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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Lost it so hard he’s got a trilogy to himself.



Again, according to him. We've not heard anything from Lucasfilm on the matter since the announcement in 2017, and since then the slate has had a major shakeup. I have no doubt Kennedy still wants RJ to play a big role in Star Wars I just sincerely hope Disney won't let her give it to him.

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I also struggled through the opening of Rebels but it really paid off.

In other news it seems that enough people are still into SW for Disney to build their next hotel in the form of an in universe cruiser;
https://wdwnt.com/2019/08/concept-art-official-name-revealed-for-star-wars-galactic-starcruiser-hotel-at-disneys-hollywood-studios/?fbclid=IwAR23QdqZfre8ZNEDYptD0sJcooKMuAdT-UwvA7DVMdWFh0rALBgImeVaAlM
Murder mystery style tours in a SW immersive hotel, all for the low low cost of everything you own and can borrow!

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Luton, UK

 Yodhrin wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Lost it so hard he’s got a trilogy to himself.



Again, according to him. We've not heard anything from Lucasfilm on the matter since the announcement in 2017.


Yeah, it was obviously just so much marketing hype for TLJ - "This new film is so good we're going to give the man who wrote and directed it about $2bn for his own trilogy". I've absolutely no doubt that any such plans, if they were ever serious anyway, have been firmly shelved. Lucasfilm/Disney need to try to get the fractured SW fanbase pulling in the same direction again (episode 9 is likely a lost cause already so consider it a free hit) and letting Rian "I love making movies that 50% of the audience hate" Johnson have any more creative input isn't going to help that.

Edit: I'm excited for the Mandalorian, though I'm waiting to see if I can add it to my pruned canonical view of the Star Wars saga:

The Clone Wars (I get that it's a bit weird having the series without the movies that bookend it but man I never want to watch either again)
Catalyst/Tarkin/A New Dawn/Thrawn series (not sure the exact chronology of these)
Solo
Rebels
Rogue One
A New Hope
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi

And that's it. When I was writing that list I honestly forgot Solo was even a thing, but on balance it's not bad exactly, just a bit meh.

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Disney announce RJ is making a trilogy for them.

Single source claims he’s been dropped.

RJ confirms it’s still moving ahead.

Therefore.....RJ has definitely been dumped?

K.

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Honestly, as much as I disliked TLJ. I would watch a Rian Johnson trilogy. Or at least the first entry in one. I think a lot the problems in TLJ came from it being a baton pass of sorts. I put as much blame on Abrams mystery boxes as I do on Johnsons "subverting expectations". If he is in full control of the story direction from start to finish, there is a chance he could put out something really cool.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Disney announce RJ is making a trilogy for them.

Single source claims he’s been dropped.

RJ confirms it’s still moving ahead.

Therefore.....RJ has definitely been dumped?

K.


No.

Lucasfilm announce RJ is making a trilogy for them.

Iger makes no specific mention of it in post-TLJ interviews/articles.

Kennedy never mentions it again after the initial announcement, even when discussing an upcoming story meeting at which RJ was meant to(and afaik did) attend with her, the Story Group, and Benioff & Weiss.

Licensing revenue continues to nosedive.

Big shakeup of the film slate occurs, only one new trilogy is presently confirmed to be in development.

One source claims that trilogy isn't RJs.

RJ says he's still working on his.

Now as I said, I have no doubt Kennedy and RJ are still lobbying hard for him to be involved in Star Wars, but given everything that's been happening I don't really consider RJ himself making comments during an interview about a different non-Star Wars project he's working on to be a definitive source in the way you appear to. I'll save my disappointment for when we get an actual press release announcing the project is in production, in the meantime I'd rather remain hopeful that the pretentious twonk has been sidelined or shown the door entirely.

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But why would he lie?

As a Director, if he’s not working on it, he’s just announced to the world he’s not available for work for the next what, six or seven years?

And nobody has called him out. Not Disney. Not Lucasfilm.

What’s in it for him? If he’s not in fact working, he’s not getting paid. But because he apparently is, no further work will come his way.

Ergo, his trilogy remains a go.

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Disney has proven more than willing to jettison directors who don't tow the line. If Johnson is going to step out and announce his trilogy is a go then he has to already have some support from the studio - frankly even if it already was on and Disney was just insisting on keeping quiet about it to let Rise step out of TLJ's shadow, they would have stomped down on him, hard, but they didn't even do that.

