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This wait for an unknown amount of time for the remaining ~20% of my Crimson Fists' rules is massively frustrating. I've decided to skip this release and not buy anything till I get the rest of my army list and I can actually see what's good.

Just to nitpick, if this relates to "psychic awakening" then surely having both World Eaters and Black Templars involved is a really ass about face thing to do? 2 factions with no psykers? Same for the sisters?

 Sabotage! wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
apparently following the destruction of Cadian many Cadian regiments settled onto new worlds and basicly taught them how to be Cadians, so chances are there's several worlds now producing regiments that identify as Cadian

Pretty much the fluff justification for why they are the only Regiment GW produces anymore. It works though, I guess.

I don't think that really works as a justification. A regiment trained by Cadians wouldn't identify as Cadian any more than the Afghan Government forces of modern day or the Contras of the 80s identify as U.S. soldiers. GW is just being lazy and not producing a new Guard regiments (not sure if they don't sell well or what).

It's been established since The Eye of Terror campaign that the worlds settled by Cadians(of which there are a lot) still retain the Cadian 'identities'.


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Dudeface wrote:
Just to nitpick, if this relates to "psychic awakening" then surely having both World Eaters and Black Templars involved is a really ass about face thing to do? 2 factions with no psykers? Same for the sisters?

Khorne dominates spellcasters in AoS, so that's not exactly unprecedented.

If I had to guess:
If this is indeed an "Endless Spells" styled thing, there will be an equivalent for Priests or units of a similar nature.

 Sabotage! wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
apparently following the destruction of Cadian many Cadian regiments settled onto new worlds and basicly taught them how to be Cadians, so chances are there's several worlds now producing regiments that identify as Cadian

Pretty much the fluff justification for why they are the only Regiment GW produces anymore. It works though, I guess.

I don't think that really works as a justification. A regiment trained by Cadians wouldn't identify as Cadian any more than the Afghan Government forces of modern day or the Contras of the 80s identify as U.S. soldiers. GW is just being lazy and not producing a new Guard regiments (not sure if they don't sell well or what).

You overestimate the population of a lot of Segmentum Obscurus worlds, and underestimate the population of the Cadian diaspora. In plenty of instances Cadians would be the dominant cultural demographic of the worlds they ended up on. They wouldn’t be training a population of Cadian wannabes, they’d be training de facto Cadians.

I’ll personally be surprised if the next box set is BT vs Orks. Not because it is “unlikely”, but, simply because in May I got a message implying something else is the next planned box.

Essentially, the “nod” back then, was that the next major faction v faction box to be released this year would be Sisters vs Chaos, with the Chaos side being Alpha Legion in focus and including a new Cultists sprue/kit.

Now, we know that the Cultists are getting more sculpts in Blackstone Fortress – so, maybe this is linked, or maybe it’s just a mix up on what is in the box vs the SOB.

In regard to the timing of the supplements, who knows at this point – though I’d hope that they would be coming a bit quicker than over the next 4 months. On the subject of the Raven Guard though, one of the characters said to be converting to Primaris back then, was Shrike.

In addition to all this stuff, I was also told about everything being in one big Space Marine book with lots of “mini-dex’s” alongside them. This kinda implied that BA/SW/DA/DW would be able to just tie in and use the main codex, but, whilst all the units have been made available to them, the codex appears not to be. I also took the “mini-dexs” to mean more White Dwarf style releases, rather than supplements (which is far far far better imo).
Finally, the convo ended with talk of a new named character for the Iron Hands (at this point we can presume it’s the Iron Father model they previewed) and “something big and unexpected” coming in the near future. I’m guessing this ties into the whole Psychic Awakening thing, though how it is going to play out, or what will be involved, I have no idea.

Still, who knows what is going to happen over the next few months.

I'd be interested in knowing what if any details you have with regards to Shrike.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'd be interested in knowing what if any details you have with regards to Shrike.

Right now, none other than he is getting the Primaris treatment. So, I’d expect at least +1 W and A. The first full on combat Primaris unit imo. It'd make him 8 attacks on the charge with relic lightening claws.
Also, pure speculation, but, the idea that has some potential, is that it opens the gateway for more JP Primaris models.

See, it's funny because the new Codex talks about him with Phobos gear and the Eliminator's Bolt Sniper Rifle is a "Shrike" pattern.

