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BrianDavion wrote:
on the bright side my birthday is on the 4th so I'll have birthday money for the big mini release that presumably pre-orders on the 7th

How old are you now?

 Alpharius wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
on the bright side my birthday is on the 4th so I'll have birthday money for the big mini release that presumably pre-orders on the 7th

How old are you now?

in my thirties but I still get a little bit of money from my folks when I have it.

Lord, the “losing drive” comments are driving me nuts. I hate that GW doesn’t normally give us a six month window on upcoming releases. They have really trained their customers to impulse buy, instead of allowing us to plan ahead and saving up for releases.

 Stormonu wrote:
Lord, the “losing drive” comments are driving me nuts. I hate that GW doesn’t normally give us a six month window on upcoming releases. They have really trained their customers to impulse buy, instead of allowing us to plan ahead and saving up for releases.

Yeah, I don't understand this at all. I plan on adding plenty of Vanguard units to my still in progress Primaris army, but I certainly don't plan or need to buy them all in the next two weeks. I'm finishing up my summer army still, won't be working on any more Marines for at least a few more weeks and still have DI/Shadowspear jump guys to do. The Incursors not being available yet doesn't make me want or plan to buy them any less.

We're probably getting more Space Marine reveals at Nova, 7pm Wednesday evening Eastern time.

 axisofentropy wrote:
We're probably getting more Space Marine reveals at Nova, 7pm Wednesday evening Eastern time.

If all they preview is a couple of supplements and 2 characters that'll suck.

Not all of us are sitting on mountains of plastic crack shame

 axisofentropy wrote:
We're probably getting more Space Marine reveals at Nova, 7pm Wednesday evening Eastern time.

multipart supressors would be a nice suprise

Dudeface wrote:

 axisofentropy wrote:
We're probably getting more Space Marine reveals at Nova, 7pm Wednesday evening Eastern time.

If all they preview is a couple of supplements and 2 characters that'll suck.

I would be surprised if we even get that. And really, what do we even need for kit previews? We already know what all of the units do. Supplements would be nice though.

 Stormonu wrote:
Lord, the “losing drive” comments are driving me nuts. I hate that GW doesn’t normally give us a six month window on upcoming releases. They have really trained their customers to impulse buy, instead of allowing us to plan ahead and saving up for releases.

Eh. Its not necessarily about buying, and is a lot of about planning. I was interested in the new stuff, but at this point can't even plan around it because the bulk of the release got kicked into limbo immediately after being shown off.
They have trained us to expect releases shortly after they get the song and dance on the website, and new troops and a new dedicated transport for the primary army in the primary game don't usually get shoved off in favor of a procession of niche products.
No word on what should be the highlight of the summer releases is just plain weird.

Don't care which one it is, how much people like it, or how much they're looking forward to it, AI, Warcry and a BF expansion don't compare to SM sales at all.

 axisofentropy wrote:
We're probably getting more Space Marine reveals at Nova, 7pm Wednesday evening Eastern time.

The preview is 8pm Eastern.

I'm thinking/speculating that the 40k side of things will show:
-Remaining Space Marine supplements and associated characters(we have 4 to go still)
-Psychic Awakening
-Kill Team related boxes/whatnots


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 Stormonu wrote:
Lord, the “losing drive” comments are driving me nuts. I hate that GW doesn’t normally give us a six month window on upcoming releases. They have really trained their customers to impulse buy, instead of allowing us to plan ahead and saving up for releases.

I can't speak for anyone else, but the simplest issue is that there's a [/i]lot[/i] of items tied up with relation to these missing sets.
Eliminators with Las-Fusils? Not here yet.
Incursors? Not here yet.
Impulsors? Not here yet.
Hell, even the Reiver LT isn't here yet.

It's an entirely reasonable response for some people to get burnt out while just remaining in a holding pattern waiting for the items they actually wanted or were excited for. I didn't care about anything beyond the Invictor or the Ultramarines/White Scars stuff from the currently released stuff.

I'm sitting on around $300 strictly for Eliminators, Incursors, and the Reiver LT--plus the Raven Guard book and associated items. If I wasn't a big Raven Guard fanboy? I might have just moved on to something else or used that cash for something else.

I find the fact they hyped the crap out of that Lieutenant and then took forever to release him pretty hilarious. Way to feth up royally, GW Marketing Team.

And yeah, it is more the fact that I am sitting around waiting for the stuff I AM adding to my army(2x Impulsors, 2x Eliminators) that I don't even want to get the things I don't necessarily need but kinda want (Invictor, Incursors). They are giving me more time to talk myself out of a lot of things.

Do I want to finish up collecting all the new Primaris models that haven't come out yet?

Yes.

Am I finished painting all the Primaris stuff I already have?

Not Quite.

I'll admit I am chomping at the bit some for the rest of the vanguard Primaris stuff. At the same time, I still have a Primaris Chaplain, Primaris Librarian, 5 Hellblasters, 2 Inceptors, a repulsor executioner, a repulsor and a storm raven to finish painting on the space marine side of things. So I'll try and turn my anticipation into painting time to get caught up so I can focus on the new stuff when it does get released.