It all hinges on this presumption that Disney has adopted some kind of siege mentality over it, but they've basically been true to form for the last four releases, answering softball questions with generic 'it's such an honour to be here' responses and teaser trailers.

Speaking of:

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Calling it now - Rey with double-bladed red lightsaber is one of 2 possibilities:
A) Just a vision. Boring
B) or more interesting, Palpatine "possessing" her.

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Might I suggest:

C) A clone. The 'successful' result, of which Rey is one of countless rejects.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
But why would he lie?


Because he has no idea if he's doing it (I expect certain people at Disney won't return his calls now), he really wants to do it, and and by talking publicly about it wants to box Lucasfilm into a corner. Unfortunately there are only about 3 people in the world who fit into a venn-diagram crossover of 'SW fan' and 'pro-Rian' so the groundswell of public support he's expecting is clearly not going to materialise.


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 Captain Joystick wrote:
Might I suggest:

C) A clone. The 'successful' result, of which Rey is one of countless rejects.
I like that option better than the "vision" option, but less than the "possession" option.
If Palps was going to make a clone, why would it be female?

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Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

Reyy will fight Rey?

And man... that's a lot of Star Destroyers. Hooray for B-Wings though.

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 Captain Joystick wrote:
Might I suggest:

C) A clone. The 'successful' result, of which Rey is one of countless rejects.


Oooh. That's a good one. All of them cloned from Luke's hand, explains the saber connection.


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 Galef wrote:

If Palps was going to make a clone, why would it be female?
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“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.” 
   
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 Riquende wrote:
 Captain Joystick wrote:
Might I suggest:

C) A clone. The 'successful' result, of which Rey is one of countless rejects.


Oooh. That's a good one. All of them cloned from Luke's hand, explains the saber connection.


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 Galef wrote:

If Palps was going to make a clone, why would it be female?
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All I am saying is that if the premise for the Reyy clone is A) that the DNA is from Luke's Hand, or really either of the main Skywalkers so far and/or B) the clone is intended to be a new vessel for Palpatine, what is the point (in universe) for said clone(s) to be female?
Both powerful Skywalkers and Palpatine are male. It's a logic jump that has to be explained.

But given a small canon reference to "Skywalkers" amoung the Chiss people (Thrawn's race) being mostly female, I could see that route. Maybe that gender has a particular connection to the Force that hasn't fully been explored, as the Force is generated by life, and most dimorphic species propagate life through females

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I think you misread my meaning. I was being smutty.

“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.” 
   
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Wow there hitting the nostalgia button hard in that trailer you would almost think trying to pretend the original movies don't exist was a bad idea.

This has the hallmark's for being the biggest train wreck in history. I mean we seem to have flipped from all the original fans are mewling woman hating troglodytes that need to feth off and die far away from our new movies. To please come see our movie it is linked to the originals and has the emparah and double bladed light Sabres and we got rid of Jar Jar finn and the non jedi super warrior with no training might go Sith and just look at all the fan service please come buy a ticket.

Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis 
   
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 Galef wrote:
I like that option better than the "vision" option, but less than the "possession" option.
If Palps was going to make a clone, why would it be female?


Questions like that always remind me that M. Bison cultivated an army of fighters to use one as a new permanent body - and they were all 16 year old girls.

As for a real answer, perhaps there really is some Shmi Skywalker connection? IIRC Palpatine's talking about Plaegus using midichlorians to create life was all the EU needed to conclude he was really Anakin's father, but I don't know how much of that has been retained. If that's no longer the case, we're back to wondering about Shmi, a force sensitive so powerful she wished a sentient being into existence.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Reyy will fight Rey?

And man... that's a lot of Star Destroyers. Hooray for B-Wings though.




Did my eyesight fail me, or were those Imperial class Star Destroyers?

Curious...
   
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 Chillreaper wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Reyy will fight Rey?

And man... that's a lot of Star Destroyers. Hooray for B-Wings though.




Did my eyesight fail me, or were those Imperial class Star Destroyers?

Curious...


Yeah, I ran it in slow-mo, I can't tell if the a-wings are the new or old model, and the b-wings I can't really tell, but the y-wings definitely look like greebly OT y-wings and the Star destroyers all have the distinct ISD1 array.

Edit: it's really foggy, but I think some of the background ones have ISD2 towers, and there's one in the back on the middle-left that seems to be a different hull entirely.

No interdictors though :(

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So, I have a theory on the "Evil Sith Rey" - I wonder if it's like Luke's vision on the cave on Dagobah, where he faces Vader, and sees his own face behind the helmet?
Some kind of "face yourself/your greatest fear (ie turning to the dark side?)" kind of thing?

