Psychic Awakening N&R - FAQs p.183.

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**Kanluwen**

GaroRobe wrote:
New Valrak vid hints that the DA we will get is a guy named Lazarus. Who was recently introduced in the lore. And hates Thousand Sons with a passion.

Wow, is he going to guess our weights after we step on a scale too?

**GaroRobe**

Kanluwen wrote:
GaroRobe wrote:
New Valrak vid hints that the DA we will get is a guy named Lazarus. Who was recently introduced in the lore. And hates Thousand Sons with a passion.

Wow, is he going to guess our weights after we step on a scale too?

Its less random guessing and more so he was sent some of those GW PA stories that get published online, before they were released. The Grey Knight one and the DA one. Plus, Lazarus fits into the current theme of Primaris releases. The characters are either already established or have popped up in lore in recent years. Kind of surprising they killed off the Dark Vengenace model to replace him with this guy, but the fact that they specified he hates Thousand Sons seems to indicate we'll be getting him.

**JSG**

Kanluwen wrote:
GaroRobe wrote:
New Valrak vid hints that the DA we will get is a guy named Lazarus. Who was recently introduced in the lore. And hates Thousand Sons with a passion.

Wow, is he going to guess our weights after we step on a scale too?

Did you know what the short stories were and what the character would be before he leaked it? Most people thought we'd have a "reborn" DA and a new character for PA5.

**Voss**

JSG wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
GaroRobe wrote:
New Valrak vid hints that the DA we will get is a guy named Lazarus. Who was recently introduced in the lore. And hates Thousand Sons with a passion.

Wow, is he going to guess our weights after we step on a scale too?

Did you know what the short stories were and what the character would be before he leaked it? Most people thought we'd have a "reborn" DA and a new character for PA5.

Yes. That the DA character was going to be a newbody from some recent fluff piece and not a classic character came up... a month ago? More?
You can dig back in this thread if you really want to, but this isn't a surprise.

I'm not particularly convinced that knowing what the 'stories' were is useful or relevant. Certainly not in advance, and not particularly after reading them. Magnus is bad and doing bad things, and GK can have one-on-one psychic duels with primarchs and be fine, and are indifferent to human life. Yay!

**JSG**

Voss wrote:
JSG wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
GaroRobe wrote:
New Valrak vid hints that the DA we will get is a guy named Lazarus. Who was recently introduced in the lore. And hates Thousand Sons with a passion.

Wow, is he going to guess our weights after we step on a scale too?

Did you know what the short stories were and what the character would be before he leaked it? Most people thought we'd have a "reborn" DA and a new character for PA5.

Yes. That the DA character was going to be a newbody from some recent fluff piece and not a classic character came up... a month ago? More?
You can dig back in this thread if you really want to, but this isn't a surprise.

I'm not particularly convinced that knowing what the 'stories' were is useful or relevant. Certainly not in advance, and not particularly after reading them. Magnus is bad and doing bad things, and GK can have one-on-one psychic duels with primarchs and be fine, and are indifferent to human life. Yay!

He was brought up as a rumour or "it might be that guy mentioned in WD"? The second story is interesting because it confirms Lazarus. Supposedly.

**NinthMusketeer**

Psychic duel with a primarch? Magnus just psychic bitch-slapped him, that wasn't a duel. And it was just Magnus from a potential future that hasn't happened yet!

**Voss**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
Psychic duel with a primarch? Magnus just psychic bitch-slapped him, that wasn't a duel. And it was just Magnus from a potential future that hasn't happened yet!

Did you not notice the multiple paragraphs of psychic pressure and rejection through reciting articles of faith? Which stilled or quieted the warp presence, and the specific note that nothing had invaded the sanctum in such and such years? That back and forth went on for quite a while.

Call it whatever you want, but it looked like a contest of wills and warp abilities to me.

**MrMoustaffa**

Voss wrote:
NinthMusketeer wrote:
Psychic duel with a primarch? Magnus just psychic bitch-slapped him, that wasn't a duel. And it was just Magnus from a potential future that hasn't happened yet!

Did you not notice the multiple paragraphs of psychic pressure and rejection through reciting articles of faith? Which stilled or quieted the warp presence, and the specific note that nothing had invaded the sanctum in such and such years? That back and forth went on for quite a while.