 Saturmorn Carvilli wrote:
Do I want to finish up collecting all the new Primaris models that haven't come out yet?

Yes.

Am I finished painted all the Primaris stuff I already have?

Not Quite.

I'll admit I am chomping at the bit some for the rest of the vanguard Primaris stuff. At the same time, I still have a Primaris Chaplain, Primaris Librarian, 5 Hellblasters, 2 Inceptors, a repulsor executioner, a repulsor and a storm raven to finish painting on the space marine side of things. So I try and turn my anticipation into painting time to get caught up so I can focus on the new stuff when it does release.

There are a lot of new things I covet, but my pile of shame is deep enough to keep me painting for years. If they drag things out too long, I can probably wait a little longer, and see if the stuff I care about gets bundled together for the holidays. Because I’d totally plop down the cash for a vanguard megaforce. Or a Start Collecting: Vanguard marines. Or heck, with a lot of the updates to the older units, I could probably use more of them as well, if the discount is there...

But buying individual units is generally something that should be avoided when you can from GW. The patient hunter gets the prey...

I'm chomping at the bit waiting to see what's going to be in next month's White Dwarf. The only hint was Primaris Dark Angels, so my hope is that one or more of the characters get the Primaris treatment. I hope it isn't just a Start Collecting bundle with the DA Primaris Lieutenant, some Intercessors, and some Hellblasters, as those are all things I've already got a lot of (well, as many as I need, anyways).

I have feverishly been painting my unfinished primaris stuff for last two weeks. If I get at least majority of it done it is easier to justify myself getting new things.

 Crimson wrote:
I have feverishly been painting my unfinished primaris stuff for last two weeks. If I get at least majority of it done it is easier to justify myself getting new things.

Please, easy or not, we always find a way to justify it!

I try to paint more then I buy, but if the price is right am willing to forgo that goal. I also don’t rush painting so fast I drop in quality trying to meet quotas. They are not going to go stale, better to take my time and be happy with the results.

But any motivation you can harness to get things across the paint bench is a good one.

My Redemptor dreadnought has been on my workbench since it was released, what, two years ago. So I decided that I at least finish it before getting another dreadnought.

Thought technically Invictor is not a dreadnought...

 Nevelon wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I have feverishly been painting my unfinished primaris stuff for last two weeks. If I get at least majority of it done it is easier to justify myself getting new things.

Please, easy or not, we always find a way to justify it!

I try to paint more then I buy, but if the price is right am willing to forgo that goal. I also don’t rush painting so fast I drop in quality trying to meet quotas. They are not going to go stale, better to take my time and be happy with the results.

But any motivation you can harness to get things across the paint bench is a good one.

Oh, I get that. I would probably be pretty close to finished with my space marine stuff if it weren't for Warcry coming out (closest thing to a miniatures regret I have). Well, that and work, hot weather and work in hot weather. The week Warcry came out, I had all the terrain and both teams built with a fair amount of base painting on them. I still haven't even read the rules for Warcry. The worst part was the whole time I just wanted to be painting my space marines.

So I have enough paint on the Warcry stuff (I still haven't built the creatures) that if someone does want to play warcry my stuff has a least 4 colors on everything. I have largely boxed it up to go back to painting my marines. Unfortunately, it looks like I am getting into the painting commission service, and I will be reducing my personal painting time for a couple of commissions (nothing fancy, just some GW terrain).

I am with you on not having painting quotas, I don't get asked to paint stuff on commission enough for it to be an issue as I do commissions more to see more painted armies out there than any kinda of profit. For my own stuff, I usually paint in phases with the first one being the minimum amount of paint on the model before I will allow myself to even field it. Followed by painting to pretty good standard and finally little details pretty much only I will notice or show up in photos. Currently, I just want to paint Primaris space marines. They don't have too much baroque detail like my CSM that if feels like it takes too long to paint a single model, yet the also are so simple, like Necrons, that I can paint a whole squad over a weekend. They have just enough details that I feel like I really accomplished something. It doesn't hurt that their main color is my favorite paint color.

Quasistellar wrote:
Not all of us are sitting on mountains of plastic crack shame

Your doing it wrong then

 Stormonu wrote:
They have really trained their customers to impulse buy, instead of allowing us to plan ahead and saving up for releases.

Nothing stops you putting a little money aside each month, there will eventually be things released that you will want. If you are capable of doing when you know the release schedule, you can definitely do it when you don't.

I just want GW to come out and let me know if my DA/BA/DW/SW are getting updated codexes or not so I can decide what color to paint my new models and figure out what to do with all of the chapter specific models I won't be using this edition if they don't get a re-boot...

Danny76 wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 ph34r wrote:
Sorry for being vague. In my instance I am thinking about specifically Lamenters, and taking a Lamenters special character. So, sounds like I need to use the Blood Angels codex in this case.

