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Darsath wrote:
If we can stay on topic for a moment, I think that Games Workshop's lower focus on Chapter Approved this year (assuming the December 7th release date is true) could hint towards less content or production time than in past years. I could theorise that the other releases that are coming out around the same time, such as the new PA and sisters release, would mean less time devoted to CA. I hope that some of the lesser Xenos races gets stuff, and that the other Space Marine factions get updated to at least match the vanilla Space Marine codex. We'll see soon enough.

No need for them to put all that effort into CA when we're gonna see 8.5/9th edition soon.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

Darsath wrote:
If we can stay on topic for a moment, I think that Games Workshop's lower focus on Chapter Approved this year (assuming the December 7th release date is true) could hint towards less content or production time than in past years. I could theorise that the other releases that are coming out around the same time, such as the new PA and sisters release, would mean less time devoted to CA. I hope that some of the lesser Xenos races gets stuff, and that the other Space Marine factions get updated to at least match the vanilla Space Marine codex. We'll see soon enough.

No need for them to put all that effort into CA when we're gonna see 8.5/9th edition soon.

Assuming this is true (and I think it's likely), we might be in for a long wait for certain factions. They can still at least update the points for Space Wolves, Blood Angels etc to match the SM Vanilla codex atm. If any factions have to wait longer than another year for an update, then it would be better to update in Chapter Approved.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/24/coming-soon-blood-of-baal-battleforces-and-beyond/

Whatever Warhammer 40,000 army you play, you’ll want to get a copy of this year’s Chapter Approved – the essential annual update for all gamers in the 41st Millennium. This year, we’ve separated Chapter Approved into two bundled books for your convenience.

Try new missions and ways to play with Chapter Approved 2019 itself, then build your matched play lists with the Munitorum Field Manual – a reference guide with points for everything currently in Warhammer 40,000. The Field Manual doesn’t just contain updated points, but unchanged ones too, meaning you’ll only have to look in once place when writing your lists!

That's actually convenient, wtf GW what happened?

Darsath wrote:
Assuming this is true (and I think it's likely), we might be in for a long wait for certain factions. They can still at least update the points for Space Wolves, Blood Angels etc to match the SM Vanilla codex atm. If any factions have to wait longer than another year for an update, then it would be better to update in Chapter Approved.

I have two little birds that tell me secrets. The one that told me about this has foot in the door in Nottingham, in his words.

Not a lot is changing, really. It's more of an updated rulebook with all the changes since 8th dropped. Nu-Marines won't need a new Codex, but the others are going to see updates. About all we'll get to herald this change is another SM vs. Somebody box with no new models.

Pretty nice having a book with all the point values.

Curious why all the insider-informants reporting on point changes for Tank Commanders and 2 wounds for Khorne Berzerkers and all that didn't mention this.

 Crazyterran wrote:
That's actually convenient, wtf GW what happened?

Wow, GW. Talk about insane timing...


...GW can't... make insanely hot naked chicks at my house with a keg full of beer!


...and now we wait.

So do we buy both books separately, or do we get both books at once? How much are they separately, because I have a sneaking suspicion that they are going to increase the price.

Unless I'm looking at it wrong, it looks like the points book is a soft cover, while the normal chapter approved is hard cover. Could that mean a lower lead up time for that book?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So do we buy both books separately, or do we get both books at once? How much are they separately, because I have a sneaking suspicion that they are going to increase the price.

It'll be just like AoS General's Handbook, two books packed together. The points book for AoS is a smaller stable-bound thing and the main Handbook has all the rules and missions and whatnots.

It says "bundled" so I would say that they come together.

 Crazyterran wrote:
That's actually convenient, wtf GW what happened?

It'd be more convenient if it was separate or... you know, an online update.

If it's like the others and the GHB, you can buy it online, so it counts?

Always have to be so negative over something that is overall a better change.

Voss wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
That's actually convenient, wtf GW what happened?

It'd be more convenient if it was separate or... you know, an online update.

We really should all push for an App with membership for updated rules and codexes. Is 2020 ffs...

