Psychic Awakening N&R - FAQs p.183.

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**Red__Thirst**

I personally am stoked to get BA brought into line with the rest of their marine cousins with Doctrines and Litanites.

I've also heard a rumor (completely unverified) that the Red Thirst rule will be amended in Chapter Approved to give Blood Angels a +1 to wound in addition to a +1 to charge and advance rolls.

If true, coupled with the Canticle of Hate (+2 to charge rolls) litany from a Chaplain, you could deepstrike or Upon Wings of Fire stratagem re-deploy a squad of Death Company further than 9" away and with the Litany and Red Thirst bonus, be able to make it within an inch of your target(s) on a charge roll of 6+.

Me likey. Me likey a lot.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

**Marshal Loss**

Have any spoilers dropped about PA3's story yet?

**Nightlord1987**

I think, just for the funsies, I wanna turn my unpainted Intercessors into Death Company. Back them with my unpainted Scouts.Then add in a Radical Inquisitor.

I do love painting red.

**Imateria**

Red__Thirst wrote:
I personally am stoked to get BA brought into line with the rest of their marine cousins with Doctrines and Litanites.

I've also heard a rumor (completely unverified) that the Red Thirst rule will be amended in Chapter Approved to give Blood Angels a +1 to wound in addition to a +1 to charge and advance rolls.

If true, coupled with the Canticle of Hate (+2 to charge rolls) litany from a Chaplain, you could deepstrike or Upon Wings of Fire stratagem re-deploy a squad of Death Company further than 9" away and with the Litany and Red Thirst bonus, be able to make it within an inch of your target(s) on a charge roll of 6+.

Me likey. Me likey a lot.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Nothing to do with Chapter Approved, but thats what Red Thirst does now.

**Sunny Side Up**

Red__Thirst wrote:
I personally am stoked to get BA brought into line with the rest of their marine cousins with Doctrines and Litanites.

I've also heard a rumor (completely unverified) that the Red Thirst rule will be amended in Chapter Approved to give Blood Angels a +1 to wound in addition to a +1 to charge and advance rolls.

If true, coupled with the Canticle of Hate (+2 to charge rolls) litany from a Chaplain, you could deepstrike or Upon Wings of Fire stratagem re-deploy a squad of Death Company further than 9" away and with the Litany and Red Thirst bonus, be able to make it within an inch of your target(s) on a charge roll of 6+.

Me likey. Me likey a lot.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Red Thirst is already +1 to wound and +1 advance/charge

On the other hand, the Chaplain Canticle doesn't stack with any other charge bonuses from Chapter Traits, Warlord Traits, Stratagems, Psychic Powers, etc..

**Red__Thirst**

When did Red Thirst change to have +1 to Charge & Advance along with +1 to wound???

I didn't get that particular memo. Where was it published?

Forgive my ignorance, I only found out about it last week.

Also the Litany not stacking with the bonus movement does make sense. I figured it was going to work that way but a man can dream, at least.

Thanks. Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

**VictorVonTzeentch**

Red__Thirst wrote:
When did Red Thirst change to have +1 to Charge & Advance along with +1 to wound???

I didn't get that particular memo. Where was it published?

Forgive my ignorance, I only found out about it last week.

Also the Litany not stacking with the bonus movement does make sense. I figured it was going to work that way but a man can dream, at least.

Thanks. Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Its in the as of yet unreleased PA3.

**Drager**

I'm looking at my copy of Phoenix Rising. I'm reading my pages for Dark Eldar. My mind wanders to what other factions are getting, and I sigh. Once again, we are left holding only wrapping paper; filled with a broken promise and shattered dreams.

Right now, I can feel the anguish of the Tyranid players as they look upon the Blood of Baal. I can't help but envy them their paltry offering, despite the sympathy I feel. Oh, what I would give for one stratagem or a relic. It doesn't have to be both.

I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.

So it is, with these thoughts in hand, I open a review of chapter approved. After listening to the points reductions for other armies, I learn that our only vehicle is to be increased in price. With a heavy heart, I shut off the stream and glance at my ravagers, already discarded after earlier rounds of weakening before this price rise. It seems their time is done and Venoms are all that are left to us now.

Next time, that fragile hope whispers in my heart, next time they'll remember you.

**BrianDavion**

I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.

... what space marine players have cried for more?

