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 Galef wrote:


Although, I do have 1 speculation. I'll put it in spoilers just in case:

Spoiler:

I think 3PO is going to "die" in this one. Or rather they'll have to turn on his "combat mode" or something like that, but in order to do so, his personality will be lost forever. This would put 3PO's "lifespan" perfectly within Ep1-9 as we see him "activated" in Ep1 and may see him finally "deactivated" in Ep9.

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FWIW, that jives with one of the many supposed nesting doll leaks from a month or two ago that may just be educated guesses. I don't know if you're aware of that or it's just a guess from the trailer.

I also get the idea there's gonna be a kylo & rey team up to take down the emperor. One of them will probably be mortally wounded in the process, prolly Kylo. Then happy endings ensue.

So, where did all those rebels come from?

I guess I would have to watch the movie to find out.....

 warboss wrote:

 Galef wrote:


Although, I do have 1 speculation. I'll put it in spoilers just in case:

Spoiler:

I think 3PO is going to "die" in this one. Or rather they'll have to turn on his "combat mode" or something like that, but in order to do so, his personality will be lost forever. This would put 3PO's "lifespan" perfectly within Ep1-9 as we see him "activated" in Ep1 and may see him finally "deactivated" in Ep9.

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FWIW, that jives with one of the many supposed nesting doll leaks from a month or two ago that may just be educated guesses. I don't know if you're aware of that or it's just a guess from the trailer.

Spoiler:

We've also long ago previewed 3P0 toy armed with chewie's bowcaster. The leak in question said that 3p0 has his programming altered by some sort of sith combat programming necessary to find the maguffin that leads the heroes to Palpatines secret lair. That's supposedly why the little alien is working on his head.

Actually, my first thought was the Falcon was somehow damaged and L3-37 was lost, so they needed to download a new consciousness unit the ship so it can go do a thing, but that doesn't explain red eyes.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 Galef wrote:


Although, I do have 1 speculation. I'll put it in spoilers just in case:

Spoiler:

I think 3PO is going to "die" in this one. Or rather they'll have to turn on his "combat mode" or something like that, but in order to do so, his personality will be lost forever. This would put 3PO's "lifespan" perfectly within Ep1-9 as we see him "activated" in Ep1 and may see him finally "deactivated" in Ep9.

-

FWIW, that jives with one of the many supposed nesting doll leaks from a month or two ago that may just be educated guesses. I don't know if you're aware of that or it's just a guess from the trailer.

Spoiler:

We've also long ago previewed 3P0 toy armed with chewie's bowcaster. The leak in question said that 3p0 has his programming altered by some sort of sith combat programming necessary to find the maguffin that leads the heroes to Palpatines secret lair. That's supposedly why the little alien is working on his head.

Actually, my first thought was the Falcon was somehow damaged and L3-37 was lost, so they needed to download a new consciousness unit the ship so it can go do a thing, but that doesn't explain red eyes.

Maybe he swaps places with L3-37.

From the new canon comics, could be something to do with Triple 0?

Please note, interested in speculation, not spoilers.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/0-0-0

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
From the new canon comics, could be something to do with Triple 0?

Please note, interested in speculation, not spoilers.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/0-0-0

Expecting EU stuff to be relevant in films is generally a pretty good route to disappointment. Main line films are not about rewarding people for reading obscure comics.

Looks good, but likely plot outline doesn't look particularly exciting and also, where are the Knights of Ren?? That's one thing I was actually looking forward for.

I am sure they try to put in some twists, but my confidence on JJ Abrams is at all-time low.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
From the new canon comics, could be something to do with Triple 0?

Please note, interested in speculation, not spoilers.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/0-0-0

No, it will be something stupid.

 Easy E wrote:
So, where did all those rebels come from?

I guess I would have to watch the movie to find out.....

You believe the movie will answer this question?

Just watched the trailer again for the 3rd time in a row. Despite my feelings about the last Jedi, my inner child is running around it’s living room on melt down over this one.

Please Disney bring it back from the brink and finish the saga on a good note.