It may of course be Endless Spells but I don't think it's going to be such a one shop deal since we know a campaign is coming this fall, so I would expect it to tie into a campaign. There is nothing stopping it being endless spells plus new minis/books around that specific event.

As to the Avatar, I don't think that will be it since if the switch is going to be Ynnead, that's a completely different God.

C'mon NOVA, give us some good intel!

 Kanluwen wrote:
See, it's funny because the new Codex talks about him with Phobos gear and the Eliminator's Bolt Sniper Rifle is a "Shrike" pattern.

Phobos would make sense i guess, or a variation of it, however, i'd be incredibly disappointed if he lost the mobility in favour of grav chutes.

I am kinda curious how 40k "Endless Spells" might end up being like. Fantasy has in my mind a much easier time doing such spells due to the innate fantasy of the setting. Therefore it is not weird to have a stampede of undead horses or a powered nuclear mushroom or a bleeding chalice of bones. The Endless Spells in AoS were also a way(at least with predatory spells) to affect the Double Turn. 40k spells of AoS diversity would be weird(except maybe for Orks) and currently there is no need to affect any double turns as there are none in 40k.

 bullyboy wrote:


As to the Avatar, I don't think that will be it since if the switch is going to be Ynnead, that's a completely different God.

C'mon NOVA, give us some good intel!

That might be a change of direction: GW has been going hard for nostalgia concepts for a couple of years now with harlies, genestealer cults, not to mention necromunda, bloodbowl etc, and now gearing up for crescendo in a Sisters remake. With BSF we have seen even more stuff like ambull, rogue traders and even some almost comical sci fi beastmen.
Perhaps they start to turn away from that before they get to the Avatar and his aspects. The Marines have a radical high tech non-brutal re-imagining after all.

Crazy. I was thinking to myself last week that if they do a If supplement and redo characters for If, CF, and Templars it'd be a sizable release. Now it's kinda coming together since last year's battle box was IF

Kdash wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
See, it's funny because the new Codex talks about him with Phobos gear and the Eliminator's Bolt Sniper Rifle is a "Shrike" pattern.

Phobos would make sense i guess, or a variation of it, however, i'd be incredibly disappointed if he lost the mobility in favour of grav chutes.

Have you seen the rules for the Instigator Bolt Carbine? It goes on Eliminator Sergeants--when firing Overwatch, they resolve it and then the unit moves.

I'm wondering if "Blackout"(a named Bolter mentioned in the SM codex) will be Shrike's new tool of the trade and have similar rules where after firing, he'd get to make a Move.
Mobility doesn't need to be just "He can move far!".

 Eldarsif wrote:
I am kinda curious how 40k "Endless Spells" might end up being like. Fantasy has in my mind a much easier time doing such spells due to the innate fantasy of the setting. Therefore it is not weird to have a stampede of undead horses or a powered nuclear mushroom or a bleeding chalice of bones. The Endless Spells in AoS were also a way(at least with predatory spells) to affect the Double Turn. 40k spells of AoS diversity would be weird(except maybe for Orks) and currently there is no need to affect any double turns as there are none in 40k.

They'll probably just bring back the classics- vortex, various storms, hellfire, etc.
I'm still holding out hope that it will be a new psychic army rather than pointless table clutter, but I'm not holding my breath.

 Eldarsif wrote:
I am kinda curious how 40k "Endless Spells" might end up being like. Fantasy has in my mind a much easier time doing such spells due to the innate fantasy of the setting. Therefore it is not weird to have a stampede of undead horses or a powered nuclear mushroom or a bleeding chalice of bones. The Endless Spells in AoS were also a way(at least with predatory spells) to affect the Double Turn. 40k spells of AoS diversity would be weird(except maybe for Orks) and currently there is no need to affect any double turns as there are none in 40k.

You're talking about lore and theme and things making sense. Those are far down the list of things GW cares about. The important part is that the endless spells are designed by the terrain team and manufactured in China, so they can easily pump them out with each new book.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btmQ3yPGDCs

Take with appropriate levels of salt.

Basically as the video. Rumour is stated to be from a source that correctly predicted contents and nature of Blackstone Fortress.

