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They were made for KT, that's why there are a bunch of voidsmen on the team, Warhammer Quest minimized the appearance of squad and minions on the hero team. Some heroes are also too weak and ill equipped to be a Quest hero. And the Nurgle team they're fighting are their crewmates infected with the virus. (except the glitchlings, margots and flies)

The idea could work but it require effort from the designer team and GW stopped being stingy on the budget.



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Some filler article.
They put the canoptek wraith in the picture, but Necron can't use them....

"Something even greater"

Here we go again...

Pre-orders are up on NZ site. Looks like Killzones contain less terrain than previously. Boo hiss.

Chopstick wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/26/new-rules-bring-veterans-of-the-indomitus-crusade-to-kill-team/
Some filler article.
They put the canoptek wraith in the picture, but Necron can't use them....

There is a bit of news in that article (emphasis added):

We’ll have much more to share with you regarding the next evolution of Kill Team over the coming months, so make sure to follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram to keep up with the latest.

It seems like this won't be released anytime soon...

A bit let down with the alternate cryptek heads, but not sure what I expected. Only so many ways to do a cryptek head

Also, the flayed ones extend so far beyond their bases. One's got his claw all the way down the side of his base, etc. Flayed ones shouldn't be on massive bases, but the way these models are posed, they wouldn't look out of place with destroyer sized bases

jullevi wrote:
Pre-orders are up on NZ site. Looks like Killzones contain less terrain than previously. Boo hiss.

Oh wow, yeah that's a hell of a lot less. I was going to buy four, that's now gonna be zero. I think they've reached my tipping point again. I'll check back in a year to see if the pricing has become acceptable to me again I suppose.

Sector Fronteris seems to have been significantly less gutted than the others. Seems to have lost one of the medium ruin sprue and gained a smaller ruin sprue instead (originally version had 2 of the sprues with the Inquisitor crates, new box has 2). This one might actually make for a more interesting board than the original.

The other two killzones have been gutted.

I was hoping for a wall of Martyrs rerelease but definitely won’t pick it up it it’s gutted the same way.

 Ghaz wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/26/new-rules-bring-veterans-of-the-indomitus-crusade-to-kill-team/
Some filler article.
They put the canoptek wraith in the picture, but Necron can't use them....

There is a bit of news in that article (emphasis added):

We’ll have much more to share with you regarding the next evolution of Kill Team over the coming months, so make sure to follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram to keep up with the latest.

It seems like this won't be released anytime soon...

It sounds like that’s some more stuff coming for Kill Team.
Not a bad thing as we’ve had nothing for a good while.

jullevi wrote:
Pre-orders are up on NZ site. Looks like Killzones contain less terrain than previously. Boo hiss.

Oh gak you're right. They gutted the contents.

These pics from their 'Next Week' article are a complete lie:



So they've increased the price and reduced the content. Just wow...

Less for more, a GW's classic. Now also with false advertisement.

 GaroRobe wrote:
A bit let down with the alternate cryptek heads, but not sure what I expected. Only so many ways to do a cryptek head

Eh? I guess, but I've never really thought of the cryptek heads as particularly important- just their non-standard staves and wargear bobs.
It seems really notable that the new crypteks specifically can't be put together just by converting an immortal with a leftover staff from a fantasy kit.

But I'm really surprised this one is two sprues. Rather unusual for a character.

Also, the flayed ones extend so far beyond their bases. One's got his claw all the way down the side of his base, etc. Flayed ones shouldn't be on massive bases, but the way these models are posed, they wouldn't look out of place with destroyer sized bases

Yeah, I'd put them on 32 like warriors (and all the other infantry). Putting them on a smaller base looks weird for the model AND for the overall look of the army.

Chopstick wrote:
Less for more, a GW's classic. Now also with false advertisement.

Even their "coming this week" video contained the pictures of the old sets.

 Jadenim wrote:
The thing with the Rogue Trader box is that it was fundamentally a very different theme to normal Kill Team; normal Kill Team is a squad based skirmish system set in normal 40k battle zones with the standard armies, whereas Rogue Trader is semi-civilians in more of a dungeon crawl arrangement.

If they wanted to do a Kill Team dungeon crawl, they’d have been better doing a Zone Mortalis or even a Space Hulk theme.

The Rogue Trader squad they designed feels more at home in Blackstone Fortress. And that’s before we get into the fixed build of the Rogue Trader squad, versus the custom squad flexibility at the core of Kill Team.

I agree with you that the Rogue Trader box feels like Blackstone Fortress stuff.

But I disagree about RT being a miss. I love the miniatures and love the fact that those and BSF minis have rules for Kill Team. All of these various characters make very characterful leaders and specialists to many types of Kill Teams, Admech, Tau/Kroot, Guard, Sisters, Eldar, Chaos.. Heck, we might even get some connection to spindle drones & the Necrons soon by the looks of it!

KT Rogue Trader as a self-contained game is not all that great. The missions and the board itself feels a bit underwhelming. You need to mix it all up with all the existing 40K stuff.

The Blackstone fortress characters are pretty good, and cheap.

2/3 Rogue trader characters are pretty terrible while the "good" character (knosso pond) is expensive. But it doesn't matter because you can't bring them outside.

Rogue Trader as a team is god awful, their only source of reliable damage is the gatling gunner and voidsmaster nitsh, you take both of these fighters out and the team will fall apart.