Call it whatever you want, but it looked like a contest of wills and warp abilities to me.

Spoiler:

**Grimgold**

Since there is a dearth of new info on PA RotD, Wild baseless conspiracy time, maybe lazarus is balthazar and the DA faked his death to protect him from the consequences of killing a DW kill team to steal a xeno artifact. The name would make more sense, because of that whole coming back from the dead.

**Lord Perversor**

Grimgold wrote:
Since there is a dearth of new info on PA RotD, Wild baseless conspiracy time, maybe lazarus is balthazar and the DA faked his death to protect him from the consequences of killing a DW kill team to steal a xeno artifact. The name would make more sense, because of that whole coming back from the dead.

Or just go wild with the coming back theories.

Lazarus it's the code name for the testing versions of the codex while the new model is Lion itself here we go down the rabbit hole.

**Apple Peel**

Voss wrote:
NinthMusketeer wrote:
Psychic duel with a primarch? Magnus just psychic bitch-slapped him, that wasn't a duel. And it was just Magnus from a potential future that hasn't happened yet!

Did you not notice the multiple paragraphs of psychic pressure and rejection through reciting articles of faith? Which stilled or quieted the warp presence, and the specific note that nothing had invaded the sanctum in such and such years? That back and forth went on for quite a while.

Call it whatever you want, but it looked like a contest of wills and warp abilities to me.

The ending gave me the impression that if it was Magnus, then he was just toying with the Grey Knight. Letting him have little ‘perceived’ victories.

**_SeeD_**

I would be satisfied if DA got a new model and GK got rules changes.

**aracersss**

any news from PA4?

**Benionin**

In terms of making wild predictions the day before the full reveal, here are my guesses:

DA will get fairly minimal coverage, Doctrines and the new character. If we're lucky, the Fallen will get some rules, although after much thought I have no idea what they would need to be able to field an army.

TS will get some fancy sorcery themed flavor add-ons, possibly another psychic discipline because they really needed to have 24 powers instead of 18 to choose from.

And, in an opinion that seems to go counter to what most people in this thread are guessing (calling this the DA supplement and all), I'm guessing that the Grey Knights will actually be the headliners of this book, getting updated rules, doctrines, etc.

**bullyboy**

Let's be honest here, can Grey Knights use all of the new Primaris kits? No, so the meat of the book will be dedicated to DA who can utilize all that new plastic crack.

**alextroy**

bullyboy as a very valid point. Dark Angels will have to take up close to the same space as Blood Angels did in there book because the majority of that space is datasheet after datasheet of Primaris models added to Codex Space Marines (Models with updated rules, Vanguard Space Marines, Repulsor Executioner). The Dark Angels will get all that also.

**Brian888**

I’m a die-hard TS fan, but in the spirit of the season, I hope that the GK get the bulk of the rules in PA4. They really, really need it.

**bullyboy**

what would be nice is if this book was a little bigger than the previous ones with full expansion to DAs, a significant boost to GK and some cool new toys for TS.

**BrianDavion**

alextroy wrote:
bullyboy as a very valid point. Dark Angels will have to take up close to the same space as Blood Angels did in there book because the majority of that space is datasheet after datasheet of Primaris models added to Codex Space Marines (Models with updated rules, Vanguard Space Marines, Repulsor Executioner). The Dark Angels will get all that also.

they will, but once all that is done, how much NEW stuff with dark angels get? unlike blood angels, the dark angels don't even have a famous sucessor chapter to get some screen time

**An Actual Englishman**

BrianDavion wrote:
alextroy wrote:
bullyboy as a very valid point. Dark Angels will have to take up close to the same space as Blood Angels did in there book because the majority of that space is datasheet after datasheet of Primaris models added to Codex Space Marines (Models with updated rules, Vanguard Space Marines, Repulsor Executioner). The Dark Angels will get all that also.

they will, but once all that is done, how much NEW stuff with dark angels get? unlike blood angels, the dark angels don't even have a famous sucessor chapter to get some screen time

Did I read you right? After all that new stuff is done how much more new stuff will DA get? None, ideally. A codex supplement is already way more than most.

**Mr Morden**

Benionin wrote:
In terms of making wild predictions the day before the full reveal, here are my guesses:

DA will get fairly minimal coverage, Doctrines and the new character. If we're lucky, the Fallen will get some rules, although after much thought I have no idea what they would need to be able to field an army.