I'll summarise for those who hate Youtube -

1. Marine supplements will be spaced roughly 2 months apart.
2. Iron Hands and Raven Guard next supplement releases apparently.
3. Every chapter will be getting an upgrade sprue.
4. Black Templars vs Orks next box set.
5. Ghazghkull is getting a new model.

May be linked to psychic awakening that references "the beast".

Thoughts?

Because why buy one codex, when we can split content (just like our electronic gaming cousins are doing) and get you to buy tiny supplements at 25$ a piece in addition to everything else. We know you already have a Grimaldis, but, buy this NEW ULTRA ULTRA SPESS MAHREEN PRIMARIS GRAND CHAPLIN GRIMALDIS OF THE BLACK TEMPLARS MIGHTY HERO. Look how shiny he is! And how bold and important, He went to the primaris place and did the thing, became sterile and dull. See all these re-rolls? See all these cool abilities that ignore entire sections of game rules like moral. BUY HIM NOW @ THE NEW SINGLE MODEL CHARACTER PACK PRICE, ONLY 39.99 USD FOR A SINGLE MONO POSE CHARACTER!

So, it's also worth noting that if you own a SM army and wish to play any faction to test builds, you now need the following in addition to MODELS.

The BRB, Codex Space Marines & 5-9 supplement books, two campaign books, 6 issues of white dwarf, the latest FAQ/errata, this years Chapter Approved, Psychic Awakening Supplement, and don't forget your skullmarker TM space bolter dice TM grand army battle case TM...

Jesus, anyone who doesn't see why this marine release sets a bad precedent for the future of the game is either blind or unwilling to consider that they've taken a direct lesson from the behavior of the AAA gaming industry and are trying subtlety to bring it into their own business model. They've been shotgunning boxed game after boxed game into the market for over a year and a half now, spreading so much content out into the wild that it is hard to keep track. And much of that content is still locked behind a paywall. Find me a generic primaris lt that you can buy as a clamp pack. I'll wait.

Remember Blackstone Fortress? I've yet to meet a single person who has ever even played the first mission, but almost every wargamer I know, myself included owns a copy of it. I don't even know why I bought it outside of "Hey, this looks like a great deal for these new models" that I've never touched or painted!

Why does anyone drag around the BRB? I think every box set comes with the little pamphlet.

So basically when I go to play 40k I have my now 2 books, codex and supplement, in addition to the current CA. This book argument is always good for a laugh because I never see anyone carrying around "everything they need" for a game. It's always their codex and just their armies.

 fraser1191 wrote:
Why does anyone drag around the BRB? I think every box set comes with the little pamphlet.

So basically when I go to play 40k I have my now 2 books, codex and supplement, in addition to the current CA. This book argument is always good for a laugh because I never see anyone carrying around "everything they need" for a game. It's always their codex and just their armies.

So you just ignore FAQ's?
And don't bother with vgilus?

Not Online!!! wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:
Why does anyone drag around the BRB? I think every box set comes with the little pamphlet.

So basically when I go to play 40k I have my now 2 books, codex and supplement, in addition to the current CA. This book argument is always good for a laugh because I never see anyone carrying around "everything they need" for a game. It's always their codex and just their armies.

So you just ignore FAQ's?
And don't bother with vgilus?

Everyone in our area carries around Ablaze and a binder full of FAQ's like they're a freaking bible.

I can see some choosing to leave the BRB at home, but given most of the missions I play come from it, I sort of need it to help set up tables.

And again, that is great that this person has codex and supplement, but what if you like to play ALL of the chapters. Even if you only play one at a time you still have to buy ALL the supplements. My concerns are valid, I do not trust the direction the company is going. It stinks of AAA gaming behavior.

 Togusa wrote:
Because why buy one codex, when we can split content (just like our electronic gaming cousins are doing) and get you to buy tiny supplements at 25$ a piece in addition to everything else. We know you already have a Grimaldis, but, buy this NEW ULTRA ULTRA SPESS MAHREEN PRIMARIS GRAND CHAPLIN GRIMALDIS OF THE BLACK TEMPLARS MIGHTY HERO. Look how shiny he is! And how bold and important, He went to the primaris place and did the thing, became sterile and dull. See all these re-rolls? See all these cool abilities that ignore entire sections of game rules like moral. BUY HIM NOW @ THE NEW SINGLE MODEL CHARACTER PACK PRICE, ONLY 39.99 USD FOR A SINGLE MONO POSE CHARACTER!

