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We're under 3 weeks from the NOVA preview, wonder if they're keeping something back for that

Mandragola wrote:
Notable that the lieutenant from Shadowspear isn't available, as he's not on his own sprue. I actually douubt we'll see him again.

In general those previews are a disappointment. I'd been expecting rules for another chapter or two. And there are quite a lot of models not yet with a release date. I guess they're spacing them out for some reason.

I'm glad they are spacing things out. Lets the wallet recover

Voss wrote:
The funny thing about the wake the dead lieutenant is its armed exactly like one of the starter set lieutenants. (Sword and pistol, different pose), so having it wandering free in the world doesn't actually increase available options in any way at all.

It does in the sense that it’s now available without having to buy the starter.

Mandragola wrote:
Notable that the lieutenant from Shadowspear isn't available, as he's not on his own sprue. I actually douubt we'll see him again.

In general those previews are a disappointment. I'd been expecting rules for another chapter or two. And there are quite a lot of models not yet with a release date. I guess they're spacing them out for some reason.

Production capacity, almost certainly (keep in mind that warcry would've taken a lot of that capacity with a ne game with 6 entirely new warband sprues, plus terrain plus critters, plus ramping up some production of the other two terrain kits). Also the brand new enforcers were squeezed in here as well. Side order of spacing them out so budgets don't feel too overwhelmed in one go.

Given that they've shown the models off already, I feel fairly certain that the 23rd of August is going to be more marines. It should wrap with the incursors/infiltrators, tank and eliminators. Three kits is manageable.

The Warsuit has a heavy flamer option doesn’t it? Have we not seen what that looks like yet?

Voss wrote:

Mandragola wrote:
Notable that the lieutenant from Shadowspear isn't available, as he's not on his own sprue. I actually douubt we'll see him again.

In general those previews are a disappointment. I'd been expecting rules for another chapter or two. And there are quite a lot of models not yet with a release date. I guess they're spacing them out for some reason.

Production capacity, almost certainly (keep in mind that warcry would've taken a lot of that capacity with a ne game with 6 entirely new warband sprues, plus terrain plus critters, plus ramping up some production of the other two terrain kits). Also the brand new enforcers were squeezed in here as well. Side order of spacing them out so budgets don't feel too overwhelmed in one go.

Given that they've shown the models off already, I feel fairly certain that the 23rd of August is going to be more marines. It should wrap with the incursors/infiltrators, tank and eliminators. Three kits is manageable.

Production issues makes sense for the models but not for the books.

I'm basically just panicking that my Crimson Fists won't have their rules in time for the LGT. But I can just be lazy and take the knights I've already painted in that scenario. Not the end of the world.

 xttz wrote:
We're under 3 weeks from the NOVA preview, wonder if they're keeping something back for that

Dark Angels...something is stirring

 AduroT wrote:
The Warsuit has a heavy flamer option doesn’t it? Have we not seen what that looks like yet?

We have not seen what it looks like yet. And apparently there's more options too!

One of the early shots of it had something that looked like a comms array, so I wonder if the Warsuit will have an Orbital Array too.


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Mandragola wrote:
Notable that the lieutenant from Shadowspear isn't available, as he's not on his own sprue. I actually douubt we'll see him again.

That's actually why I'm curious to know if there's just a "Phobos Lieutenant with Reiver Mask" profile or "Phobos Lieutenant" or just "Lieutenants can take Phobos Armor" options.

A Grav-Chute isn't hard to pack into the sprues. For the Reivers, it's a small bit that is separate to the actual backpack while the Shadowspear Lt had it built into the backpack proper.

 Kanluwen wrote:

That's actually why I'm curious to know if there's just a "Phobos Lieutenant with Reiver Mask" profile or "Phobos Lieutenant" or just "Lieutenants can take Phobos Armor" options.

It is Phobos Lieutenant with options for both Shadowspear gear and new Reiver gear. And if I saw correctly, the Reiver one can't have the grav-chute, making him completely and utterly pointless.

As much as they're hyping the Primaris Lieutenants, they all pretty much suck. The old power sword and pistol combo remains pretty much as the only sensible loadout, and that's nothing to write home about.

 Crimson wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

That's actually why I'm curious to know if there's just a "Phobos Lieutenant with Reiver Mask" profile or "Phobos Lieutenant" or just "Lieutenants can take Phobos Armor" options.

It is Phobos Lieutenant with options for both Shadowspear gear and new Reiver gear. And if I saw correctly, the Reiver one can't have the grav-chute, making him completely and utterly pointless.

As much as they're hyping the Primaris Lieutenants, they all pretty much suck. The old power sword and pistol combo remains pretty much as the only sensible loadout, and that's nothing to write home about.

And now you won't feel bad about replacing his Power Sword with the Burning Blade!

Move over, Orktober. Marines are gonna show you how it's done with Adeptus Astaugust.

 bullyboy wrote:

 xttz wrote:
We're under 3 weeks from the NOVA preview, wonder if they're keeping something back for that

Dark Angels...something is stirring

They’re in White Dwarf, that’s all we know. White Dwarf isn’t even connected to new releases anymore, so it might literally just be an Index Astartes thing for them.

Do we know how many successor traits there are and what they are ?

 xttz wrote:
We're under 3 weeks from the NOVA preview, wonder if they're keeping something back for that

Seems crazy that its barely been a year since all of this stuff https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/30/breaking-previews-and-reveals-from-novagw-homepage-post-1/ was previewed.

 Starfarer wrote:
Move over, Orktober. Marines are gonna show you how it's done with Adeptus Astaugust.

Brilliant.

