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I could see myself buying a dreadnought or daemon engine for up to $35 each month. I just bought a trio of venomcrawler for $28ea.

10 basic infantry for the same. $45 for really nice ones or jump pack. $45 for 5 terminators WITH ALL THE WEAPON OPTIONS.

I am disappointed in myself for getting a keeper of secrets for 120 as an exception because it's so cool. Not happening often.

I already never buy retail lol.

 Insectum7 wrote:
Speaking of. . . I just found out that the Repulsor Executioner is $100 US.

Not that I was planning on getting one, but daaaaaammmn.

Oof that's probably gonna be 110 Canadian if I'm lucky. I don't think a sprue swap justifies the price

 fraser1191 wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:
Speaking of. . . I just found out that the Repulsor Executioner is $100 US.

Not that I was planning on getting one, but daaaaaammmn.

Oof that's probably gonna be 110 Canadian if I'm lucky. I don't think a sprue swap justifies the price

Try 120 CAD.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Space-Marines-Primaris-Repulsor-Executioner-2019

What would I not pay for a model?

List price anytime in the last 2 - 5 years. After that it varies. I'll never buy a Necron Tesseract: it's always been ridiculously priced. Centrepiece models much the same. I did buy some horrors at list last month, but that was a present. Conquest prices are bearable, but even that is a significant total investment.

The new BSF commisar and ogryn for traitor guard / R&H.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:
Speaking of. . . I just found out that the Repulsor Executioner is $100 US.

Not that I was planning on getting one, but daaaaaammmn.

Oof that's probably gonna be 110 Canadian if I'm lucky. I don't think a sprue swap justifies the price

Try 120 CAD.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Space-Marines-Primaris-Repulsor-Executioner-2019

165 AUD its nearing half a switch here !
I think they are pushing that line. If they asking that kinda money, they really need to up there design i feel. Since that is mostly what is being payed for.

Yeah, GW finally priced me out back when they kicked in their regional sales rules. I've bought a handful of models from eBay since then, and a couple when I was in the UK earlier this year, but I have no interest in paying GW's Oz prices.

Interesting topic! This is a tricky one. I've lived away from the UK for a while, so while my individual orders are often on the grander side, as I try to buy a lot infrequently, to save on postage...

...honestly, I'm pretty tight fisted.

For a single infantry character mini, I don't think I'd ever be willing to go much over £25 (tbh I don't like when it's over £10, but I will shill, esp for pretty FW stuff because I'm a chump). And I don't think I've ever spent over £55 on a single kit - ie: tank etc.
I foolishly put off grabbing a £50 start collecting admech box, in case I got a windfall of hobby cash, and not only are the prices bumped up in the UK now, they're 100 quid out here. And the new Admech transport is about £70 here, too, so...

...not picking that up this side of Eurasia.
I wouldn't rule out spending more on larger models - Imperial Knights, Baneblades, bundles, FW stuff etc. But the thought of over £50 on a single box transaction does make me feel a tad silly. With the impending hike, I'm doing some very real soul-searching (though in the meantime I've got plenty of backlog to get through! )

I can remember every step of the way this hobby seemed expensive, and each year I look back and wish I could get my models at the previous price. If somebody had told 30 years ago what the prices would be today I'd never have got into this hobby at all.

 Huron black heart wrote:
I can remember every step of the way this hobby seemed expensive, and each year I look back and wish I could get my models at the previous price. If somebody had told 30 years ago what the prices would be today I'd never have got into this hobby at all.

I remember the 20 man box for guardsmen.

Also the new neophytes 46chf for 50 pts.....

Seriously, I (and many other members here) was warning you all about this for 2 years now. GW never left the "old" GW behind... They were falling into the exact same traps they did last time that outright nearly killed their company.
Step 1: Say you're new and here is a bunch of cool stuff to hook you in! (Things are looking up, the models seem fair priced and the rules are working).
Step 2: Start testing the waters for weaknesses in players spending through countless books and small price increases. We're making records profits so we might as well charge more while we can. (all is still good though, there are some sweet deals and the new codex stuff is coming out. Sure CA will fix the balance)
Step 3: Start making more and more mistakes in you books and then charge people for balance every year. Throw in some meme videos to make yourselves look friendly... profits are still high so let's increase the price of those paints and stuff. (Hmm, this is getting a little concerning).
Step 4: Okay, reports are just in. People are spending like crazy so let's do it! Let's just increase the price of models that are older than most out fans! Just like we did last time! Where's Matt Ward? Bring him back! Make him CEO! Muahahhaaaaaaaaa
"Sir, haven't your ever heard of scale of production?" "SHUT UP! MORE £40 ULTRAMARINE HEROES! DO IT!"

The major problem is that I won't be paying for these new prices as there is so much new stuff out these days that I have alternatives to GW now. I love the modern age!