So, it's also worth noting that if you own a SM army and wish to play any faction to test builds, you now need the following in addition to MODELS.

The BRB, Codex Space Marines & 5-9 supplement books, two campaign books, 6 issues of white dwarf, the latest FAQ/errata, this years Chapter Approved, Psychic Awakening Supplement, and don't forget your skullmarker TM space bolter dice TM grand army battle case TM...

Jesus, anyone who doesn't see why this marine release sets a bad precedent for the future of the game is either blind or unwilling to consider that they've taken a direct lesson from the behavior of the AAA gaming industry and are trying subtlety to bring it into their own business model. They've been shotgunning boxed game after boxed game into the market for over a year and a half now, spreading so much content out into the wild that it is hard to keep track. And much of that content is still locked behind a paywall. Find me a generic primaris lt that you can buy as a clamp pack. I'll wait.

Remember Blackstone Fortress? I've yet to meet a single person who has ever even played the first mission, but almost every wargamer I know, myself included owns a copy of it. I don't even know why I bought it outside of "Hey, this looks like a great deal for these new models" that I've never touched or painted!

Every argument here is so disingenuous I almost feel compelled to reply in green text.

 Togusa wrote:
The BRB, Codex Space Marines & 5-9 supplement books, two campaign books, 6 issues of white dwarf

Except A ) you need zero campaign books, first, because only one dealt with SM, second, because the stratagems were reprinted in new Codex, B ) I have no idea why you would need White Dwarf seeing both CF and BR* had their rules moved to new Codex, too, C ) while the supplements are kind of mild problem, most people will pick one chapter and stick to it. It's really only a problem for TFG who jumps traits constantly to tailor to opponent and if that will cut on this, maybe something good will come from that change.

*which is a shame because it shows how uninspired, lazy garbage the whole BR "focus" thing was but still, it means you only need Codex, sad as it is.

 Togusa wrote:
Find me a generic primaris lt that you can buy as a clamp pack. I'll wait.

Here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Primaris-Lieutenant-With-Power-Sword-2019

What do I win?

JSG wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Because why buy one codex, when we can split content (just like our electronic gaming cousins are doing) and get you to buy tiny supplements at 25$ a piece in addition to everything else. We know you already have a Grimaldis, but, buy this NEW ULTRA ULTRA SPESS MAHREEN PRIMARIS GRAND CHAPLIN GRIMALDIS OF THE BLACK TEMPLARS MIGHTY HERO. Look how shiny he is! And how bold and important, He went to the primaris place and did the thing, became sterile and dull. See all these re-rolls? See all these cool abilities that ignore entire sections of game rules like moral. BUY HIM NOW @ THE NEW SINGLE MODEL CHARACTER PACK PRICE, ONLY 39.99 USD FOR A SINGLE MONO POSE CHARACTER!

So, it's also worth noting that if you own a SM army and wish to play any faction to test builds, you now need the following in addition to MODELS.

The BRB, Codex Space Marines & 5-9 supplement books, two campaign books, 6 issues of white dwarf, the latest FAQ/errata, this years Chapter Approved, Psychic Awakening Supplement, and don't forget your skullmarker TM space bolter dice TM grand army battle case TM...

Jesus, anyone who doesn't see why this marine release sets a bad precedent for the future of the game is either blind or unwilling to consider that they've taken a direct lesson from the behavior of the AAA gaming industry and are trying subtlety to bring it into their own business model. They've been shotgunning boxed game after boxed game into the market for over a year and a half now, spreading so much content out into the wild that it is hard to keep track. And much of that content is still locked behind a paywall. Find me a generic primaris lt that you can buy as a clamp pack. I'll wait.

Remember Blackstone Fortress? I've yet to meet a single person who has ever even played the first mission, but almost every wargamer I know, myself included owns a copy of it. I don't even know why I bought it outside of "Hey, this looks like a great deal for these new models" that I've never touched or painted!

Every argument here is so disingenuous I almost feel compelled to reply in green text.

Is it?

Find me a generic primaris LT that isn't locked behind the paywall of a box set.

Show me someone who plays BS Fortress.

Tell me how carving up chapters into multiple books, and then adding the need to buy a codex, CA, and any supplements isn't money grubbing microtransaction mimicking behavior to a T.

