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2019/08/30 14:11:27
Subject: NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
As this is technically the NOVA thread, although I'm in no doubt that this will disappear under a wave of posts about Shrike's helmet, here's a bunch of stuff that Steamforged announced for Guild Ball last night.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
How in the world do those Mason sculpts keep getting worse and worse with every rescuplt? Of the bunch, the only one I like is a Tower who is actually... towering.
2019/08/30 16:43:55
Subject: NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
I like Honour, Tower and Hammer over their existing standard sculpts, but most are the same as they already were? But then the Masons aren't really my thing from any angle.
I'm more baffled that they exist in resin at all given the KO box gives you those six and the Brewers (which were also in the seminar, just didn't nab a pic) for the same price (or much less in many cases) and get yourself all the tokens and a decent quality play surface.
Still, availability is a big issue so if this eases that then it's all fine with me.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The Shepherds look great though, could be tempted by them even though I'd officially closed the books on any new Guilds and never really felt like playing Farmers.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Mallet, Harmony, Vet Harmony, Brick, Chisel and Granite are all the same as their most recent. In the case of Brick I hope the detail is better, as its otherwise close enough to the original to be a wash. Mallet's pose is just awful though, especially compared to the (tiny) original and while Harmony really benefits from being in the right scale, her model is really flat and awkward compared to the metal.
Marbles looks better than the plastic, but feels off to me somehow. Honour is probably the one all around improvement. I really like that sculpt, though I have 3 of her already. Hammer oddly now looks like Tower, baring almost the exact same pose. What bugs me about it is that generally speaking I like that the old Guild Ball models had a sense of motion to them, but ever since the switch to plastic we've mostly had people standing around shaking their fists. Flint is baffling in this regard, as he's always been far more mobile.
The Masons just frustrate me because I love the character designs and the original sculpts are some of my favorite in the range, but they're so hilariously tiny (even compared to other early models) that they're hard to go with. The resculpts though have repeatedly disappointed me, simply because the game has lost so much of its sense of motion that made it look so great on the table despite not having many models or terrain elements for this very passive, 2D look.
2019/08/30 18:33:08
Subject: NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
Edit: Just showed Shrike to my wife, and she said 'Awww... It's My Chemical Raven Guard!'
When I was, a young scout, my Primarch, took me into the wastelands, to kill an Ork Warband.
He said, "son when, you grow up, will you be, the savior of the broken Imperium of Man?"
He said, "will you, defeat them, the daemons and all non believers; Heretic Astartes?
"because one day, I'll leave you a phantom, to lead you through the warp, to fight the Black Crusade"
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2019/08/30 19:05:13
Subject: NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
Yeah, I can see where you're coming from, but then the flip side is some of those sculpts were hilariously tricky to assemble (speaking as somebody with almost 30 years practice and zero issues with metal minis.) oMinx nearly stole my sanity with the hands attaching at the (tiny, tiny) wrists. I still marvel at how well Grace has held up in my bag, especially as she's spent so much time in there until the last errata! Then there were the models that had tiny contact points on the base like the first Mist, who will happily fall over to a gentle draft. I've got the resin alt thankfully, both scaled up and with plenty of motion thanks to the cape/rags.
Even recently, Yukai being stood in that very interesting, albeit (deliberately) static, pose meant I had to run a pin through an ankle joint barely wider than the pin up to their knee.
I have to confess though most of the alt sculpts in the resin rereleases haven't really compelled me to ditch my metals. I'd like a replacement for Angel and the two Sirens from the Fishermen, but not with the same drive that I had to have the Shark in the KS pose.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Edit: Just showed Shrike to my wife, and she said 'Awww... It's My Chemical Raven Guard!'
When I was, a young scout, my Primarch, took me into the wastelands, to kill an Ork Warband.
He said, "son when, you grow up, will you be, the savior of the broken Imperium of Man?"
He said, "will you, defeat them, the daemons and all non believers; Heretic Astartes?
"because one day, I'll leave you a phantom, to lead you through the warp, to fight the Black Crusade"
Why be salty, when you could be exalty!
Nice one
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
Guys, people who don't like or listen to music you'd consider 'emo' also have fringes. Oh em gee, right? I've seen popular jocky types with hair like that right down to stoner wasters.
Marine heads with hair that aren't the weird space wolves ones or crappy BA bowl cuts is to be commended. Not everyone's a fan of those ridiculous tiny mohawks (what space marine is really cultivating that? They'd either shave it all or grow it).
The short mohawks were probably inspired by American airborne troops in WW2. Many of them sported mohawks and warpaint when dropping into Normandy.
2019/08/30 21:46:34
Subject: NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
insaniak wrote: I suspect that there will be a lot of conversions with the helmet on...
Have they said whether its an option or not?
Dunno, but if it is, they'll have to have something to fill in the divet that the helmet on his belt no doubt sits in.
Im slightly disappointed in the Warcry announcement. It feels too much like Commanders for Killteam, at least at first glance. I do like the option to hunt giant monsters though, those will no doubt be fun missions, even more so if you're fighting a rival warband while trying to kill a beast.
Otherwise, the releases all look interesting at least.
Would have hoped to see more about Psychic Awakening for 40k, sort of an anemic announcement.
Theory: Someone played Energy Drain at a critical juncture...
