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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 11:45:44
Subject: Daemon alternatives? Now in search of Bloodletter alternatives.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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So i imagine most have seen these, and personally the style of them tickles my interest for an unaligned Daemon force.
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-DE/Ruinstorm-Daemon-Brutes-2019
However, what ain't as funny is the pricetag and the fact that these three are a bit singular, as in the only one that FW produced in said wierd hybrid style.
And in general it sparked my interest for what Daemon miniatures alternatives exist.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/09/27 09:20:38
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 11:57:46
Subject: Re:Daemon alternatives?
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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how about these from Mierce?
https://mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=cat&cre=dkl-ifn&sou=cat
They're quite big, I think.
These are £99 for the set & come on 60mm bases:
I can't think of anything else that might fit but you could try Reaper or CMON.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 12:18:52
Subject: Re:Daemon alternatives?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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That is damn close.
Will take a gander at reaper and cmon then.
Thanks for the help.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 12:30:05
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Check out my gallery here
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 12:32:52
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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i was mostly interested due to the fact that we don't really see all that many Daemon alternatives.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 13:40:44
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Not Online!!! wrote:i was mostly interested due to the fact that we don't really see all that many Daemon alternatives.
Which is odd, because I've always found plenty (for conversions, not necessarily in-fluff alternatives). When I used to play Daemons, most of my army was conversions for Warhammer Fantasy/ AOS models. Chaos Warhounds make good Deamon beasts Beastmen Gors are great lessor daemons (just paint red for 'Letter, pail with dark purple fur for Slaanesh, etc) Beastmen Minotaurs for Daemon Princes As well as Varghiests/Horrors: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Flesh-Eater-Courts-Crypt-Haunter-Courtier Assembled just right (with maybe a bit of conversion) and painted up right, those could easily look like Ruinstorm Brutes -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 13:50:50
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Galef wrote:Not Online!!! wrote:i was mostly interested due to the fact that we don't really see all that many Daemon alternatives.
Which is odd, because I've always found plenty (for conversions, not necessarily in-fluff alternatives). When I used to play Daemons, most of my army was conversions for Warhammer Fantasy/ AOS models.
Chaos Warhounds make good Deamon beasts
Beastmen Gors are great lessor daemons (just paint red for 'Letter, pail with dark purple fur for Slaanesh, etc)
Beastmen Minotaurs for Daemon Princes
As well as Varghiests/Horrors: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Flesh-Eater-Courts-Crypt-Haunter-Courtier
Assembled just right (with maybe a bit of conversion) and painted up right, those could easily look like Ruinstorm Brutes
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I like the ideas, altough i allready use beastmen for my R&H army as regular units the idea behind them is more to be summoned big mean things, for some unaligned /khorne melee.
That said, an armored bloodletter would really tickle my fancy.
Doesn't even need the hellblade or typical bloodletter head.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/09/26 13:51:39
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 13:53:24
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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Heresy have some nice ones;
http://www.heresyminiatures.com/shop/
Really like their larger daemons and the bigger hounds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 13:57:57
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Welp, some of them would make for fancy blooththirsters, altough not sure that i want to go over daemonprince hight / brute hight
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 13:59:15
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Not Online!!! wrote:I like the ideas, altough i allready use beastmen for my R&H army as regular units the idea behind them is more to be summoned big mean things, for some unaligned /khorne melee. That said, an armored bloodletter would really tickle my fancy. Doesn't even need the hellblade or typical bloodletter head.
If you want a big-bad unaligned/khorne monster, I highly recommend: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warherd-Bullgors-2018 If you already have Gors in your army, those guys will fit right in. And they come on the same size bases as the Ruinstorm Brutes -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 14:05:29
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Galef wrote:Not Online!!! wrote:I like the ideas, altough i allready use beastmen for my R&H army as regular units the idea behind them is more to be summoned big mean things, for some unaligned /khorne melee.
That said, an armored bloodletter would really tickle my fancy.
Doesn't even need the hellblade or typical bloodletter head.
If you want a big-bad unaligned/khorne monster, I highly recommend: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warherd-Bullgors-2018
If you already have Gors in your army, those guys will fit right in. And they come on the same size bases as the Ruinstorm Brutes
Something like these:
I allready run them as ogryn berzerkers.
https://www.manticgames.com/games/kings-of-war/forces-of-the-abyss/forces-of-the-abyss-abyssal-chroneas/
That thing would just need a weapon and i'd be about as nice as i want it. Altough at 11 CM it would probably be a bit too large.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/09/26 14:09:25
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 14:20:41
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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Fair enough. I try to stick with GW models when I can, but if you're already using those, I guess you need to branch out
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/26 17:23:37
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Galef wrote:Fair enough. I try to stick with GW models when I can, but if you're already using those, I guess you need to branch out
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Which is a bit of an issue.