Convince me that Primaris aren't an excuse to get you to buy a whole new army by using "soft force and coercion".

I play Blackstone Fortress.

 Irbis wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
The BRB, Codex Space Marines & 5-9 supplement books, two campaign books, 6 issues of white dwarf

Except A ) you need zero campaign books, first, because only one dealt with SM, second, because the stratagems were reprinted in new Codex, B ) I have no idea why you would need White Dwarf seeing both CF and BR* had their rules moved to new Codex, too, C ) while the supplements are kind of mild problem, most people will pick one chapter and stick to it. It's really only a problem for TFG who jumps traits constantly to tailor to opponent and if that will cut on this, maybe something good will come from that change.

*which is a shame because it shows how uninspired, lazy garbage the whole BR "focus" thing was but still, it means you only need Codex, sad as it is.

 Togusa wrote:
Find me a generic primaris lt that you can buy as a clamp pack. I'll wait.

Here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Primaris-Lieutenant-With-Power-Sword-2019

What do I win?

That's an ultramarine. You win nothing, I said GENERIC.

So, because I might like to try out different chapters that makes me TFG and not a gamer interested in playing with different builds and getting the most bang for buck out of my collection of models? Interesting.

If index chapters are getting reprinted in the book that's even worse as they've basically double charged you for your rules. BR just came out less than a month ago and for 9.99 and now you want me to spend 49.99 to get them again? LOL.

Oh wow, look at all those options and it only costs 35 USD!!! LOLOLOLOL.

 Irbis wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
The BRB, Codex Space Marines & 5-9 supplement books, two campaign books, 6 issues of white dwarf

Except A ) you need zero campaign books, first, because only one dealt with SM, second, because the stratagems were reprinted in new Codex, B ) I have no idea why you would need White Dwarf seeing both CF and BR* had their rules moved to new Codex, too, C ) while the supplements are kind of mild problem, most people will pick one chapter and stick to it. It's really only a problem for TFG who jumps traits constantly to tailor to opponent and if that will cut on this, maybe something good will come from that change.

*which is a shame because it shows how uninspired, lazy garbage the whole BR "focus" thing was but still, it means you only need Codex, sad as it is.

 Togusa wrote:
Find me a generic primaris lt that you can buy as a clamp pack. I'll wait.

Here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Primaris-Lieutenant-With-Power-Sword-2019

What do I win?

Also though, yeah maybe the supplement thing is valid for some, who for some reason can’t settle on an army or whatever.

But “carry around” all that. I mean, youre only going to be playing one of them at a time, so yeah you might buy all of them (valid as annoying sure), but you are carrying at Most,
Rules, Codex, Supplement. And anyone with sense, would jot down the relevant info from CA, but fine add it in too.


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Loads of people play BSF.
Look in the thread on here.
They are the people complaining they are getting priced out by expansions. Can’t get prices out if you aren’t playing it. (That’s a whole other issue to come)


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And also. That is a generic LT.
The Ultra stuff isn’t sculpted on him

Danny76 wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
The BRB, Codex Space Marines & 5-9 supplement books, two campaign books, 6 issues of white dwarf

Except A ) you need zero campaign books, first, because only one dealt with SM, second, because the stratagems were reprinted in new Codex, B ) I have no idea why you would need White Dwarf seeing both CF and BR* had their rules moved to new Codex, too, C ) while the supplements are kind of mild problem, most people will pick one chapter and stick to it. It's really only a problem for TFG who jumps traits constantly to tailor to opponent and if that will cut on this, maybe something good will come from that change.

*which is a shame because it shows how uninspired, lazy garbage the whole BR "focus" thing was but still, it means you only need Codex, sad as it is.

 Togusa wrote:
Find me a generic primaris lt that you can buy as a clamp pack. I'll wait.

Here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Primaris-Lieutenant-With-Power-Sword-2019

What do I win?

Also though, yeah maybe the supplement thing is valid for some, who for some reason can’t settle on an army or whatever.

But “carry around” all that. I mean, youre only going to be playing one of them at a time, so yeah you might buy all of them (valid as annoying sure), but you are carrying at Most,
Rules, Codex, Supplement. And anyone with sense, would jot down the relevant info from CA, but fine add it in too.