I’m really wondering if the rebel fleet is more of a flashback?

Or a desperate attempt to pull the old ships out of mothballs.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
So, where did all those rebels come from?

I guess I would have to watch the movie to find out.....

You believe the movie will answer this question?

No, hence the ....

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m really wondering if the rebel fleet is more of a flashback?

Or a desperate attempt to pull the old ships out of mothballs.

There's a shot of a Corvette taking off from a planet that looks like its been abandoned there for a while. I'd assume its more of the mothball factor. Likely the salvager gets a chance to do some salvaging.

I honestly thought that Corvette was crashing on the planet.
The camera POV is underneath and absurdly close, and the ship is coming closer

 Galef wrote:
At first I was a bit disappointed with this trailer as it doesn't appear to really reveal anything. But then I realized, "Hey, it doesn't reveal anything" i.e. nothing is spoiled.

Well, nothing new, anyway.
Old uncle Palpatine could have been a hell of a shock moment. Instead, well... its advertising buzz that will probably be a let down.

Of course the other possibility is, like the first two, it is a bland, 'check the boxes' type movie that doesn't have anything to spoil.

And it also kind of spoils that C3PO is going to do something something (which we're supposed to take as 'noble suicide'), which is something of a spoiler because the two droids have been pure window dressing for these films. Even if 'something' is 'be gratuitously killed because the writers don't want to do interesting things with old characters'

Well, they’ve left-footed us before, including with marketing.

We’ve so far seen a red eyed C-3PO with Chewie’s bandolier and Bowcaster.

I’m fearing a Threepio Rambo (Rambo Threepio?) scene, but I suspect it may be little more than a moment of levity.

Christ we all remember C3PO’s combat tryout in attack of the clones. Surly they wouldn’t try that moment of humour again.

But saying that we have had two Death Stars, a Death Star planet and Death Star wreckage so who knows.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m really wondering if the rebel fleet is more of a flashback?

Or a desperate attempt to pull the old ships out of mothballs.

TLJ mentioned bunch of allies Resistance was counting on to fight on their side (none of whom responded to their blight). I presume somebody gives a big inspirational speech and the Galaxy has a change of heart and gathers a ragtag fleet to stop First Order.

Giving it some thought and wonder if they are taking some influence from Timothy Zahn's Empire trilogy.

You have DJ - a slicer - who gave the hint that someone is dealing weapons to both the resistance and new order, and he had access to their ship. With the resistance reduced to just a handful of survivors on the Falcon, the resistance fleet could be made up of smugglers who are fed up with the New Order's heavy handedness - especially with Kylo in change and having little patience.

The Fleet of older Star destroyers might also be a nod to the Katana Fleet, and the big battle might be to win control of it.

The emperor died in ROTJ and in these trailers he comes across as a ghost - or "Phantom"? - and I wonder if he might use Rey or Kylo in a similar fashion to Mara Jade.

Could Lando be filling Talon Karrde's role? Maybe DJ introduces the new resistance gang to him - maybe even works for him?

Canto Bight is a bit of a nod to the gambling dens and "neutral factions" in Zahn's trilogy.

In Last Jedi, Rey visits a Jedi Master for guidence when there are no other known Jedi in the galaxy, and he believes things that are strongly contradicting the Jedi ways. Hes also overseeing something of great importance. In Zahn's trilogy its "left over tech from the clone wars" but in Last Jedi its the sacred Jedi texts.

Obviously we haven't got the Empire trilogy as we read it back in the 90s and before the Prequels, but it seems to be being used as a rough guide...

Felt almost nothing watching this. “Generic Big Budget Sci Fi” coming this Christmas. Who cares.


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Threepio will be reprogrammed for combat and sent into a suicide mission.

Eversor style Threepio.

Why not.

Could Threepio - with his red eyes - be a hint that a droid army is involved somehow? The Clone Wars part of the prequels were the most welcome part, and I think those who grew up in that era would delight at their return.

I think it'll be a fakeout like Sith Rey. The conclusion of red eyes= evil Threepio/combat mode is just too obvious to put in the trailer and it be what it appears.

