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tneva82 wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/02/new-reveals-chaos-sororitas-tanks-and-moregw-homepage-post-1/

don't think there's separate chaos supplement by the sound of it. More like the PA2 contains the chaos legion rules for specified legions. Plus black templars

Indeed. Apologies, was only passing on.

But hey, the equivalent, possibly in a single volume is no bad thing!

Oooh new exorcist. Looks a little squat, but still nice to see.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
No link I’m afraid. Local gaming clubs private messages on FB.

Source is trustworthy though.

Also, for clarity, multiple Legions are apparently being covered in Codex Supplements. Original post was a bit poorly worded and misleading.

From Warhammer Community:

This tome will see the Psychic Awakening’s effects begin to take hold in the Imperium, as the Emperor’s most faithful warriors go head to head with the Heretic Astartes. What’s more, the book will include codex supplement-tier content for the Black Templars, Night Lords, Alpha Legion, World Eaters, Emperor’s Children, Iron Warriors and Word Bearers.

No separate supplements as they'll all be in Faith & Fury.

Tanks are awesome!

But.... just Sisters and Black Templars vs 2/3 of the CSM?

You of little faith. No need to fear the force of Chaos, The Emperor Protects!

Also, there are way more Sister of Battle than Chaos marines.

my guess is that each of the chaos legioons will get a half dozen strats, warlord traits maybe psykic powers. etc. they won't get doctrine abilities as CSMs lack doctrines

Does that chaos sorcerer have a psychic hood???

No rules updates for the bestest sm chapter of them all , the emperors favorite son weeps. ;_;
At least we got a sneak peak at the new Mephiston model, so thats something..

Or GW can assure sales by adding a Doctrine equivalent.


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nagash42 wrote:
Does that chaos sorcerer have a psychic hood???

Either that or a literal Brain Weasel?

The Chaos Sorcerer looks good but hope it comes with an optional helmet.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/02/new-reveals-chaos-sororitas-tanks-and-moregw-homepage-post-1/

don't think there's separate chaos supplement by the sound of it. More like the PA2 contains the chaos legion rules for specified legions. Plus black templars

Indeed. Apologies, was only passing on.

But hey, the equivalent, possibly in a single volume is no bad thing!

Oh absolutely. One book rather than multiples can easily be better option to begin with. No complaining from me if we get by 1 book purchase rather than 9! ;D well unless price is like 8x one book...

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Supplement-tier rules? Hell yes. Sorcerer model is nice too. Let's hope the Word Bearers get rues befitting the blokes on the cover of the book.

Hopefully that means new legion traits and maybe even some combat-doctrine equivalent...

but I doubt it.

Weren't the supplement rules for Eldar in the previous Psychic Awakening book lackluster though? I'm not sure supplement-tier is that high of a standard.

Hey, if the rules are OK and I can have both my BT and WE armies updated at once I won't complain (for once)!

drbored wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Supplement-tier rules? Hell yes. Sorcerer model is nice too. Let's hope the Word Bearers get rues befitting the blokes on the cover of the book.

Hopefully that means new legion traits and maybe even some combat-doctrine equivalent...

but I doubt it.

It'll be similer to what black legion got in vigilius.

Well we can hope for a bit more but yeah i expect more along the lines of bl, rather then "propper" supplements.

drbored wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Supplement-tier rules? Hell yes. Sorcerer model is nice too. Let's hope the Word Bearers get rues befitting the blokes on the cover of the book.

Hopefully that means new legion traits and maybe even some combat-doctrine equivalent...

but I doubt it.

Rumours so far just say Warlord traits, Stratagems, and Relics for each of the Legions involved. If it matches what the BL got in Vigilus then I'll be happy (although I'd kill for a new WB trait)

Supplement tier, besides ultramarines who had a bunch of legacy units and characters, would basically be a page of relics, a page of special issue wargear, 1 or 2 pages of stratagems, a page of psychic powers or chaplain chants, and a page of warlord traits and tactical objectives. Plus a page explaining who can take what. Around 6 pages overall, per force.

So the chances for new models for the Emperor Children's Noise Marines are
about zero right?
I cannot say I am that excited about a supplement which after all
these years just deliver a few rules... and almost obliterate chances for a
proper codex.

Yet.

Nothing yet?

Perhaps wait and see is the sensible move.

Doesn't obliterate chances for a full EC release at all. GW are quite happy to supersede rules immediately after release (remember the 2016 TL supplement that was gone in 6 months). EC will come, be patient

mortar_crew wrote:
So the chances for new models for the Emperor Children's Noise Marines are
about zero right?
I cannot say I am that excited about a supplement which after all
these years just deliver a few rules... and almost obliterate chances for a
proper codex.

as soon as we have proper rules for EC noise marines (clear rules + relevant with new Bolter Discipline etc)
My dream would be an updated profile.

Chaos won't get Legion rules on their vehicles though, watch. I'm calling it.

mortar_crew wrote:
So the chances for new models for the Emperor Children's Noise Marines are
about zero right?
I cannot say I am that excited about a supplement which after all
these years just deliver a few rules... and almost obliterate chances for a
proper codex.

It significantly lowers them, as they'll move on to the next however many more PA 'theme' books there are.

I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, a single supplement is much more manageable than the nightmare of balance and nonsense that afflict the individual SM supplements. (As well as $30 for roughly 8 pages of rules each, except UM)
On the other, it does shove proper treatment of EC and WE to the back burner.

But a book and squirting out a random model or two here or there is unimpressive.

Which reminds me... hello Mr Generic Sorcerer. You're (barely) better than the current failcast sorcerer, but lack any sort of character or interest. The dark apostle and his wonderful minions are pleased you weren't release alongside them, it would have been embarrassing.

Maybe he comes with a cool helmet to make him less bland?

 1hadhq wrote:
Tanks are awesome!

But.... just Sisters and Black Templars vs 2/3 of the CSM?

Well given the fluff over the years it could be that the Black Templar’s turn up in legion strength plus they have close ties to the SoB and since they all ready have rules nothing stops the Phlanax and the rest of the sons of dorn dropping in to say hi in the fluff.

Reliable rumours mongers already told us everything. Stop dreaming about an EC release or a WE release. It's not coming soon.

Also stop dreaming about the equivalent of Combat Doctrines for SMC.

Again, we already know there will be NO modification to Traits in PA2 for SMC.

Everything the rumours mongers told us was true up until now : new Mephiston model, new Chaos sorcerer model, PA2 BT vs SMC and new rules for every SMC Legion beside BL and Renegades because of Vigilus. They also clearly said NO NEW TRAITS.

So stop dreaming and accept the truth already.

EC and WE codices will come out when the primarchs for those two legions do.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe he comes with a cool helmet to make him less bland?

I'm thinking a terror squad head and a jump pack would make him a pretty good night lords librarian.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
EC and WE codices will come out when the primarchs for those two legions do.

But I think this release puts them really far out compared to what we thought before..