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Dallas area, TX

 Captain Joystick wrote:
 Galef wrote:
I like that option better than the "vision" option, but less than the "possession" option.
If Palps was going to make a clone, why would it be female?


Questions like that always remind me that M. Bison cultivated an army of fighters to use one as a new permanent body - and they were all 16 year old girls.

As for a real answer, perhaps there really is some Shmi Skywalker connection? IIRC Palpatine's talking about Plaegus using midichlorians to create life was all the EU needed to conclude he was really Anakin's father, but I don't know how much of that has been retained. If that's no longer the case, we're back to wondering about Shmi, a force sensitive so powerful she wished a sentient being into existence.
There is a Canon Darth Vader comic that implies (or outright says?) that Palpatine did indeed use the force to put Anakin in Shmi. Essentially making Palpatine Anakin's father.

 Dark Apostle 666 wrote:
So, I have a theory on the "Evil Sith Rey" - I wonder if it's like Luke's vision on the cave on Dagobah, where he faces Vader, and sees his own face behind the helmet?
Some kind of "face yourself/your greatest fear (ie turning to the dark side?)" kind of thing?
Yeah, that's the "vision" option I mentioned above. it could be neat if they do it right, but I really hope this isn't it. They've already done it with Luke and Rey has already had her "cave" experience in TLJ

If they do this in RoS, every single Sequel Trilogy movie will have shown a "vision", so I hope they don't go this route

And besides, that lightsaber is a bit too specific for just a vision. Gotta think of those toy sales

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 Captain Joystick wrote:
 Chillreaper wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Reyy will fight Rey?

And man... that's a lot of Star Destroyers. Hooray for B-Wings though.




Did my eyesight fail me, or were those Imperial class Star Destroyers?

Curious...


Yeah, I ran it in slow-mo, I can't tell if the a-wings are the new or old model, and the b-wings I can't really tell, but the y-wings definitely look like greebly OT y-wings and the Star destroyers all have the distinct ISD1 array.

Edit: it's really foggy, but I think some of the background ones have ISD2 towers, and there's one in the back on the middle-left that seems to be a different hull entirely.

No interdictors though :(



So, if they are ISD1s and 2s, there are three possibilities that spring to mind:

1) The bad guys are hard up and have to dig them out. They weren't exactly hard up at the end of Episode 8, though.

2) The good guys are in possession of the remains of the Imperial fleet and this is the cavalry here to save the day. Can't imagine that there were too many ISD1s left by the end of the Galactic Civil War.

3) Time travel.
   
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 Chillreaper wrote:
2) The good guys are in possession of the remains of the Imperial fleet and this is the cavalry here to save the day. Can't imagine that there were too many ISD1s left by the end of the Galactic Civil War.


In current canon there is a faction of Imperial Remnant we haven't seen I the movies yet, the faction that formally surrendered and still holds territory in the inner rim - they notably include imperial fleet elements that didn't get the First Order invite and are hiding out somewhere called the Queluhan Nebula.

Not sure what happened to them in the intervening 30 years, but maybe there's a link there?

   
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 Chillreaper wrote:

3) Time travel.


Oh god no
   
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balmong7 wrote:
 Chillreaper wrote:

3) Time travel.


Oh god no


Yes, this must never be spoken of again.

Spoiler:
what if they time travel in Rey is really Shmi?

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I'm not going to dignify that with a gif of Matt Smith's the Doctor screaming 'Noooo'.

Can we talk about evil-eyes 3P0? Is Creepio canon at last?

   
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 Captain Joystick wrote:
Can we talk about evil-eyes 3P0? Is Creepio canon at last?
"Creepio"?!?!? That's amazing. good job! And he gets a gun in this one too.

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 Galef wrote:
 Captain Joystick wrote:
Can we talk about evil-eyes 3P0? Is Creepio canon at last?
"Creepio"?!?!? That's amazing. good job! And he gets a gun in this one too.


Of course he does. He's a solitary warrior scientist of great courage.

   
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 Galef wrote:
 Captain Joystick wrote:
Can we talk about evil-eyes 3P0? Is Creepio canon at last?
"Creepio"?!?!? That's amazing. good job! And he gets a gun in this one too.

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You mean they're ripping off C3PX wholesale?



Also, 'Creepio' is the name of the character in the Auralnauts reimaging of the saga:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSCm8yAxBr8&list=PLINl9l0igYjzIipxsD4Y59_Jjxe4N3pZo

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