TS will get some fancy sorcery themed flavor add-ons, possibly another psychic discipline because they really needed to have 24 powers instead of 18 to choose from.

And, in an opinion that seems to go counter to what most people in this thread are guessing (calling this the DA supplement and all), I'm guessing that the Grey Knights will actually be the headliners of this book, getting updated rules, doctrines, etc.

DA will get what BA got - so most of the book, and they even have a new boxed set - The re-released Dark Vengeance models

Also likely the character model for the book (plus super doctrine and loads of Primaris. "Minimal" is only by comparsion to non-marine factions.

**Apple Peel**

So presumably, the new Dark Angel content is what BA got and updated data sheets/new Primaris unit datasheets (not really new content, just revisions). I could only wonder what depth Grey Knights and Thousand Sons will get. The depth level of Thousands Sons could be an indicator for what the Death Guard get in whatever book they are in.

**bullyboy**

I'm not looking for anything special for my DA, just make what we have playable. Give us the strats, the litanies, upgrade our chapter tactic and make the super doctrine fluffy. make Ravenwing and Deathwing both be playable. Don't need any special releases.

**Smaug**

BrianDavion wrote:
alextroy wrote:
bullyboy as a very valid point. Dark Angels will have to take up close to the same space as Blood Angels did in there book because the majority of that space is datasheet after datasheet of Primaris models added to Codex Space Marines (Models with updated rules, Vanguard Space Marines, Repulsor Executioner). The Dark Angels will get all that also.

they will, but once all that is done, how much NEW stuff with dark angels get? unlike blood angels, the dark angels don't even have a famous sucessor chapter to get some screen time

The Fallen -the lost but not quite damned
Ok not a successor chapter more like a splinter of the original legion.

**BrianDavion**

Smaug wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
alextroy wrote:
bullyboy as a very valid point. Dark Angels will have to take up close to the same space as Blood Angels did in there book because the majority of that space is datasheet after datasheet of Primaris models added to Codex Space Marines (Models with updated rules, Vanguard Space Marines, Repulsor Executioner). The Dark Angels will get all that also.

they will, but once all that is done, how much NEW stuff with dark angels get? unlike blood angels, the dark angels don't even have a famous sucessor chapter to get some screen time

The Fallen -the lost but not quite damned
Ok not a successor chapter more like a splinter of the original legion.

seperate rules for the fallen would be neat but would seem at odds with the nature of this. if it was a DA vs the fallen book I'd totally be expecting fallen rules but...

**Mr Morden**

And its a new DA character.....

At the head of the Dark Angels forces is Master Lazarus – former Sergeant, now Captain of the Dark Angels 5th Company! For those of you who remember The Wrath of Magnus, Lazarus was laid low by the fell sorcery of the XV Legion. Reborn as the first Primaris Space Marine of the Inner Circle, he’s back with a dark vengeance and an even deeper hatred for psykers.

Plus

For the Dark Angels, this book brings the Chapter into line with recent Space Marines updates, and also includes lots of juicy new rules content, especially for Deathwing and Ravenwing commanders.

The Grey Knights get plenty of new tricks too, including a particularly powerful new ability called Masters of the Warp, which rewards you for taking a dedicated army of Grey Knights, channelling a specific aspect of the warp to provide an army-wide bonus.

The Thousand Sons can now dedicate their Sorcerers to one of the nine Cults of the Legion – a callback to their arcane roots on fallen Prospero – providing them with a plethora of new tactical options.

We’ll have more news on the book closer to its release.

**H.B.M.C.**

Sucks to be Azreal I guess...

**dan2026**

Goddamn another space marine.
I thought there was going to be an interesting reveal.
I only have myself to blame.

**mortar_crew**

dan2026 wrote:
Goddamn another space marine.
I thought there was going to be an interesting reveal.
I only have myself to blame.

Oh my...

Whatever.

Same here.

**Gadzilla666**

mortar_crew wrote:
dan2026 wrote:
Goddamn another space marine.
I thought there was going to be an interesting reveal.
I only have myself to blame.

Oh my...

Whatever.

Same here.

You guys obviously haven't been paying attention.

Will somebody please tell gw to tone down the edge highlights? Dude looks like a neon sign.