I'm curious about why they didn't actually show Palpatine, other than a brief glimpse of the side of his hood on the throne... We know what Palpatine looks like, so there seems little point in not showing him unless -
- it's not actually Palpatine
or
- it's not as simple as 'Hey, Palpatine's back, baby!'... and showing him would give something about that away.

Either of which might dovetail into the earlier rumours that Matt Smith is in there playing a 'younger' version of Palpatine, which would be either a clone or Palpatine's spirit possessing someone else.

Then again, there was a pic released a few days back showing an alien that was supposed to probably be Matt Smith in lots of makeup, so who knows.




Also, the Falcon has its round sensor dish back. Yay!

It's a little detail, but it looks 'right' now


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 LunarSol wrote:

Looks good. I do fear its going to have the same time crunch created by VIII taking place immediately after VII the way it did. The ending of VIII left me wanting some time between it and IX for an oppressive new status quo to catch up on, but it feels like it will pivot pretty quickly into the finale. I'd rather not the whole trilogy take place over a weekend.

It doesn't. It was mentioned a while back that there's a bit of a gap between the end of TLJ and the start of this one. Presumably time for Rey to get in some training and for what's left of the Resistance to do some recruiting.

 insaniak wrote:
I'm curious about why they didn't actually show Palpatine, other than a brief glimpse of the side of his hood on the throne... We know what Palpatine looks like, so there seems little point in not showing him unless -
- it's not actually Palpatine
or
- it's not as simple as 'Hey, Palpatine's back, baby!'... and showing him would give something about that away.

I suspect there are a number of fakeouts in the trailer. Some scenes might not even be in the film, since that's such a thing now.

Thing is, I don't know if that helps or hurts. Some fans are going to try to 'figure out' the movie from the trailers no matter how vague you make them, so maybe it's just better to be honest and show what you can so they aren't butthurt when their expectations are wrong.

I found the lack of Ewoks disturbing.

SamusDrake wrote:
Could Threepio - with his red eyes - be a hint that a droid army is involved somehow? The Clone Wars part of the prequels were the most welcome part, and I think those who grew up in that era would delight at their return.

Supposedly one of the big galactic lessons of the prequel's droid armies was that the galaxy learned they were rubbish and they weren't worth bothering with.
Though that was a Lucas bit, and I doubt that the current studio/writers/directors care about some of the minor takeaways from the prequels.

 insaniak wrote:
I'm curious about why they didn't actually show Palpatine, other than a brief glimpse of the side of his hood on the throne... We know what Palpatine looks like, so there seems little point in not showing him unless -
- it's not actually Palpatine
or
- it's not as simple as 'Hey, Palpatine's back, baby!'... and showing him would give something about that away.

There's a scene where it looks like Rey and Kylo team up and strike down a black cloak. Haven't rewatched it for details. I think at this point its very likely that Palpatine won't be a physical entity but some kind of raw manifestation of the Dark Side. That would tie into the way Maz describes it in Ep7, but I try not to assume anything JJ puts in his dialog necessarily has any meaning so I wouldn't put a lot of stock in any sort of foreshadowing.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
So, where did all those rebels come from?

I guess I would have to watch the movie to find out.....

You believe the movie will answer this question?

well given the First Order is even dumber than The Empire sploding those planets in FA with your latest bad idea was going to cause a bit of pushback, especially once word gets out it got kaboomed just like the other ones

Yes! Where are our Ewoks? I loved those little guys as a kid.

It doesn't. It was mentioned a while back that there's a bit of a gap between the end of TLJ and the start of this one. Presumably time for Rey to get in some training and for what's left of the Resistance to do some recruiting.

I'm glad, because I don't think that story has to be told in the film. The crawl can cover it. I also don't think it has to end with the absolute and total defeat of the First Order/New Empire (and don't think that it will). For one thing, they'll want to make more movies in that universe, and why rid the franchise of its only good villain(ous entity)? For another, I think it's genuinely enough to end it roughly where ROTJ did.