Judging the habits of other players, what they carry and bring with them to the store is a nice way of deflecting the fact that GW is expecting to break up content and rape your wallet for every penny they can get. "You're only going to be playing one at a time" isn't true either, allies is a thing and someone might want to play multiple books from the same codex, using different chapters.

Let me offer an example.

For me personally, I have to drive over 134 miles one way to go to my FLGS. I typically play 1 day per week on the weekend, and I must get up around 8:30 AM to reach the store by the time it opens at 11 am. To get the most out of my day, I usually stay until past 7 PM in order to get multiple games in. So if I want to play with BR, Dark Angels and Ultramarines on one day, I have to bring a Minimum of the Codex, Two Supplements, CA20XX, the Campaign book that has all my special formations in it, my game pieces, table mat, terrain, dice, etc.

There is no reason all of the above couldn't have been rolled into one book and set at a higher price tag to compensate.

1-2 more throw away board games, Adding Chaos to Existing Imperial Army, and new marine supplements. I bet those are the announcements.

 Togusa wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
The BRB, Codex Space Marines & 5-9 supplement books, two campaign books, 6 issues of white dwarf

Except A ) you need zero campaign books, first, because only one dealt with SM, second, because the stratagems were reprinted in new Codex, B ) I have no idea why you would need White Dwarf seeing both CF and BR* had their rules moved to new Codex, too, C ) while the supplements are kind of mild problem, most people will pick one chapter and stick to it. It's really only a problem for TFG who jumps traits constantly to tailor to opponent and if that will cut on this, maybe something good will come from that change.

*which is a shame because it shows how uninspired, lazy garbage the whole BR "focus" thing was but still, it means you only need Codex, sad as it is.

 Togusa wrote:
Find me a generic primaris lt that you can buy as a clamp pack. I'll wait.

Here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Primaris-Lieutenant-With-Power-Sword-2019

What do I win?

That's an ultramarine. You win nothing, I said GENERIC.

So, because I might like to try out different chapters that makes me TFG and not a gamer interested in playing with different builds and getting the most bang for buck out of my collection of models? Interesting.

If index chapters are getting reprinted in the book that's even worse as they've basically double charged you for your rules. BR just came out less than a month ago and for 9.99 and now you want me to spend 49.99 to get them again? LOL.

Oh wow, look at all those options and it only costs 35 USD!!! LOLOLOLOL.

That one is generic. There’s nothing Ultramarine specific about him.

Danny76 wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
The BRB, Codex Space Marines & 5-9 supplement books, two campaign books, 6 issues of white dwarf

Except A ) you need zero campaign books, first, because only one dealt with SM, second, because the stratagems were reprinted in new Codex, B ) I have no idea why you would need White Dwarf seeing both CF and BR* had their rules moved to new Codex, too, C ) while the supplements are kind of mild problem, most people will pick one chapter and stick to it. It's really only a problem for TFG who jumps traits constantly to tailor to opponent and if that will cut on this, maybe something good will come from that change.

*which is a shame because it shows how uninspired, lazy garbage the whole BR "focus" thing was but still, it means you only need Codex, sad as it is.

 Togusa wrote:
Find me a generic primaris lt that you can buy as a clamp pack. I'll wait.

Here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Primaris-Lieutenant-With-Power-Sword-2019

What do I win?

Also though, yeah maybe the supplement thing is valid for some, who for some reason can’t settle on an army or whatever.

But “carry around” all that. I mean, youre only going to be playing one of them at a time, so yeah you might buy all of them (valid as annoying sure), but you are carrying at Most,
Rules, Codex, Supplement. And anyone with sense, would jot down the relevant info from CA, but fine add it in too.


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Loads of people play BSF.
Look in the thread on here.
They are the people complaining they are getting priced out by expansions. Can’t get prices out if you aren’t playing it. (That’s a whole other issue to come)


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And also. That is a generic LT.
The Ultra stuff isn’t sculpted on him

I looked at it again, and I will agree it is generic. Only took two years too. Good job GW! Here is your Gold star and pat on the back!


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 Kirasu wrote:
1-2 more throw away board games, Adding Chaos to Existing Imperial Army, and new marine supplements. I bet those are the announcements.

Chaos is likely to get the same treatment. At least in terms of the chapter specific books and some of the rules. I'm willing to bet that Dark XXXX will get announced and once again Xenos players will twiddle their thumbs.