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 ClockworkZion wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
From the looks of it, there appears to be ten Bolters per two frames on the Infilcursor kit. This is perfect. I am going to convert a squad or two of Reivers into Incursors, that way I can make three squads of Infiltrators and three squads of Incursors using this kit. Fantastic!

Edit: I am not seeing any bits for the Helix Adept though. What gives?!

That bit was arm and shoulder pad in Vanguard.


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Tank Hunters Strat giving +1 to wound versus vehicles makes IF even better tank hunters.

Huh? I don't understand what you mean about the Helix Adept.

+1 to Wound v. Vehicles is pretty mean. That makes things like Suppressors even crazier.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
From the looks of it, there appears to be ten Bolters per two frames on the Infilcursor kit. This is perfect. I am going to convert a squad or two of Reivers into Incursors, that way I can make three squads of Infiltrators and three squads of Incursors using this kit. Fantastic!

Edit: I am not seeing any bits for the Helix Adept though. What gives?!

I see 11 bolter bodies, and 5 of each bolter receiver on a set of frames. And one haywire mine. so double that per box.
Parts to make one commo guy per 5, but no parts for a helix adept, which is only in the shadowspear models it seems.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
From the looks of it, there appears to be ten Bolters per two frames on the Infilcursor kit. This is perfect. I am going to convert a squad or two of Reivers into Incursors, that way I can make three squads of Infiltrators and three squads of Incursors using this kit. Fantastic!

Edit: I am not seeing any bits for the Helix Adept though. What gives?!

That bit was arm and shoulder pad in Vanguard.


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Tank Hunters Strat giving +1 to wound versus vehicles makes IF even better tank hunters.

Huh? I don't understand what you mean about the Helix Adept.

+1 to Wound v. Vehicles is pretty mean. That makes things like Suppressors even crazier.

I meant the bit you're looking for should just be an arm with some bulb looking bits on it for the Helix Adept.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
From the looks of it, there appears to be ten Bolters per two frames on the Infilcursor kit. This is perfect. I am going to convert a squad or two of Reivers into Incursors, that way I can make three squads of Infiltrators and three squads of Incursors using this kit. Fantastic!

Edit: I am not seeing any bits for the Helix Adept though. What gives?!

I see 11 bolter bodies, and 5 of each bolter receiver on a set of frames. And one haywire mine. so double that per box.
Parts to make one commo guy per 5, but no parts for a helix adept, which is only in the shadowspear models it seems.

Well, I will probably have to figure something out for the Helix Adepts, but the Incursors using the extra arms and Reiver bodies will work great. I won't be able to do three squads of Incursors, but I can do four Infiltrator Squads and two Incursor Squads. That is pretty great.

The Helix Adept arm might be able to be done by swiping some bulb bits from some Ad Mech guns.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
From the looks of it, there appears to be ten Bolters per two frames on the Infilcursor kit. This is perfect. I am going to convert a squad or two of Reivers into Incursors, that way I can make three squads of Infiltrators and three squads of Incursors using this kit. Fantastic!

Edit: I am not seeing any bits for the Helix Adept though. What gives?!

I see 11 bolter bodies, and 5 of each bolter receiver on a set of frames. And one haywire mine. so double that per box.
Parts to make one commo guy per 5, but no parts for a helix adept, which is only in the shadowspear models it seems.

Well, I will probably have to figure something out for the Helix Adepts, but the Incursors using the extra arms and Reiver bodies will work great. I won't be able to do three squads of Incursors, but I can do four Infiltrator Squads and two Incursor Squads. That is pretty great.

The Helix Adept arm might be able to be done by swiping some bulb bits from some Ad Mech guns.

or even just painting a shoulderguard white.

+1 to wound stratagem works with centurion cohort 6+ mortal wound strat. There's also a strat to let a IF unit fire their boltguns in combat as if they were pistols. So a 6 block of centurions are going to be exploding twice with a 1 cp strat on 6s to hit. Against vehicles they will be doing a mortal wound on a 5+. If they do get locked in combat they can delete whatever touched them by firing 6 HB shots and 6 Hurricane bolter shots each (can still MW strat them if the taggers are vehicles) as pistols. Granted they're pistols so no 12 shot hurricanes or -1 AP, but still, pretty solid.