**Arachnofiend**

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
AlmightyWalrus wrote:
"Each book will be accompanied by an epic champion". Except if you're Chaos or Black Templars, because you're only getting a generic Chaos Sorcerer.

Generic character > special character.
I wish Junith Eruita was just a generic character!

What's funny is that when Vigilus Burns came out many (including myself) chaos players were annoyed that the jump pack chaos lord was a Black Legion specific unit and not just a jump pack chaos lord.

**xttz**

Drager wrote:
I'm looking at my copy of Phoenix Rising. I'm reading my pages for Dark Eldar. My mind wanders to what other factions are getting, and I sigh. Once again, we are left holding only wrapping paper; filled with a broken promise and shattered dreams.

Right now, I can feel the anguish of the Tyranid players as they look upon the Blood of Baal. I can't help but envy them their paltry offering, despite the sympathy I feel. Oh, what I would give for one stratagem or a relic. It doesn't have to be both.

I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.

So it is, with these thoughts in hand, I open a review of chapter approved. After listening to the points reductions for other armies, I learn that our only vehicle is to be increased in price. With a heavy heart, I shut off the stream and glance at my ravagers, already discarded after earlier rounds of weakening before this price rise. It seems their time is done and Venoms are all that are left to us now.

Next time, that fragile hope whispers in my heart, next time they'll remember you.

This post is giving me so much power from pain

**Not Online!!!**

xttz wrote:
Drager wrote:
I'm looking at my copy of Phoenix Rising. I'm reading my pages for Dark Eldar. My mind wanders to what other factions are getting, and I sigh. Once again, we are left holding only wrapping paper; filled with a broken promise and shattered dreams.

Right now, I can feel the anguish of the Tyranid players as they look upon the Blood of Baal. I can't help but envy them their paltry offering, despite the sympathy I feel. Oh, what I would give for one stratagem or a relic. It doesn't have to be both.

I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.

So it is, with these thoughts in hand, I open a review of chapter approved. After listening to the points reductions for other armies, I learn that our only vehicle is to be increased in price. With a heavy heart, I shut off the stream and glance at my ravagers, already discarded after earlier rounds of weakening before this price rise. It seems their time is done and Venoms are all that are left to us now.

Next time, that fragile hope whispers in my heart, next time they'll remember you.

This post is giving me so much power from pain

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*Sound of another shovel snapped in half

**Snrub**

So apologies if this is known/debunked/whatever, as I haven't following events, but is there/has there been any rumours of a new Eldar Avatar coming?

I noticed on the GW site a bit of art with the avatar fighting marines and didn't recognise it. Its almost identical to the FW avatar, but not exact. And we all know how GW are with their art-match-model nonsense these days.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

Arachnofiend wrote:
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
AlmightyWalrus wrote:
"Each book will be accompanied by an epic champion". Except if you're Chaos or Black Templars, because you're only getting a generic Chaos Sorcerer.

Generic character > special character.
I wish Junith Eruita was just a generic character!

What's funny is that when Vigilus Burns came out many (including myself) chaos players were annoyed that the jump pack chaos lord was a Black Legion specific unit and not just a jump pack chaos lord.

I'm not sure what's funny about it, but I 100% agree with your sentiment.

**JSG**

Snrub wrote:
So apologies if this is known/debunked/whatever, as I haven't following events, but is there/has there been any rumours of a new Eldar Avatar coming?

I noticed on the GW site a bit of art with the avatar fighting marines and didn't recognise it. Its almost identical to the FW avatar, but not exact. And we all know how GW are with their art-match-model nonsense these days.

Despite what experts on the internet say, GW are kinda lax about it. There are plenty of examples of recent artwork that aren't of miniatures. I would like a new avatar mini though.

**SamusDrake**

They'll probably start updating the Eldar range from resin next year, much like they did Chaos this year. Kill Team is also long over due for a Craftworld faction boxset...

Expanding Codex: Harliquins to Codex: Ynnari would be a good move by Games Workshop to launch that range, because the Psychic Awakening series is not going to remain in print for as long as the codex books, and players will be back to square one asking "which codex do I need for a Ynnari army?". The Harliquins make for a good Kill Team, but sorely lacking as a 40K army needing to borrow units from the Craftworlds and Drukhari for any serious muscle. Unless one loves painting the same models over-and-over again, the Harliquins don't really go much further than a patrol detachment...

**Earth127**

We've been hoping for an end to (eldar) Resin for years.