Yeah if you want to use Malakim Phoros you're locked into the Blood Angels rules. If you're ok with using the SM codex rules and none of the special BA stuff you can always make your own chapter THE LAMENTERS and use the SM Successor rules, of course.

And use a generic character and call him “Malakim”, if you don’t specifically want his special profile.
You could even run the Ultramarine book, with Calgar, and call him that, and call the chapter Lamenters on paper/out loud.
As long as the rules for the list are all from one place etc etc

It actually depends how FW worded how to take Malakim. It's not outside plausibility he's worded that he can be taken as a Codex Marines CM.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I find the fact they hyped the crap out of that Lieutenant and then took forever to release him pretty hilarious. Way to feth up royally, GW Marketing Team.

I find it even funnier that they hyped the crap out of that Lieutenant when his design is such a confused mess and no one was particularly excited about the rules he already had. "Oh boy, a new model for a unit that I probably already have and definitely don't see a reason to own a second one of. Hooray." [/sarcasm]

Fictional wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
They have really trained their customers to impulse buy, instead of allowing us to plan ahead and saving up for releases.

Nothing stops you putting a little money aside each month, there will eventually be things released that you will want. If you are capable of doing when you know the release schedule, you can definitely do it when you don't.

Thing is, that money I put aside is already allocated for things I know that are coming. GW springs something unexpected on me, and they’ll have to wait two months (or more) before I’ve put aside money for their kit.

The Newman wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I find the fact they hyped the crap out of that Lieutenant and then took forever to release him pretty hilarious. Way to feth up royally, GW Marketing Team.

I find it even funnier that they hyped the crap out of that Lieutenant when his design is such a confused mess and no one was particularly excited about the rules he already had. "Oh boy, a new model for a unit that I probably already have and definitely don't see a reason to own a second one of. Hooray." [/sarcasm]

Have you noticed how most of the Lieutenants they have released recently all have the top of their helmet off or no helmet altogether. GW must have gotten tired of painting those stripes.

I would really like the ability to swap the backpacks on the two different Phobos Lieutenants to make an actual halfways useful Lieutenant. I also think the one without a grav chute should have Concealed Positions. But apparently GW wanted to make two totally useless Lieutenants instead. Pass.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

The Newman wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I find the fact they hyped the crap out of that Lieutenant and then took forever to release him pretty hilarious. Way to feth up royally, GW Marketing Team.

I find it even funnier that they hyped the crap out of that Lieutenant when his design is such a confused mess and no one was particularly excited about the rules he already had. "Oh boy, a new model for a unit that I probably already have and definitely don't see a reason to own a second one of. Hooray." [/sarcasm]

Have you noticed how most of the Lieutenants they have released recently all have the top of their helmet off or no helmet altogether. GW must have gotten tired of painting those stripes.

I would really like the ability to swap the backpacks on the two different Phobos Lieutenants to make an actual halfways useful Lieutenant. I also think the one without a grav chute should have Concealed Positions. But apparently GW wanted to make two totally useless Lieutenants instead. Pass.

No model, no rules cost them sales. Who knew?

Just one Lt. dataslate with a few options you could mix and match, and a simple backpack/weapon swap would sort this mess out and rack up some sales. Right now a pass from me as well.

I used to buy multiple boxes to kitbash one unit, would do so again. I’d rather work in GW plastic than 3rd part resin.

Even if you incorporporated 3rd party bitz, most people still used mainline gw models for use and kitbashes off these.

But alas we now have dexes that are stuck on 3 hq choices without special ones.
For 3 subtypes.

 Nevelon wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

The Newman wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I find the fact they hyped the crap out of that Lieutenant and then took forever to release him pretty hilarious. Way to feth up royally, GW Marketing Team.

I find it even funnier that they hyped the crap out of that Lieutenant when his design is such a confused mess and no one was particularly excited about the rules he already had. "Oh boy, a new model for a unit that I probably already have and definitely don't see a reason to own a second one of. Hooray." [/sarcasm]

Have you noticed how most of the Lieutenants they have released recently all have the top of their helmet off or no helmet altogether. GW must have gotten tired of painting those stripes.

I would really like the ability to swap the backpacks on the two different Phobos Lieutenants to make an actual halfways useful Lieutenant. I also think the one without a grav chute should have Concealed Positions. But apparently GW wanted to make two totally useless Lieutenants instead. Pass.

No model, no rules cost them sales. Who knew?

Just one Lt. dataslate with a few options you could mix and match, and a simple backpack/weapon swap would sort this mess out and rack up some sales. Right now a pass from me as well.

I used to buy multiple boxes to kitbash one unit, would do so again. I’d rather work in GW plastic than 3rd part resin.

Except that both kits exist in GW plastic, it is just a matter of swapping backpacks and/or heads. It is what it is, I guess. Money saved for me. I have more LTs than I could ever make use of anyway.

So I'm assuming everyone now has saw the new Kayven Shrike tacticool Primaris Phobos model... I'm going to be the first to jump in and say its possibly the ugliest character model they've made in 10 years.