Just having a look at the preorder stuff in NZ. The impulsor looks cool. One slight issue is you don’t get a guy to fire the pintle stubber. It has handles but nobody to hold them. Good way to avoid the AA stubbers shooting him in the back I guess.

 Tibs Ironblood wrote:
+1 to wound stratagem works with centurion cohort 6+ mortal wound strat. There's also a strat to let a IF unit fire their boltguns in combat as if they were pistols. So a 6 block of centurions are going to be exploding twice with a 1 cp strat on 6s to hit. Against vehicles they will be doing a mortal wound on a 5+. If they do get locked in combat they can delete whatever touched them by firing 6 HB shots and 6 Hurricane bolter shots each (can still MW strat them if the taggers are vehicles) as pistols. Granted they're pistols so no 12 shot hurricanes or -1 AP, but still, pretty solid.

But how likely is it that the Siegebreaker Cohort strat doesn't get errata'd out of the book? Both the relic and the warlord trait from Vigilus are in the IF Supplement with the same name but a different effect.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I meant the bit you're looking for should just be an arm with some bulb looking bits on it for the Helix Adept.

"Bulb bits"? What? He has pretty much a full Narthecium and big medic bag, literally the only difference with a full apothecary is the fact the saw thing is separate. He should be given pretty much the entire apothecary part kit from old marine boxes to fit IMO.

Even though its a relatively minor thing, the absence of any Helix Adept parts from the multipart kit does leave a bad taste in the mouth. I guess GW really want to make sure the Shadowspear sprues sell when they repack them(as if the Lt and Suppressor's were not enough already)

 Aenar wrote:

 Tibs Ironblood wrote:
+1 to wound stratagem works with centurion cohort 6+ mortal wound strat. There's also a strat to let a IF unit fire their boltguns in combat as if they were pistols. So a 6 block of centurions are going to be exploding twice with a 1 cp strat on 6s to hit. Against vehicles they will be doing a mortal wound on a 5+. If they do get locked in combat they can delete whatever touched them by firing 6 HB shots and 6 Hurricane bolter shots each (can still MW strat them if the taggers are vehicles) as pistols. Granted they're pistols so no 12 shot hurricanes or -1 AP, but still, pretty solid.

But how likely is it that the Siegebreaker Cohort strat doesn't get errata'd out of the book? Both the relic and the warlord trait from Vigilus are in the IF Supplement with the same name but a different effect.

pretty unlikely as GW's addressed a few similer cases already, the specialist detachments are still viable, exept where over ridden. So, for example, I can take the indomatus crusade veterans specialist detachment, but the stratigiums are now the ones found in codex space marines, the relics are the ones found in codex space marines etc. but I can still take it and sue the grey sheild warlord trait.

 Irbis wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I meant the bit you're looking for should just be an arm with some bulb looking bits on it for the Helix Adept.

"Bulb bits"? What? He has pretty much a full Narthecium and big medic bag, literally the only difference with a full apothecary is the fact the saw thing is separate. He should be given pretty much the entire apothecary part kit from old marine boxes to fit IMO.

I am probably going to use the Comms unit arm as a base and cut the forearm off and put an Apothecary forearm on its place. Might need to cut the hand off since Primaris hands are bigger.

I’m really surprised there’s no Helix Adept arm in there. That’s a really weird exclusion.

Fortunately the Helix Adept is terrible so the one from Shadowspear is enough for me.

 AduroT wrote:
I’m really surprised there’s no Helix Adept arm in there. That’s a really weird exclusion.

Wonder if they might do a Plague Marine and make it so there's a blister down the road of a Helix Adept?

 Prometheum5 wrote:
Fortunately the Helix Adept is terrible so the one from Shadowspear is enough for me.

I don't think it is terrible. Being able to heal your objective campers is nice. Better than re-roll ones with bolters that requires you to have a subpar HQ. Granted, all version of an Apothecary are probably a tad overcosted. Anyway, not having the bits in the box is really stupid and annoying.

Why would they exclude that?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Why would they exclude that?

