.
PLA is just not good enough for minis and there's only the occasional large Terrain or vehicle that I can't find as a plastic kit or toybash myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 15:34:24
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Battlefield Tourist
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Regarding First Empires and Chariot Wars, the three big hitters are New Kingdom Egyptians, Assyrians, and Myceneans/Iliad Greeks.
That said, if you are just focusing on expanding the Egyptian line you would want to have Sherden/Sea Peoples (hand weapon armed infantry), Libyan/Nubians (Archers mostly), and light chariots in addition to the two boxes you have.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 16:53:15
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Nimble Skeleton Charioteer
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Another preview for our upcoming Atlantic Digital launch...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/03 16:57:12
Subject: Wargames Atlantic: News and rumors
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Deadly Tomb Guard
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Dolnikan wrote: RustyNumber wrote:
Seems a bit drastic of a view. I'm sure there's a large audience like me who has started with filament over resin for a whole bunch of reasons. Thanks for the artist suggestion though, looks exactly like what I wanted!
I agree. I'm planning to get a filament printer because resin isn't an option with the way I live because of fumes and ventilation issues.
Hi there. 3D printing farm owner.
Don't do that, please.
All 3D printers, including FDM machines, give off VOCS (Volatile organic compounds) that are carcinogenic. FDM printers do this simply by the process of melting the PLA/Pteg, etc. 3D printers are small-scale industrial machines and safety measures should be taken accordingly.
For your saftey, see if you can make (at least) a basic vented enclosure for any machine you use, and wear proper safety equipment.
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