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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ekwatts wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Get ready for a damp squib on this one.

Thanks for the weird and totally necessary correction.

I might be mistaken but I'm certain we had a discussion at some point about incorrect uses of the "damp squib" term. "Damn" squib and "Damp squid" were two of the incorrect examples given, so I thought you were deliberately getting it wrong for effect, and thought I'd make a humorous and unnecessary correction. No offence intended!

On topic, as has already been pointed out, it's somewhat surprising that Inquisitorial warbands haven't been seized on for Kill Team. Thematically they're absolutely perfect, and we got halfway there with the Rogue Trader box a while back. GW might not believe they belong on the battlefield in "full fat" 40k, but they've effectively skirted that theme already with previous Kill Team releases. Actually writing up some rules for a White Dwarf article to pull something together surely isn't beyond the realm of possibility.

 ekwatts wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ekwatts wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Get ready for a damp squib on this one.

Thanks for the weird and totally necessary correction.

I might be mistaken but I'm certain we had a discussion at some point about incorrect uses of the "damp squib" term. "Damn" squib and "Damp squid" were two of the incorrect examples given, so I thought you were deliberately getting it wrong for effect, and thought I'd make a humorous and unnecessary correction. No offence intended!

On topic, as has already been pointed out, it's somewhat surprising that Inquisitorial warbands haven't been seized on for Kill Team. Thematically they're absolutely perfect, and we got halfway there with the Rogue Trader box a while back. GW might not believe they belong on the battlefield in "full fat" 40k, but they've effectively skirted that theme already with previous Kill Team releases. Actually writing up some rules for a White Dwarf article to pull something together surely isn't beyond the realm of possibility.

I'm just afraid that when the inquisition comes to kill team, it will as limited as rogue trader, so not realy worth it

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah but this is GW, and GW never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

GW still don't even bother to tailor the advert at the back of Black Library books to feature the factions from the specific books.

Book about Blood Angels fighting Necrons? Ad showing Ultramarines vs. Death Guard

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Do they still sell WD digitally or did that get discontinued?

Yup, you can get digital copies online. Look for the link on the main GW site.

 Karthicus wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Do they still sell WD digitally or did that get discontinued?

Yup, you can get digital copies online. Look for the link on the main GW site.

I'm pretty sure they discontinued the digital for a while only to restart it a bit later. But yeah, it exists again now.

 Crimson wrote:

 Karthicus wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Do they still sell WD digitally or did that get discontinued?

Yup, you can get digital copies online. Look for the link on the main GW site.

I'm pretty sure they discontinued the digital for a while only to restart it a bit later. But yeah, it exists again now.

Thanks, I'm overseas again so digital is the only option.

My first army was Chaos in general.

My second was Inquisition because my Chaos needed a good adversary.
The models have a ton of character and almost everything about these guys scream kill-team and a diverse army.

They must have a means just like in the past to either be made part of a force or add a force to them somewhat seamlessly without penalty.
They are the original "soup" that made sense.
Separating out Grey Knights pretty much killed that army.
This IS a fantastic opportunity to give that extra something to the SOB.

Plus my Greyfax model would work so well with them.

Inquisitors of note NEED to happen.

ikeulhu wrote:

Tastyfish wrote:
There was a rumour a little while back about Inquisition coming to Kill team.

It was more than a rumour. One of the Kill Team books actually listed them as an upcoming supplement. That being said, so was a Squat Codex for 2nd edition and we all know how that went...

too soon, too soon.........

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 Karthicus wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Do they still sell WD digitally or did that get discontinued?

Yup, you can get digital copies online. Look for the link on the main GW site.

I'm pretty sure they discontinued the digital for a while only to restart it a bit later. But yeah, it exists again now.

Thanks, I'm overseas again so digital is the only option.

Crimson is right on that account, and I was super bummed about it when they stopped the digital platform. I hate to carry books around, so I use pdf for everything I can. Saw the epub last week, and was pretty excited.

Warhammer Digital is the site you will need to grab them from. Right now they have all issues from 2019 available.