I'm laughing at the timing of the announcement. On a more serious note, I think it's a good idea to print the points separately in a different book. And printing all points values is actually convenient, since it lets you look at other faction's stuff too. Should also make getting the points updates cheaper and better, which is a shocking move on Games Workshop's part. We'll find out more in the next week, but excellent news. So far, going strong.

Voss wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
That's actually convenient, wtf GW what happened?

It'd be more convenient if it was separate or... you know, an online update.

Well you might save couple euro\s for it that way sure. What? You expect them to give new points for free?

But at least they made sensible option and went for all points in one place. Only 2 iterations too late. There never was point for having points at the back of book rather than at the datasheet if update wasn't for whole back pages. Took only 2 years for GW to figure out the obvious

It does pave the way for a Munitorum field manual ebook that gets updated

Darsath wrote:
I'm laughing at the timing of the announcement. On a more serious note, I think it's a good idea to print the points separately in a different book. And printing all points values is actually convenient, since it lets you look at other faction's stuff too. Should also make getting the points updates cheaper and better, which is a shocking move on Games Workshop's part. We'll find out more in the next week, but excellent news. So far, going strong.

Its the 40k team running behind AoS again. So not really that shocking.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
That's actually convenient, wtf GW what happened?

Wow, GW. Talk about insane timing...


...GW can't... make insanely hot naked chicks at my house with a keg full of beer!


...and now we wait.

Certainly the beer is doable, no?

 jeff white wrote:
Certainly the beer is doable, no?

Well, yes. But the kegs are heavy and I don't feel like going to the store.

 Ordana wrote:
Its the 40k team running behind AoS again. So not really that shocking.

Makes sense really. AoS lets them trial out riskier ideas which might be applicable to their 40k cash cow. Then they can incorporate it based on the overall reception.

 Crazyterran wrote:
If it's like the others and the GHB, you can buy it online, so it counts?

Always have to be so negative over something that is overall a better change.

Yeah a better change for GW are we thinking a 25% or 50% price increase or even higher your getting double the books now to tide you over 6mths until 9th drops and you need to spend again if the rumours are true.

Any news on the the open play and narrative content of chapter approved this year?

 Crazyterran wrote:
If it's like the others and the GHB, you can buy it online, so it counts?

Always have to be so negative over something that is overall a better change.

Yeah, having to buy an overall more expensive hardback to get the latest round of fixes in a cheap staple bound paperback is 'better.'

 Crazyterran wrote:
That's actually convenient, wtf GW what happened?

Them doing something we've wanted for years. .. is veeeery suspicious.

Hmm, don't think I'll need the points book, so not that happy if I can only buy both together for an increased price. We'll see.

Darsath wrote:
I'm laughing at the timing of the announcement. On a more serious note, I think it's a good idea to print the points separately in a different book. And printing all points values is actually convenient, since it lets you look at other faction's stuff too. Should also make getting the points updates cheaper and better, which is a shocking move on Games Workshop's part. We'll find out more in the next week, but excellent news. So far, going strong.

I think I’ve missed something, what’s the joke about the timing?

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Hmm, don't think I'll need the points book, so not that happy if I can only buy both together for an increased price. We'll see.

The rumoured prices have it at the same price as last year, let's hope that's true.

I find it funny because it effectively discredits all the "leaks" we've seen. If these leaks were accurate, I'd think "points will be in a separate book" would be one of the most important things to mention. As far as the announcement itself, I loved when they did this for AoS, and I love that they're doing it for 40k now. When the points and rules were in the same book for Chapter Approved/General's Handbook, people viewed the rules as outdated the same way they did the points. In reality, the rule were still completely valid. With the points being separate now, GW can just update points every year while keeping popular new rules in the game.

 Aenar wrote:

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Hmm, don't think I'll need the points book, so not that happy if I can only buy both together for an increased price. We'll see.

The rumoured prices have it at the same price as last year, let's hope that's true.

You don't even need to look at "rumored prices".

General's Handbook stayed the same when it switched formats.