**bullyboy**

The avatar art is not new, it appeared (at least first time I saw it) in the Deathwatch Codex.

**Mr Morden**

BrianDavion wrote:
I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.

... what space marine players have cried for more?

A myriad of Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Wolves when the other endless flood of marine updates came out - "where is ours!" ad nauseum.

Others asking for more new Marines,

new Primaris Marines

New Marines

After all having a vast bloated range, always being added to by GW and FW is not nearly enough.

**JWBS**

I want some Primaris Terminators.

**Jidmah**

I want some Primaris Orks.

**bullyboy**

New Dark Angel character (model, not rules), new Space Wolf character (model, not, rules). As a Deathwatch player too, I'm good with models, just give us access to a Vanguard kill team.
However, despite what people decry, these are not unreasonable requests. Azrael and Ezekiel both hark back to 2nd edition. Of the 2, Azrael needs the update most simply because he is tiny. I would prefer Ezekiel myself as many people have just converted Azrael out of the new DA Lt.

**SamusDrake**

JWBS wrote:
I want some Primaris Terminators.

Never played them but the Aggressor look like the Primaris replacement for the Terminator.

**Galas**

Mr Morden wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.

... what space marine players have cried for more?

A myriad of Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Wolves when the other endless flood of marine updates came out - "where is ours!" ad nauseum.

Others asking for more new Marines,

new Primaris Marines

New Marines

After all having a vast bloated range, always being added to by GW and FW is not nearly enough.

Oh give me a break! We are paying for the continued existence of all of your armies and GW as a whole. You should be gratefull GW throws a bone to you plebs once in a while.

And unlike some GK players you haven't seem me complaint about Dark Angels being the worst army of the game for more than 1 year now. (Yes, GK and Tyranids have more winrate than DA)

**Not Online!!!**

JWBS wrote:
I want some Primaris Terminators.

Spoiler:

I can allready see the pricetag. 3 for 55CHF.

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Galas wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.

... what space marine players have cried for more?

A myriad of Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Wolves when the other endless flood of marine updates came out - "where is ours!" ad nauseum.

Others asking for more new Marines,

new Primaris Marines

New Marines

After all having a vast bloated range, always being added to by GW and FW is not nearly enough.

Oh give me a break! We are paying for the continued existence of all of your armies and GW as a whole. You should be gratefull GW throws a bone to you plebs once in a while.

you see, if GW would actually invest sometimes in factions with units older then you are probably then GW wouldn't need to have so many SM kits to carry them...

**Sunny Side Up**

I'd prefer Primaris Centurions

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

Galas wrote:
We are paying for the continued existence of all of your armies and GW as a whole.

You are paying for the models you want to pay for.
I mean, GW could have been paid for by selling more SoB boxes if they had made more.

Galas wrote:
And unlike some GK players you haven't seem me complaint about Dark Angels being the worst army of the game for more than 1 year now. (Yes, GK and Tyranids have more winrate than DA)

I see you doing it right now!

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Primaris Knight. Get it going, Cawl, we need betterer more dakkaer more stronger more durabler imperial knights!!!

**DominayTrix**

BrianDavion wrote:
I hear a Space Marine player lament something, but I can't listen. I can't bring myself to be jealous, even, of the shining pile of gifts they have received. It is their lot, as the chosen, to be granted such lavish attention and then cry for more. I will turn away lest they see my face and call for the purging of my army once more.

... what space marine players have cried for more?

Queue David Attenborough voice.
You have a few common flavors of marine complainer:

Spoiler:

Hopefully this should help cover most of them for you. A lot of them have generic versions that come out of players from every army, but these are probably the most relevant without calling out people by naming them directly.

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Edit: If we are wishlisting, I'd settle for non-primaris models that don't come in a boxset.

**JWBS**

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Primaris Knight. Get it going, Cawl, we need betterer more dakkaer more stronger more durabler imperial knights!!!

Would they be inexplicably naive? Would they be shunned by Knightlet pilots due to suspicion or jealousy? I like the idea of Primariknights but we'd really have to cuck them in some way to avoid upsetting Knightlet players too much. Simply upscaling Knights and telling Knightlet players that Knights look like this now would be very foolish.

**MajorWesJanson**

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

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Primaris Knight. Get it going, Cawl, we need betterer more dakkaer more stronger more durabler imperial knights!!!

It's called a warhound titan. Plastic please, and then maybe it would be dropped in points to what it is actually worth.