Well, my preorder is in. Hopefully this box will ship on schedule, I selected local store pickup as the delivery method, which hopefully speeds things up a bit.

jullevi wrote:
Pre-orders are up on NZ site. Looks like Killzones contain less terrain than previously. Boo hiss.

And people think new Quest will cost the same as Blackstone Fortress

 lord_blackfang wrote:

jullevi wrote:
Pre-orders are up on NZ site. Looks like Killzones contain less terrain than previously. Boo hiss.

And people think new Quest will cost the same as Blackstone Fortress

Don’t think I’ve seen anyone say that.

$280 NZD for the Indomitus Kill team guys....... Hahahah, they know you can still buy Indomitus right?

Pariah Nexus product page states KT core rulebook is required (but not dice even though no dice is included in box which is slightly careless in the product description).

Killzones sets are marked as limited availability on Wayland Games. I hope they aren't gone in a flash. Otherwise what's the point of going to the bother for the Killzones book? Why not release non-Pariah Nexus boards for non-Necron/Space Marine players to promote the close combat rules in Pariah Nexus.

And not surprisingly its £95. Not happening.

Oh wow. That's all i can say about this.

So can anyone figure out what the difference between various heavy intercessor guns is supposed to be? GW has not bothered to show the variants assembled, but looking at the sprue pics, I can just see a bunch of nigh identical ammo boxes. They will be even harder to tell apart than normal intercessor or hellblaster weapons.

 Crimson wrote:
So can anyone figure out what the difference between various heavy intercessor guns is supposed to be?

Box magazines, drum magazines, exotic shape in between magazines? That's my best guess.

 Crimson wrote:
GW has not bothered to show the variants assembled, but looking at the sprue pics, I can just see a bunch of nigh identical ammo boxes. They will be even harder to tell apart than normal intercessor or hellblaster weapons.

Probably? There's only so many variations of the same gun GW can do before the differences become marginal and hard to tell apart.

 Geifer wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
So can anyone figure out what the difference between various heavy intercessor guns is supposed to be?

Box magazines, drum magazines, exotic shape in between magazines? That's my best guess.

 Crimson wrote:
GW has not bothered to show the variants assembled, but looking at the sprue pics, I can just see a bunch of nigh identical ammo boxes. They will be even harder to tell apart than normal intercessor or hellblaster weapons.

Probably? There's only so many variations of the same gun GW can do before the differences become marginal and hard to tell apart.

Yeah, only the magazines/ammo boxes under the guns are different. GW is only showing the normal heavy bolt rifles and heavy bolter. The hellstorm bolt rifle has a round magazine and the magazine of the executor bolt rifle is longer then that of the heavy bolt rifle and has a skull and crossbones on it.

 Crimson wrote:
So can anyone figure out what the difference between various heavy intercessor guns is supposed to be? GW has not bothered to show the variants assembled, but looking at the sprue pics, I can just see a bunch of nigh identical ammo boxes. They will be even harder to tell apart than normal intercessor or hellblaster weapons.

There are 3 type of bolter, each have a heavy version, which is the "heavy bolter" with different type of mag just like the bolter.

So I read the description of Pariah Nexus on the NZ site. It looks like the description doesn't mention anything about the Core Rules (which were confirmed not to be in the box). GW should probably post an article on WarCom notifying people about this error they have been spouting for several weeks now.

I can't imagine being a new player excited to get into this game and ordering the Pariah Nexus set and opening it to find that I can't even play the game.

We've wrote a comprehensive review for Pariah Nexus incl. an unboxing video and a beautiful alternate paint scheme for the Chronomancer: https://taleofpainters.com/2021/02/review-killteam-pariah-nexus-expansion/

Indeed no rulebook included.

Chopstick wrote:
Less for more, a GW's classic. Now also with false advertisement.

Seems like video game companies are now being sued for false advertisement. Bethesda, CD Projekt Red I believe. If GW goes down this route, I believe they can have a class action law suite as well, if a company wants to go for it.

So not sure if GW will address this quickly or not. It seems GW reacts fast when it comes to lawyers, so time will tell if GW goes the false advertisement route. After 2020, things have changed in industries where we never thought can happen is happening now.

 Geifer wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
So can anyone figure out what the difference between various heavy intercessor guns is supposed to be?

Box magazines, drum magazines, exotic shape in between magazines? That's my best guess.

 Crimson wrote:
GW has not bothered to show the variants assembled, but looking at the sprue pics, I can just see a bunch of nigh identical ammo boxes. They will be even harder to tell apart than normal intercessor or hellblaster weapons.

Probably? There's only so many variations of the same gun GW can do before the differences become marginal and hard to tell apart.

Intercessors and hellblasters already soared past that point. Someone assembling them can obviously work through the differences, but someone on the other side of a table is often just going to ask.

If, when Codex SM gets redone again, GW condenses bolt weapon variation down to the point that their Ranged Weapons table is down to 3 pages rather than 4 and a half pages, I'll throw them a little party.

It's particularly galling since basic bolters have had tons of variations of scopes magazines and clips (and also basic frames, furniture and stocks) over the years, so using that as excuse for different profiles is absolutely nonsensical.

Tact marine got a points increase : now 14-15-15. (previously 12-13-13), Sternguard also seeing a point increase to 16-17-17.

Heavy intercessor are 17-18-18, making them the cheapest 3 Wound unit in the game.