There's a reference to Imperial Agents in the current WD.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I mean it took 'em three Dawn of War games to release an actual (and terrible) tie-in model. One of their biggest video game successes is for a universe that they destroyed. There should'a been a box of Dark Crusade's HQ characters out the same time the game came out. They should be capitalising on every major 3rd party release and using it as a way of leveraging more customers to their core products.

The sad part is, they did try to capitalize on games, but instead of picking Space Marine or DoW 2 (two colossal hits that put 40K in game landscape) - they picked some literally who SW vs Orks game, not only from some new franchise no one heard about, but a turn based strategy, niche of a niche, as if they were looking for least possibly successful tie-in to show it doesn't work

It's mind bogging they won't pick one of AAA 40K titles, make special edition by packaging a troop unit of in-game faction with the game for 10$ more, watch it literally fly off the shelves at minimal cost for GW. And with games being digital these days, you could accomplish it by GW simply inserting game key card into troop box with promotional art...

I could have sworn they did try to tie 40k into a videogame before. Didn't someone make a Tau Firewarrior right after the game Firewarrior came out? I know that game is why Tau now have Rail Rifles and the Orca from Forgeworld.

 cuda1179 wrote:
I could have sworn they did try to tie 40k into a videogame before. Didn't someone make a Tau Firewarrior right after the game Firewarrior came out? I know that game is why Tau now have Rail Rifles and the Orca from Forgeworld.

Dawn of War is why they gave the ability for SM captains to take Thunder Hammers, before that they were terminator only.

 cuda1179 wrote:
I could have sworn they did try to tie 40k into a videogame before. Didn't someone make a Tau Firewarrior right after the game Firewarrior came out? I know that game is why Tau now have Rail Rifles and the Orca from Forgeworld.

Orcas first showed up in Firewarrior, but they could have been invented by GW long before the game came out* and GW did come out with Rail Rifle minis for Tau soon after.

Even so, the odd thing here and there is really what proves how lacklustre GW is at synergising their releases or leveraging upcoming 3rd party products as a way of drawing in new players. So many people have said that Dawn of War got them into 40K. GW basically never did anything with that game, and it's just bizarre that they wasted that opportunity. When the Ultramarine movie came out, as awful as that was, the only company I recall doing anything with that release was Fantasy Flight Games, who released a mini-PDF tie-in with some background stuff and some relic rules for the Deathwatch RPG. Why wasn't there a boxed set of the Ultramarine characters miniatures from that movie on sale the day of its release? I don't get why.

The last time I saw GW actively pimping their own stuff via a video game was Total War: Warhammer (the first one) where there were links to the GW store with "Played the game, now see the miniatures!" kind of thing. Except that it took them to Age of Sigmar, not Warhammer... so opportunity missed. Again!


*Deathwing had Genestealer Cultists in it before GW released the new GSC stuff. Granted, the Deathwing game didn't come out until after GW released the new GSC line, but it meant that they had them in development and let the Deathwing guys in on it. I wish they'd done that for Enemies Without the xenos-based Dark Heresy supplement, as it was roughly in the same timeframe, but you can't win 'em all.

I suppose I should point out we re drifting off topic.

To be fair, drifting away from the topic is kinda what we're talking about.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
To be fair, drifting away from the topic is kinda what we're talking about.

sad but true. Kinda hope they get some love in the Sororitas codex, or at least something.

I'm hoping they get Necromunda Enforcers as a troop choice. That would make for some cool models

It's probably just the chibis. :\

 Insurgency Walker wrote:
I'm hoping they get Necromunda Enforcers as a troop choice. That would make for some cool models

That would be AWESOME but I doubt it, they haven't crossed the streams yet and I don't see them doing it soon.

Even the first version of Necromunda never made it to 40k except for like a hive ganger troop choice in the Armageddon campaign.

I guess I'm just surprised that the one gang from Necromunda to now effectively have 2 box sets when they release the gangs separately is getting publicity just weeks before an Inquisition dwarfdex drops.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Even the first version of Necromunda never made it to 40k except for like a hive ganger troop choice in the Armageddon campaign.

Didn't Sisters had Redemptionists in their Chapter Approved list and later with WD rules for the Witch Hunter Codex?

I suppose Necromunda Gangs have too many weapon options (compared to models from board games or Warcry), so GW are reluctant to give them rules.