Shame really that the style of the ruinstorm brutes is not really found elsewhere.
Altough that 11 cm high dude might work out fine after some kitbashing and modelling.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/27 01:23:05
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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I've been eying the new Warcry Furies as unaligned daemons since they launched; clip off their wings and I think they'd make really nice bloodletters or unaligned lesser demons. They are actually pretty similar in style to the Ruinstorm ones...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/27 07:16:43
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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Polystyrene blocks
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/27 07:25:53
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Whilest i really like your specifically flinty, i doubt it would fit the unaligned hellspawn look i am after sadly
Maybee 1?
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TBF: Has anyone found decent bloodletter alternatives.
Preferentially armored ones?
Edit: Altough i could always attempt to fuse some Bloodletter and bloodwarrior kits
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/27 10:04:43
Subject: Daemon alternatives?
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I understood that reference.
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Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
If you break apart my or anyone else's posts line by line I will not read them. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/27 11:40:41
Subject: Re:Daemon alternatives? Now in search of Bloodletter alternatives.
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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Some options staying with mierce for smaller chaotic units:
https://mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_dkl_byz_var_inf_600_008
In 3 Judas
And
https://mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_dkl_ysn_kys_inf_100_010
Ax-drunes (though if the GW minotaurs work for what you're doing, really any of the mid-sized Ysian stuff might go.)
Mantic's been mentioned as well, possibly their lower abyssals or molochs, or a bit of conversion to chaos up their salamanders? Stretching even further, Privateer Press and their warpborn skinwalkers, Tharn (especially the ravagers), or the Death Wolves kit? Seems like their should be more, but most of the few others I can think of are for the big demons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/27 19:47:33
Subject: Re:Daemon alternatives? Now in search of Bloodletter alternatives.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Shame there are no Mini mantic chroneases.
Btw that reminds me, has anyone experience in carving sigils into resin?
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 04:04:31
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Grimtuff wrote:
I understood that reference.
I had forgotten about them. They were all sorts of glorious. I wonder if I still have the thread saved.
If you are in the market for alternative Khorne daemons, you could always just go with the classic "Blood Letters".
 [url=https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/507726-Bloodletters%2C%20Chaos%20Daemons%2C%20Humor.html]
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People might hate you for it, buy you get maximum points for being awesome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 07:02:49
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Leader of the Sept
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That is the daddiest joke i think i have ever seen on these boards
Exalted.
Also just to share the joke
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/355017.page
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 08:14:38
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Snrub wrote:Grimtuff wrote:
I understood that reference.
I had forgotten about them. They were all sorts of glorious. I wonder if I still have the thread saved.
If you are in the market for alternative Khorne daemons, you could always just go with the classic "Blood Letters".
 [url=https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/507726-Bloodletters%2C%20Chaos%20Daemons%2C%20Humor.html]
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People might hate you for it, buy you get maximum points for being awesome.
That joke is so bad it could be german.
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Again, i like the cubes, (CUBES OF DOOM!) really probably the most tzeetchy army there is.
But i prefer for my project an unaligned ruinstorm alike look
Also i am a bit surprised overall that smaller daemon types have just way less Alternative models.
Must Go further in Google it seems.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/09/28 08:18:25
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 10:34:30
Subject: Daemon alternatives? Now in search of Bloodletter alternatives.
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Just in case you have never seen it before but there is a thread here devoted to companies other than GW, a lot of it is dated info but there are still a lot of active companies;
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 10:37:13
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Now that is handy: Thanks that is bound to help me a bit in my quest.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/29 19:00:20
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Shieldwolf mountain orcs would be a good fit if you're looking for some "savage primitive" looking guys. The heads are much more feral than GWs. Red skin, really play up the bone colors and I bet they'd look ace.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/10/01 07:16:03
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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PourSpelur wrote:Shieldwolf mountain orcs would be a good fit if you're looking for some "savage primitive" looking guys. The heads are much more feral than GWs. Red skin, really play up the bone colors and I bet they'd look ace.
They are interesting. Automatically Appended Next Post: Actually, i decided to go with balrog from lotr, kitbash him a bit and that would then be the hq.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/10/01 12:22:42
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Galef wrote:Fair enough. I try to stick with GW models when I can, but if you're already using those, I guess you need to branch out
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Bestigors? That’s what I was going to use for a Khorne army because they look like the old metal Bloodletters with axes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/10/01 15:29:42
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Fajita Fan wrote: Galef wrote:Fair enough. I try to stick with GW models when I can, but if you're already using those, I guess you need to branch out
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Bestigors? That’s what I was going to use for a Khorne army because they look like the old metal Bloodletters with axes.
Bestigors are Mail order only.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/10/01 18:18:33
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/10/01 21:11:50
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Interesting, thanks for the heads up!
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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