Irbis wrote: Dunno why people whine about new model. Haircut? Seriously? You guys know most chapters have their own traditional ones? I like how primaris range tries to diversify marines and make them look like actual distinct groups, small loud minority (that curiously enough bleated about primaris being 'too bland' before) complains about them being too different now
What are you blathering on about? The vast majority of Primaris models released thus far are generic as feth - exceptions currently are four special characters, one special unit (Calgar's Drinking Buddies) and five members of the Legion of Lieutenants (whose decoder rings are in the post).
sockwithaticket wrote: I'm just a bit amused and bemused by the amount of focus this is getting and that it's seen as a negative rather than just a thing that is.
Probably because, for someone who is meant to lead a thousand elite soldiers, looking like a sulky angst-ridden teen is a poor choice - even ignoring the possibility of it impeding his vision.
It's not a look that screams "leader of men", now, is it?
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
2019/08/30 22:03:59
Subject: NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
Probably because, for someone who is meant to lead a thousand elite soldiers, looking like a sulky angst-ridden teen is a poor choice - even ignoring the possibility of it impeding his vision.
It's not a look that screams "leader of men", now, is it?
That would sort of depend on what the men he leads look like, no?
2019/08/30 22:06:33
Subject: NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
Probably because, for someone who is meant to lead a thousand elite soldiers, looking like a sulky angst-ridden teen is a poor choice - even ignoring the possibility of it impeding his vision.
It's not a look that screams "leader of men", now, is it?
That would sort of depend on what the men he leads look like, no?
I don't fear the army of lions led by a sheep, i fear the army of sheeps led by a lion.
In essence, he could lead the custodes and still would fail if his look is anything to go by.
Ofcourse maybee he is a follower of Sun tzu which bases all warfare on deception and the hair is artificial.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/08/30 22:35:07
Subject: NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
Artificial hair would make the canon work. He never has to adjust it because it can be as stiff as needed. That or he has an attendant hairspray servo skull.
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2019/08/30 22:36:21
Subject: Re:NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
even ignoring the possibility of it impeding his vision.
Funny how realism only crops up to complain about a model someone doesn't like, but otherwise the absurdly impractical and downright horrible 40k designs get a pass based on "grimdark aesthetic".
The short mohawks were probably inspired by American airborne troops in WW2.
Surely they'd be inspired by the same source the WW2 americans were inspired by, namely the native warriors which sported the cut?
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2019/08/30 23:07:59
Subject: NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
even ignoring the possibility of it impeding his vision.
Funny how realism only crops up to complain about a model someone doesn't like, but otherwise the absurdly impractical and downright horrible 40k designs get a pass based on "grimdark aesthetic".
Now now. If there’s one thing that gamers know about, it’s personal style.
Probably because, for someone who is meant to lead a thousand elite soldiers, looking like a sulky angst-ridden teen is a poor choice - even ignoring the possibility of it impeding his vision.
It's not a look that screams "leader of men", now, is it?
That would sort of depend on what the men he leads look like, no?
I don't fear the army of lions led by a sheep, i fear the army of sheeps led by a lion.
In essence, he could lead the custodes and still would fail if his look is anything to go by.
Ofcourse maybee he is a follower of Sun tzu which bases all warfare on deception and the hair is artificial.
The answer is simple. When around his men, he always has his helmet on. The helmet only comes off if he needs to distract his enemies
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/08/30 23:59:04
Subject: NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
still think the move into all resin all the time is a bad call by SFG, yes the models are nice but being a niche game where is buy in is now on par with the Geedubs seems a little questionable, the metals where about the same but the three man starters and then singles reduced sticker shock a fair bit
I like a couple of the new alchemist sculpts but wont be getting a box and then have to faff with the trade page or ebay to offload the rest
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"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
2019/08/31 08:55:27
Subject: Re:NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
ekwatts wrote: The haircut sported by a genetically modified supersoldier 38,000 years in a theoretical future where literal demons live in an accessible quantum realm is unrealistic and impractical.
Got it.
This has never been nor will it ever be a compelling argument.
As always, it's the smaller things that we know don't make sense that break SOD in fantastical worlds.
yeah. such a lame argument. Similar to the aos fans claiming ''its magic''' to justify all the silly models
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2019/08/31 09:09:30
Subject: Re:NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
ekwatts wrote: The haircut sported by a genetically modified supersoldier 38,000 years in a theoretical future where literal demons live in an accessible quantum realm is unrealistic and impractical.
Got it.
This has never been nor will it ever be a compelling argument.
As always, it's the smaller things that we know don't make sense that break SOD in fantastical worlds.
except it is a fair arguement because unrealistic hairstyles in 40k are pretty common.. I mean... exhibit A B C and... hell the whole bloody Alphabet. the space wolves
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2019/08/31 09:34:14
Subject: NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
Probably because, for someone who is meant to lead a thousand elite soldiers, looking like a sulky angst-ridden teen is a poor choice - even ignoring the possibility of it impeding his vision.
It's not a look that screams "leader of men", now, is it?
That would sort of depend on what the men he leads look like, no?
I don't fear the army of lions led by a sheep, i fear the army of sheeps led by a lion.
In essence, he could lead the custodes and still would fail if his look is anything to go by.
Ofcourse maybee he is a follower of Sun tzu which bases all warfare on deception and the hair is artificial.
The answer is simple. When around his men, he always has his helmet on. The helmet only comes off if he needs to distract his enemies
Tactical artificial combat wig.
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For deception purposes only.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/08/31 09:40:12
Subject: NOVA Open compilation thread. OP updated with juicy pics
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