The Cult of Redemption isn't limited to Necromunda, unlike Palanite Enforcers which are from the Palatine Hive (even if the nomenclature makes zero sense there, but that's a whole other issue).

Enforcers showing up in an Inquisitorial list wouldn't make any fluff sense, and I doubt GW is about to create a 'Counts As' situation.

Which is a crying shame really, I looked at the new models and thought they would make excellent naval armsmen (dont even need equipment swapped!) and that could be tied into Inquisition very easily. Though the I do also use local enforcers/arbites frequently so would work as well for that.

When is WD released now? Havent bought one for years but could be tempted if the rules are not terrible (and give back PA as an option).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Cult of Redemption isn't limited to Necromunda, unlike Palanite Enforcers which are from the Palatine Hive (even if the nomenclature makes zero sense there, but that's a whole other issue).

Enforcers showing up in an Inquisitorial list wouldn't make any fluff sense, and I doubt GW is about to create a 'Counts As' situation.

Well, Inquistors are quite liberal to equip their retinue, so why not buy it from Necromunda (if the armour/equipment is from Necromunda at all, maybe House Helmawr just imports it to be not dependent on local factions). Sure, it would not be that common, but orange apes aren't too and not all Death Cult Assassins look like Severina and Sevora.

But yes, I guess they'd rather change the Acolytes to Scions.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Cult of Redemption isn't limited to Necromunda, unlike Palanite Enforcers which are from the Palatine Hive (even if the nomenclature makes zero sense there, but that's a whole other issue).

Enforcers showing up in an Inquisitorial list wouldn't make any fluff sense, and I doubt GW is about to create a 'Counts As' situation.

Well, Inquistors are quite liberal to equip their retinue, so why not buy it from Necromunda (if the armour/equipment is from Necromunda at all, maybe House Helmawr just imports it to be not dependent on local factions). Sure, it would not be that common, but orange apes aren't too and not all Death Cult Assassins look like Severina and Sevora.

But yes, I guess they'd rather change the Acolytes to Scions.

I have a suspicion that there won't be Acolytes at all. The "list" will simply be an Inquisitor profile with a few different wargear options and then a note saying "You can take X Inquisitors in the following Imperium armies as a X choice." I hope I'm wrong.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Well, Inquistors are quite liberal to equip their retinue, so why not buy it from Necromunda (if the armour/equipment is from Necromunda at all, maybe House Helmawr just imports it to be not dependent on local factions). Sure, it would not be that common, but orange apes aren't too and not all Death Cult Assassins look like Severina and Sevora.

Then GW would be codifying the idea that Inquisitors use Necromundan local police form a specific hive for the majority of their combat work. GW's never going to do that.

They'd go with something more broad, such as Storm Troopers, just as you said.

But then again current GW doesn't think Inquisitors belong on the battlefield, so who the hell knows what they'll do. Nothing like Daemonhunters/Witch Hunters, that's for sure.

You know, with Inquisitors not belonging on the battlefield with new GW's mindset, maybe these rules aren't for 40k at all. This very well could be a Kill Team list......in fact I think that leaked distribution list in the Warcry thread mentioned a KT annual the first week in January. They could very well put this list in there.

 Insurgency Walker wrote:
I'm hoping they get Necromunda Enforcers as a troop choice. That would make for some cool models

I with you on that. I've been trying to find a way to justify buying those beautiful models. If they can be used as Inq. Henchmen I'd be all over them. Although I was wondering how hard it would be to convert them into Admech troops. They look the part for either role.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Then GW would be codifying the idea that Inquisitors use Necromundan local police form a specific hive for the majority of their combat work. GW's never going to do that.

It's almost as if GW would be codifying the idea that IG uses PDF from a specific (dead) planet for the majority of their combat work. Go figure

Really, they need to fire the idiot who ruined post 5th edition GK books and bring back the acolytes as Inquisition troops. They were trivially adaptable to all sorts of models with their upgradeable armor and guns, you could use Palatine Enforcers, Scions, Stormtroopers, anything really. Alas, 5th edition was high point in Codex rule writing quality and with current bloat loving crew in charge we're unlikely to ever see it back...