That's what I am wondering. I like them because they are thematic. And making my Troops more survivable is pretty great. And there is no loss in effectiveness for the unit.

And terrible or not, it is an option for the unit that isn't available for sale outside of a boxed set. It is stupid.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Why would they exclude that?

That's what I am wondering. I like them because they are thematic. And making my Troops more survivable is pretty great. And there is no loss in effectiveness for the unit.

And terrible or not, it is an option for the unit that isn't available for sale outside of a boxed set. It is stupid.

Me think an overcosted clampack be arriving to "fix" the lack of the option, just like Plague Marines had them overcosted clampacks and the 3 model reinforcement pack.

But it's not a character...

 Crimson wrote:
But it's not a character...

neither is a plague marine champion or bannerman.

Morgasm the Powerfull wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
But it's not a character...

neither is a plague marine champion or bannerman.

Oh! I didn't know that. Okay then.

Morgasm the Powerfull wrote:
Me think an overcosted clampack be arriving to "fix" the lack of the option, just like Plague Marines had them overcosted clampacks and the 3 model reinforcement pack.

3 model 'reinforcement pack' was originally a limited quantities item that included a whole bunch of really cool artwork in a pamphlet and the individual models were named. They unfortunately weren't given any special rules though.

Morgasm the Powerfull wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
But it's not a character...

neither is a plague marine champion or bannerman.

The Icon Bearer, at least, has an acceptable purpose:
Allowing for someone who is building off of Dark Imperium and its associated bits to add an Icon Bearer to their units without needing to buy a whole box just for the parts.

 Tibs Ironblood wrote:
+1 to wound stratagem works with centurion cohort 6+ mortal wound strat. There's also a strat to let a IF unit fire their boltguns in combat as if they were pistols. So a 6 block of centurions are going to be exploding twice with a 1 cp strat on 6s to hit. Against vehicles they will be doing a mortal wound on a 5+. If they do get locked in combat they can delete whatever touched them by firing 6 HB shots and 6 Hurricane bolter shots each (can still MW strat them if the taggers are vehicles) as pistols. Granted they're pistols so no 12 shot hurricanes or -1 AP, but still, pretty solid.

Bolter Eliminators doing mortals on 4+ and wounding t8 on 3+ if Guided are also quite cool. Ok, just 2 shots. But very good ones.
Bolter Agressors will make a good use of the pistol strat, too.

A pretty decent review. https://www.goonhammer.com/codex-supplement-imperial-fists-the-goonhammer-review/

I can see some pretty decent stuff.

I don't really agree with Goonhammer but that's because gunline Marines aren't that great of a build and honestly we should be pushing forward onto objectives instead of being worse at the gunline than the Guard.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
A pretty decent review. https://www.goonhammer.com/codex-supplement-imperial-fists-the-goonhammer-review/

I can see some pretty decent stuff.

Thank Emperor a written review! I tried to watch a Youtube video by some mumbling American who had forgotten to take his Ritalin, but I couldn't power through it.

 Crimson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
A pretty decent review. https://www.goonhammer.com/codex-supplement-imperial-fists-the-goonhammer-review/

I can see some pretty decent stuff.

Thank Emperor a written review! I tried to watch a Youtube video by some mumbling American who had forgotten to take his Ritalin, but I couldn't power through it.

Most of the ones out are from Canadians or Brits, you prick!

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
A pretty decent review. https://www.goonhammer.com/codex-supplement-imperial-fists-the-goonhammer-review/
I can see some pretty decent stuff.

Thank Emperor a written review! I tried to watch a Youtube video by some mumbling American who had forgotten to take his Ritalin, but I couldn't power through it.

Most of the ones out are from Canadians or Brits, you prick!

He might have been a Canadian! I can't tell.

 Crimson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
A pretty decent review. https://www.goonhammer.com/codex-supplement-imperial-fists-the-goonhammer-review/
I can see some pretty decent stuff.

Thank Emperor a written review! I tried to watch a Youtube video by some mumbling American who had forgotten to take his Ritalin, but I couldn't power through it.

Most of the ones out are from Canadians or Brits, you prick!

He might have been a Canadian! I can't tell.

If it was GMG or Miniwargaming, they are Canadian. There aren't many US reviewers out there.