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Ragnar Blackmane hails from Second Edition and thinks Grotznik is wee young un.

Actually, Ragnar (and Njal in power armour) predates 2nd edition by a year. The Rune Priest in terminator armour is nearly as venerable. They're quite probably the oldest models in the 40k range right now.

Raven Guard and Iron Hands supplements next week, with their upgrades, characters and Eliminators.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/08/coming-next-week-iron-and-shadow/

 ImAGeek wrote:
Raven Guard and Iron Hands supplements next week, with their upgrades, characters and Supressors.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/08/coming-next-week-iron-and-shadow/

Eliminators, not Suppressors.

Suppressors are the jump packs with autocannons.

Also, HUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

That leaves:
Incursors/Infiltrators
Impulsor Anti-Grav El Camino

 Kanluwen wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Raven Guard and Iron Hands supplements next week, with their upgrades, characters and Supressors.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/08/coming-next-week-iron-and-shadow/

Eliminators, not Suppressors.

Suppressors are the jump packs with autocannons.

Also, HUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

That leaves:
Incursors/Infiltrators
Impulsor Anti-Grav El Camino

Cheers. I always get them mixed up for some reason.

Likely the idea that suppression would seemingly be more of a sniper-y deal(suppressive fire) and Eliminators would have big guns.

Beakies!

So does this add any credibility to the BT vs Orks box rumours?

GoatboyBeta wrote:
So does this add any credibility to the BT vs Orks box rumours?

No.

I can see that IH sprue being popular.

I play a custom chapter, but I need to get both of these sprues. So may good bits.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
So does this add any credibility to the BT vs Orks box rumours?

The opposite. Source that claimed box was happening also claimed that it was Salamanders and IF that would be next so looks like this is bogus.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
So does this add any credibility to the BT vs Orks box rumours?

Does the Dakka rumour correct/false rumour tracker thing still exist? Or has it been retired?

Sunny Side Up wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
So does this add any credibility to the BT vs Orks box rumours?

Does the Dakka rumour correct/false rumour tracker thing still exist? Or has it been retired?

I think Pretre gave up on it. Can't really blame him to be honest, as there isn't really a "set" rumormonger in many instances.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
So does this add any credibility to the BT vs Orks box rumours?

The opposite. Source that claimed box was happening also claimed that it was Salamanders and IF that would be next so looks like this is bogus.

Yeah just went back and re-watched Kirioth's videos. The original rumour was for IH and RG, but that got revised to IF and Salamanders. Still the pairing of the books was on the money.

GoatboyBeta wrote:

Yeah just went back and re-watched Kirioth's videos. The original rumour was for IH and RG, but that got revised to IF and Salamanders. Still the pairing of the books was on the money.

Whoop-de-doo. I mean there certainly were nigh infinite amount of possible combinations, it is virtually impossible that anyone could have just guessed it!

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
So does this add any credibility to the BT vs Orks box rumours?

The opposite. Source that claimed box was happening also claimed that it was Salamanders and IF that would be next so looks like this is bogus.

Yeah just went back and re-watched Kirioth's videos. The original rumour was for IH and RG, but that got revised to IF and Salamanders. Still the pairing of the books was on the money.

Cool, so do the people who noticed that the 'pairings' were just the layouts in the previous C: Space Marine's Chapter Traits get credit too?

The pairings that were mentioned, as soon as the White Scars book was announced to be coming with Ultramarines:
Ultramarines
White Scars

Sons of Dorn(Imperial Fists, Black Templars, Crimson Fists)
Salamanders

Raven Guard
Iron Hands


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 Crimson wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:

Yeah just went back and re-watched Kirioth's videos. The original rumour was for IH and RG, but that got revised to IF and Salamanders. Still the pairing of the books was on the money.

Whoop-de-doo. I mean there certainly were nigh infinite amount of possible combinations, it is virtually impossible that anyone could have just guessed it!

Super impossible, especially given that people pointed out it followed the pattern on p 195 of the previous Space Marines book.

An Actual Englishman wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
So does this add any credibility to the BT vs Orks box rumours?

The opposite. Source that claimed box was happening also claimed that it was Salamanders and IF that would be next so looks like this is bogus.

There were the messed up boxes of Salamanders dice with White Scars dice in them. so that may have changed the order up?

Hmm looks like a wait for a few more weeks for the sons of Dorn then. Ah well.

Those Ravenguard bare heads...

 Crimson wrote:
I play a custom chapter, but I need to get both of these sprues. So may good bits.

True, the little claw on the RG sprue is sublime. Now everyone can be styled-like Shrike! The heads, though...not that I am super against emo Marines, the more Shrike-like hair-over-one-eye looks okay, but the hair on the other head looks very rougly done. More like a really bad, lumpy wig. The IH stuff looks good, but bionic heads are easier to get than tiny raven . Love the studded shoulder pads, though.

For the Eliminators I hope they're not too expensive and have more possible pose variations than standing while aiming/pistol aiming, kneeling aiming/reloading and sarge with weapon down.

RambIing becausr I'm tired: I only own DI, Shadowspear, No Fear Primaris and a single box of Reivers to plunder for spare arms. Most of my monopose dudes were turned into Kill Teams of different chapters and I'm running out of the small pile of even minimarine bits I have. Though I was surprised just how much Astartes I - without trying - collected over the years with starter sets, Death Masque, Overkill, Space Hulk, Prospero...easily a full company and several squads of Termis on top. Geez. Too bad that most have those tiny stubby legs that GW told us for decades were normal I guess my nephews wouldn't mind them.

It's subtle, but I really like the helmeted Iron Hand head. It's creepy and so cool.

As predicted, we get a beaky primaris helmet. Just like with unhelmeted Stormcast, I wish we had gotten these heads sooner.

On the IH ltd ed cover, is that a Primaris (Tech?)Marine with a shield? Looks like GW have loosed the reigns on there artists.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
On the IH ltd ed cover, is that a Primaris (Tech?)Marine with a shield? Looks like GW have loosed the reigns on there artists.

It does appear to be a marine with sword and shield. Possibly some sort of Primaris assault marine, or just an artist with free reign.

It could also be a Relic option or a special Iron Hands unit to come down the line.

I don't think the rumour is completely debunked, it's possible the source was purposefully fed false information to reveal their identity or that they made an honest mistake.

It is definitely less likely though.

They also claimed that it wouldn't be a "Son's of Dorn" book, it would be IF (including CF) and Black Templars would follow in another, separate book of their own.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I don't think the rumour is completely debunked, it's possible the source was purposefully fed false information to reveal their identity or that they made an honest mistake.

It is definitely less likely though.

They also claimed that it wouldn't be a "Son's of Dorn" book, it would be IF (including CF) and Black Templars would follow in another, separate book of their own.

it's also possiable they changed the release order. I was in my local GW today and apparently we where supposed to get these pre-orders "last week" so GW clearly changed up their schedule for some reason


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 Crimson wrote:
Beakies!

yeah I noticed that too. they must have tweeked the neck of the helm as old beaky helms don't really fit

It has a neck and also Primaris-style “ears” that look like the regular Tacticus ones. A nice update.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
It has a neck and also Primaris-style “ears” that look like the regular Tacticus ones. A nice update.

think I'll grab a upgrade kit when it comes out for my stormcrows.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
It has a neck and also Primaris-style “ears” that look like the regular Tacticus ones. A nice update.

So the new beakie isn’t quite interchangeable with the old ones? That might require learning how to make molds.