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Mandragola wrote:

Voss wrote:

Mandragola wrote:
Notable that the lieutenant from Shadowspear isn't available, as he's not on his own sprue. I actually douubt we'll see him again.

In general those previews are a disappointment. I'd been expecting rules for another chapter or two. And there are quite a lot of models not yet with a release date. I guess they're spacing them out for some reason.

Production capacity, almost certainly (keep in mind that warcry would've taken a lot of that capacity with a ne game with 6 entirely new warband sprues, plus terrain plus critters, plus ramping up some production of the other two terrain kits). Also the brand new enforcers were squeezed in here as well. Side order of spacing them out so budgets don't feel too overwhelmed in one go.

Given that they've shown the models off already, I feel fairly certain that the 23rd of August is going to be more marines. It should wrap with the incursors/infiltrators, tank and eliminators. Three kits is manageable.

Production issues makes sense for the models but not for the books.

Yes it does. They can't go to their usual printer and say 'Hey, do seven books simultaneously for us. Just bump your other customers off the press.'

Though at this point they don't seem to even have a regular printer- various books this year have different company names from China and the Warcry rulebook was surprisingly published in the UK.
But having inconsistent relationships (rather than being a regular customer) makes it even more difficult to schedule time.

Would like the Primaris Lieutenant, but if at £17.50 I'd much rather the easy-to-build intercessors and perform a simple conversion with plasticard and putty.

They are nice sculpts though - especially the Librarian.

I'm pretty sure the RAW, this means not only is first turn deep strike but also means you can put your entire army into them. Especially since acceptable losses means that tabling isn't a victory condition.

 ulfhednir86 wrote:
I'm pretty sure the RAW, this means not only is first turn deep strike but also means you can put your entire army into them. Especially since acceptable losses means that tabling isn't a victory condition.

Incorrect. While you can arrive turn 1, only the units are exempt. The part where you must have half your army on the battlefield isn't affecting units, it's applying to the player.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 ulfhednir86 wrote:
I'm pretty sure the RAW, this means not only is first turn deep strike but also means you can put your entire army into them. Especially since acceptable losses means that tabling isn't a victory condition.

Incorrect. While you can arrive turn 1, only the units are exempt. The part where you must have half your army on the battlefield isn't affecting units, it's applying to the player.

Makes sense, but 5th line down does mention matched play.

Another idea is keeping them in reserve until turn 4 or later seems to work now.

 Starfarer wrote:
Move over, Orktober. Marines are gonna show you how it's done with Adeptus Astaugust.

Every month is new Marine models month.......especially when you include FW.

Interested to see what else they come up with but hope the vehilces might tone down the Guns, Guns Guns! theme

I think we've seen all the new stuff, they're just going to stretch it out. as it is if they keep to 2 supplements a month they've got marine releases for a good length of time. well until, next year if one assumes the space wolves, dark angels and blood angels will each get a updated codex

BrianDavion wrote:
the space wolves, dark angels and blood angels will each get a updated codex

At least they're getting an updated Codex, looking at the digital releases, the new SM Codex is entirely new, not like the CSM 2.0.

Fictional wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
the space wolves, dark angels and blood angels will each get a updated codex

At least they're getting an updated Codex, looking at the digital releases, the new SM Codex is entirely new, not like the CSM 2.0.

we dunno if they will, I said if one assumes GW is wanting to put out a updated SW, DA and BA codex, they might just point out a FAQ saying "you can take these vanguard units" and call ti a day

Fictional wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
the space wolves, dark angels and blood angels will each get a updated codex

At least they're getting an updated Codex, looking at the digital releases, the new SM Codex is entirely new, not like the CSM 2.0.

At least Chaos had a 1.0 Codex for a good 2 years, rocking all kinds of insane tournament winning combos, while Space Wolves sat on their index.

Now Chaos has a 2.0 and a gazillion cool Specialist Detachments, while Space Wolves sit on outdated garbage and half-assed PDFs, probably for another 2 years, when they‘ll get a a 2021 book written for the 2019 game, probably a month before either Chaos 3.0 or straight 9th Edition.

Chaos Marines should probably lose all Strats, Relics, Legion Traits, WL Traits, etc.. and Play straighten Index for a year or two, to get a taste of how it feels to not be constantly pampered like Chaos Marines, lol.

So can someone clarify for the wording of the Successor Chapter rule; Can you still take one extra Chapter Tactic, so you can have say, Salamander Chapter Tactics + the +3" to ranged weapons CT.
Or is it only the founding Chapter Tactics and nothing else?

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
So can someone clarify for the wording of the Successor Chapter rule; Can you still take one extra Chapter Tactic, so you can have say, Salamander Chapter Tactics + the +3" to ranged weapons CT.
Or is it only the founding Chapter Tactics and nothing else?

only the founding chapter.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
So can someone clarify for the wording of the Successor Chapter rule; Can you still take one extra Chapter Tactic, so you can have say, Salamander Chapter Tactics + the +3" to ranged weapons CT.
Or is it only the founding Chapter Tactics and nothing else?

only the founding chapter.

Yeah that makes sense, watching the GMG video he worded it like you could take the founding CT AND one extra one, which made no sense because then EVERYONE would run successor chapters.

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
So can someone clarify for the wording of the Successor Chapter rule; Can you still take one extra Chapter Tactic, so you can have say, Salamander Chapter Tactics + the +3" to ranged weapons CT.
Or is it only the founding Chapter Tactics and nothing else?

only the founding chapter.

Yeah that makes sense, watching the GMG video he worded it like you could take the founding CT AND one extra one, which made no sense because then EVERYONE would run successor chapters.

I forget what it was as it was minor but I did catch him making at least one mistake in his video. the first videos are GOING to have the odd error, simply due to the rush