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DP getting cheaper than a disco lord is the right call imho

 xttz wrote:

stormcraft wrote:
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Thats weird, Troupes are 13ppm base not 9. Fake photoshop job?

No, its posted on the official german 40k facebook page

The amiriger is that cheap?
I mean, why even bother with most dreds?

stormcraft wrote:
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demon prince dropping in pts?
Manipulus dropping like 30 pts?

how is this even remotely legit????

Newer models, better rules. Always the same gak.

NINJAED


nore from GW


I do hope the DP drop is only for CSM dp's-

 Imateria wrote:

Thats weird, Troupes are 13ppm base not 9. Fake photoshop job?

Looks like a copy/paste error from Scions or Banshees

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but it's nice that they'll be including ALL points in CA as opposed to just the ones changing.

A nice little nod to players tired of having to flip between books for accurate points values, now it's in one source.

Still not a virtual living document, but I'll take what I can get

For necrons, a 6 PPM drop on a 26 point model is pretty significant, and while I'm sure that's probably the biggest relative change for necrons (a 23% decrease in cost), I wonder what else is in the works. I had suspected that Necron shooting units will stay more or less the same, and that Necron melee units would get a cost reduction, and this seems to line up with that.

The other unit I'm rooting for a big change on is flayed ones, they haven't been viable in several editions, and a 3 or 4 point drop per model would make them very interesting.If they make it as low as 13 PPM, for 260 points they might be an answer to necrons over watch problem, a 20 body blob can recover quite easily from devastating overwatch results, daisy chains well for RP buffs, and can body a massive surface area.

chnmmr wrote:
2 point cheaper strikes isn’t going to do much for GKs. Their flaws are intrinsic and token point drops won’t fix it. We still are garbage at deepstriking, have awful psychic powers, nowhere near enough power choice compared to the number of psykers we have, and have generally poor ranged combat (excluding storm bolsters.). The announcement smells of ‘GKs will be the big winner this CA’ and I’m not falling for it. I simply don’t trust GW in this matter.

Four points cheaper.

Between PA and this, GW is really pushing those banshees.

I think that they just made it into quite a lot of lists.

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 Galas wrote:
The problem is that 17ppm for a 1W 3+SV model is... yikes.

At least YOURS aren't T3 S3.

Well yeah but those cost 9ppm (Normally). And can stack invulnerables. I mean, not saying sisters are OP or anything, just that a single wound model, in 40k right now, can't cost more than 11-13ppm to be really worth it unless it is protected with character rules or something.

Man, I wish 7 point Harlequins became reality.

Probably too good to be true.

Still wouldn't take Reavers at 16ppm though, they just don't have any real utility anymore.

Scions going to the same price as Skitarii Rangers makes me wish they'd realize just how badly they did the Rangers with the shift from Skitarii to AdMech.

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Spoletta wrote:
Between PA and this, GW is really pushing those banshees.

I think that they just made it into quite a lot of lists.

At this point the only thing they've got going for them is that they're dirt cheap. 210 for a min Vanguard detachment of Banshees with a Warlock to run up the board and maybe tie something up doesn't sound like a terrible plan, it just hurts my soul that his is literally the one and only use for Banshees, they still can't hurt a fly.

Not Online!!! wrote:
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nore from GW


I do hope the DP drop is only for CSM dp's-

I hope you meant Chaos Daemons DPs, they are the weakest of the bunch.

With Reaves at 16 I hope Seekers go down to 13 at least.

Cinderspirit wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
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nore from GW


I do hope the DP drop is only for CSM dp's-

I hope you meant Chaos Daemons DPs, they are the weakest of the bunch.

Guess so, both are not really something compared to the TS / DG ones. so i could live with the weaker ones getting cheaper.

could make chaos marines 8pts they'd still be crapper than cultists

 VladimirHerzog wrote:

stormcraft wrote:
https://m.facebook.com/420830645026189/posts/809799582795958/

demon prince dropping in pts?
Manipulus dropping like 30 pts?

how is this even remotely legit????

The Manipulus is currently a big waste of points, so that seems reasonable to me. Can't comment on the Prince.

I'm very interested in 7pt Scions. I've been thinking that bare squads (no HSVG or plasma) are reasonably viable when you take FRFSRF into account, and a points drop on the base unit might make that moreso.

Maybe grenade launchers/flamers will be more worth taking if they're carried by cheaper platforms.

 Latro_ wrote:
could make chaos marines 8pts they'd still be crapper than cultists

Actually at 8 pts you'd always pick them over cultists due to min 5 and therefore skimping on the troop tax.
Because god forbid the 10'000 year long veterans are actually decent enough and need everything handled by obliterators DP's or any other variety of units.

 Imateria wrote:
Still wouldn't take Reavers at 16ppm though, they just don't have any real utility anymore.

Really? I never looked at them before, but now that I am...are they really that worthless?

Seems like there's some kind of cool stuff there from PA for them.

Not a single mention of Ork units, which makes me think those grot and mek nerf rumors might actually be true. Yeah, the squigbuggy is a great choice at 135pts compared to an armiger at 145. And the stompa is still definitely worth 925... right?

CHE up 15 points... Still undercosted auto take meta garbage thanks to the new power.. Grrrrr.....

I really hope they adjust thereal under performers like vypers & aspects. But most of all PLs and AOK... Pls are so overcosted its sad.

catbarf wrote:
The Manipulus is currently a big waste of points, so that seems reasonable to me. Can't comment on the Prince.

I'm very interested in 7pt Scions. I've been thinking that bare squads (no HSVG or plasma) are reasonably viable when you take FRFSRF into account, and a points drop on the base unit might make that moreso.

Maybe grenade launchers/flamers will be more worth taking if they're carried by cheaper platforms.

The manipulus is the second best HQ that we have right now... The utility he brings is invaluable.

Red Grief Reaves are awesome, they can tie up lots of things turn 1 and are pretty tanky with T5 4+/6+++

Cinderspirit wrote:
Red Grief Reaves are awesome, they can tie up lots of things turn 1 and are pretty tanky with T5 4+/6+++

Agreed, that point drop is nice for such a suicidal unit.

Probably needs to be said. The article bounces between fully equipped and base cost. The facebook is purely their base point value. So banshees are down 2pts to 11 and harlies similar.