 Huron black heart wrote:
I can remember every step of the way this hobby seemed expensive, and each year I look back and wish I could get my models at the previous price. If somebody had told 30 years ago what the prices would be today I'd never have got into this hobby at all.

Same

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:
Speaking of. . . I just found out that the Repulsor Executioner is $100 US.

Not that I was planning on getting one, but daaaaaammmn.

Oof that's probably gonna be 110 Canadian if I'm lucky. I don't think a sprue swap justifies the price

Try 120 CAD.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Space-Marines-Primaris-Repulsor-Executioner-2019

Ouch! Welp they did it they're making me wait and weigh my options with other kits

I decided against buying the new Sister of Battle character last weekend at $40 for a single model. If it was $30, I might have picked it up and I definitely would have at $25.

 Asmodai wrote:
I decided against buying the new Sister of Battle character last weekend at $40 for a single model. If it was $30, I might have picked it up and I definitely would have at $25.

plenty of counts as sisters models available online and you can have them printed or print yourself for pennies on the $ for GW models. and a resin printer can do every bit the same detail. I have not started printing a sisters army yet but once the codex comes out I already have a ton of files to get cranking once I know what I want.

As prices go up, I start to get pickier about the model. Does it look cool? Is it competitive? How many points per dollar am I getting? Am I going to have to ebay spare bits for competitive/matching loadouts? Is it going to be fun to assemble and paint? Are there alternate models that are a better price/aesthetic? How many of these are available on ebay? I won't pay $50 for a box of 10 Fire Warriors because GW included parts for Breachers which I will never use so 2nd hand is the way to go. A Commander costs the same, but I can use almost every bit in the box and most of the 2nd hand ones have bad loadouts plastic glue welded on. There's also a lot more fire warriors on ebay.

They should stop pricing based on what the model does in the game and do it by the size of the model and advertisement costs etc etc.

Generally, $5 per Infantry model is my limit, and $50 per 'bigger' model. I won't pay more than $100 for any single model unless it's Forgeworld.

It's easier for me to look at cost per model as an average than the cost of a specific purchase. I like to keep that average low and manage it over time.

For instance, I just bought 2 of the Apoc CSM sets off Ebay. The average cost per model is $3.90 and that figures into whatever I might buy next. I also want more Havocs who have an average cost per model of about $10.

The average cost per model for the CSM Boxes + Havocs works out to about $4.60, which is high enough to get me thinking. I could buy the Havocs without breaking my rule, but I'd rather get a better deal since Chaos Knights are coming out. Could mean I wait for an Ebay coupon for an extra 15% off, could mean I sell something to offset the cost, could mean I convert some of the new CSMs to count as Havocs, could mean I stick with my 2nd Edition Havocs and return to this in a year.

Dunno what I'll do. But 40k is a hobby where financial management is as important as any other skill in the game.

That point is already past for me. If I buy something it's almost always from ebay at a heavy discount.

I wont pay $30 for characters. Hell I wouldn't pay $15 unless it was a highly detailed nice looking substantial model. I'll convert or go without.

I won't pay $70+ for the dinky flyers they have. Maybe 30. These are probably their most egregiously priced kits next to characters.

$50 for an infantry box is too much. Any more than $3 per model is way too much

They already priced me out and lost my sales. I bought some box deals from them when I first came back for 8th, but most of my army has come second hand buying off other local players or ebay. Only thing I purchase straight from GW anymore is books, and even then I'll use battlescribe if I can get away with it. I don't buy chapter approved or supplement books for example

The two Blackstone Fortress expansions are the first kits I'm not buying because of the pricetag.
I paint slowly, and therefore don't buy many kits. A lot less than what I could afford in any case, so the price isn't an issue in itself.

It's really the comparison between the kits that bothers me. A primaris character is almost the same price as a Necromunda gang. A single pose character vs 10 guys (2 times 5) with some options, and of exactly the same quality, it doesn't make any sense.
Likewise, the old kits are very expensive for what they are, especially relative to the competition. Overall, GW's recent plastic is a premium product, high quality and high price. But their 10+ years old kits have absolutely nothing on the competition (we might be in love with some classic 40K aesthetics, but in terms of details/casting, the age shows), while still being priced way above the rest.

So I don't mind the price of something like a Necro gang or other recent kits in the same price range/quality (I have some Arkanaut Company which are pretty good too), but 30+€ infantry characters, or 50€ for two small guys and some cardboard (the upcoming BSF expansion) is just insane. Seriously, 50€ gets you the Underworlds starter kit, or two warbands.

I broke down and bought the new SoB model, but normally those 40 CAD models are a hard pass for me. ESPECIALLY when I can convert a Primaris hero model fairly trivially from other Primaris Marines.

120 CAD Space Marine tanks? Pass. 90 CAD Admech tank/transport? Passing on it for now as Admech is shelved for other projects, maybe in the future. The vast majority of my GW purchases these days are discounted bundles from online retailers with 15% off.

I'm sad to admit that I've all but stopped buying form my LGS too, which already sold GW product at a discount (usually 20%).
Part of the reason is that I have to drive there to place an order, then make another trip to pick it up and it's not the closest store to me, even though it's my favorite.

I'll try to make small purchases now and then to support the store (WDs, Paints, etc) but for models, I pretty much stick with eBay now-a-days.
My boys and I are pretty much at a "stopping point" for the most part. They each have 1500pts of Marines and I've got over 3000pts of Eldar, 1500pts of Necrons and a varied collection of Marines and Chaos Marines.
So we aren't likely to spend much on 40K in the next year or so at least

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I've been priced out of the non-combo box purchases since tactical marines went from $30 (too high) to $35 (fnope) per 10. The old LOTR price trick pissed me off, too.

Nowadays I still acquire GW minis and bits, but mostly as trades or at fire sale prices (10 new Delves for $12, box of assault termies for $20). I suppose I'll buy some plastic sisters or plastic Aspect Warriors, but I can probably wait for a good price on eBay.

In the mean time, there are plenty of not-GW options out there.



Hmmm...The last time I walked into a GW store was to panic buy some WHFB novels after they blew up the Old World.

I think that's what prompted the move to Primaris Marines, because I have my gigantic SM and CSM armies, and I doubt I'll buy more of those. Likewise my Orks and Tyranids are big enough, and I don't see the point in expanding my Astra Militarum. I mean, I'll pick up various things like Grots and Bloodletters as stuff I've wanted to own, but I need to paint and play with what I have before I buy more.

They've already priced me out. I simply won't buy a new model from GW and have not for years now as I see them as overpriced. I've bought models second hand from eBay and from discount stores like Triple Helix Games.

I'm told I am cheap but I personally, considering what they are (time to design, volume sold, detail etc etc) these to be fair prices, roughly for what i'd pay new...

- Non space marine infantry, basic (guardsmen, guardians, gants) - £0.60 - £0.80 a model.
- Space marine sized infantry (ork boyz, tactical marines, primaris) - £0.85 - £1 a model.
- HQs/Characters at standard size - no more than £10 - £12
- Larger HQ's/Characters/Drednaughts (Abaddon, Ghaz, Gull) - £15 - £18
- small vehicles (bikes, sentinels, speeder bikes) - £5 - £6 a model
- medium vehicles (rhinos, predators, lemon russes) - £15 - £20 a model
- larger tanks/monsters (land raiders, new floaty ones, battlewagons, greater daemons etc) - £25 - £30
- Most lords of war - £50ish

SO really, where their prices were about 10/15 years ago would be fair today imho.

Certainly not 100 USD for a tank that solves zero marine problems

I think £60 for a single main Tank is starting to push it a bit.(Repulsor Executioner)

Some of the recent mono character kits are also too expensive in my opinion.

I've stopped buying new models almost entirely. I cannot keep up with their release schedule.

With this price increase and the price of the new kits, I'm sadly mostly priced out now. The value is no longer there. At these price points I'd rather spend my money on other things that interest me. This is so unfortunate, I honestly thought that this day would never come. I am deeply saddened by this.

I will not spend $100.00 for a Repulsor or $75.00 for a Skorpius. I will not spend the new MSRP on nearly all of their product.

What amuses/bugs me though, and has for some years now is the completely inconsistent nature of GW's pricing. While some people try to defend the price increases etc. with "oh it's the market for plastic..." etc, GW continues to churn out large box sets which are actually a completely reasonable deal. The highlight of this for me was the HH boxed sets.

Betrayal at Calth
$150
-3x 10-man Tactical Squad
-1x 5-Man Terminator Squad
-2x Character Models
-1x Dreadnought (Admittedly a gak one, but a dreadnought nonetheless)

The price of those after being split into boxes (and hit with a heavy HH "premium" cost): $330.00

Burning of Prospero
$150
-3x 10-Man Tactical Squad
-1x 5-Man Terminator Squad
-2x Character Models
-1x 5-Man Custodes Squad
-1x 5-Man Sisters of Silence Squad

The price after being split into boxes (assuming $50 in a similar vein for the characters which are not available): $360.00

At the boxed set price, the value was very reasonable, I'd even argue good. I would have even considered paying MSRP (though I didn't, in fact I paid $108 per box which made it even more ridiculously good). But split up, the prices become almost laughable. $60 for five "okay" plastic terminators? That's getting up there to almost insulting pricing. At the time I remember remarking how amusing it was that you could get four monopose plastic characters for the same price as one of these boxes, which could serve as a damn near starting army.

$150 for a starter army, or about $40 for most single figures nowdays....that's laughable. It's this inconsistency which bugs me.