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Chapter Approved 2019 is the essential gaming toolbox for all Warhammer 40,000 fans. Whether you're looking to compile all of the rules that have featured in White Dwarf magazine throughout the year, or are looking for something new to expand your gaming experience, this is the perfect gaming supplement for you! Inside this 112-page softback book, you'll find:

- Rules for Spearhead – an expansion centred around tanks and vehicular combat

- Guidelines for linking your games of Warhammer 40,000: Kill Team, Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer 40000: Apocalypse

- Loads of new Missions as well as updates to terrain rules and datasheets for certain Chaos Daemons units

- And much, much more…

In addition, you'll also find a separate 56-page book containing all the latest matched play points updates, painstakingly balanced and tuned in conjunction with major tournament organisers and our playtesters.

The Warlord's Edition also includes a variety of exclusive gaming accessories:
- 1 pad of 50 tear out army roster sheets
- 2 game trackers designed for keeping track of both Command and Victory Points in your games
- 3 packs of cards featuring content taken directly from the Chapter Approved book, available as handy references (18 Mission cards, 35 Stratagem cards and 36 Generator cards)

Whether you like to experiment with new rules, missions and expansions, or combine your campaigns like never before – however you play, Chapter Approved has something for you and is a fitting guide to another incredible year of Warhammer 40,000.
   
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord




Initially I thought "yes, new generic strats for everyone" then realised it's likely for the narrative scenarios.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




Wow. That GSC nerf is brutal!

Where are they at? 46% win percentage?
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut







 Tibs Ironblood wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Aenar wrote:
I just hope some of the reviewers who get these advance copies of the CA will upload their videos tomorrow, going very slowly through pages well in focus so you can clearly read all the points.
The first reviewer to do that gets many views just from me.

Or you could wait a week, and legally acquire the information.


Nothing illegal about watching a guy on the internet going over point changes and using BS instead of buying the book. ^^


Watching a video of someone going over the changes, then buying the book when released? Generally fine, depending on how much detail the reviewer goes into (highlights as a tease? OK. As described by the person I first responded to, panning the camera slowly over the pages so that everything is legible? Not fine.)

Watching a video of someone going over the changes, then using BS (appropriate acronym, really) instead of (as opposed to as well as) buying the book? That's piracy, pure and simple, which I thought this place didn't encourage.

2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG

My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





What about not watching a video, but still using battlescribe instead of buying the book? It would seem the video part is irrelevant?
   
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna






I feel some people in this thread never heard of "moral compass".
   
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Dakka Veteran




 Emicrania wrote:
I feel some people in this thread never heard of "moral compass".


I gave up when someone insinuated that breaking an opponents arm was a valid method of wining and it went unchallenged for a couple pages. At this point I'm glad no one tries to do a belly flop onto my miniatures to secure the in game advantage of the opponent not having an army.

That said, Sign deserves to go up to 15, 10 was a joke for what that thing does. The rest hurts me. An acolyte is not 8/11s a marine. A marine survives freaking lasgun fire far better.
   
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo





Twilight Pathways wrote:
What about not watching a video, but still using battlescribe instead of buying the book? It would seem the video part is irrelevant?


Sensible opponents say no. Too many errors in bs to rely. Not to mention it's dirt easy to modify

2024 painted/bought: 109/109 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Sunny Side Up wrote:
Wow. That GSC nerf is brutal!

Where are they at? 46% win percentage?
Before SM's they were at 53 ish, now they are at 49/50.
Problem is that its an army that was great in the right hands and completely terrible in the wrong ones.
But yeah, those nerfs make the 'meta' GSC list some 200 points more expensive. Which is probably going to completely kill the army competitively when most other lists are getting cheaper.

Edit: Having checked GMG's review quick. the rumors where half right.
Acolyte hybrids unchanged.
Abberants up to 19?
Stop sign up 15 to 25.
no change for rocksaws.

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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan






 Dysartes wrote:
 Aenar wrote:
I just hope some of the reviewers who get these advance copies of the CA will upload their videos tomorrow, going very slowly through pages well in focus so you can clearly read all the points.
The first reviewer to do that gets many views just from me.

Or you could wait a week, and legally acquire the information.


Do you think GW sends so many review copies of books out with the expectation that the details will be kept top secret? They want the information out there to drive sales. If someone reads about some awesome new rules for Death Company Intercessors today, they'll be tempted to include a box with their PA3 order. Same applies to anything potentially affected by new rules or point changes.

Edit:
Blood of Baal Tyranids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3tBCm9_6qU
Whole book
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MODWPGeCBYU

CA19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8E-oNoe44k

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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph






Ork leaks pleeeeeez!
   
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Norn Queen






Dublin, Ireland

And Nidssssss!

Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be

By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

"Feelin' goods, good enough". 
   
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk






All points in this video, including orks:



Orks start somewhere at 32:30, watching it right now.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




 Ordana wrote:
Sunny Side Up wrote:
Wow. That GSC nerf is brutal!

Where are they at? 46% win percentage?
Before SM's they were at 53 ish, now they are at 49/50.
Problem is that its an army that was great in the right hands and completely terrible in the wrong ones.
But yeah, those nerfs make the 'meta' GSC list some 200 points more expensive. Which is probably going to completely kill the army competitively when most other lists are getting cheaper.

Edit: Having checked GMG's review quick. the rumors where half right.
Acolyte hybrids unchanged.
Abberants up to 19?
Stop sign up 15 to 25.
no change for rocksaws.


I don’t think GSC ever won a big tournament, no?

Sure, some skilled players did ok, but never to the extend similar top players did with Tau or Plaguebearers or the like.
   
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 Dysartes wrote:
 Tibs Ironblood wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Aenar wrote:
I just hope some of the reviewers who get these advance copies of the CA will upload their videos tomorrow, going very slowly through pages well in focus so you can clearly read all the points.
The first reviewer to do that gets many views just from me.

Or you could wait a week, and legally acquire the information.


Nothing illegal about watching a guy on the internet going over point changes and using BS instead of buying the book. ^^


Watching a video of someone going over the changes, then buying the book when released? Generally fine, depending on how much detail the reviewer goes into (highlights as a tease? OK. As described by the person I first responded to, panning the camera slowly over the pages so that everything is legible? Not fine.)

Watching a video of someone going over the changes, then using BS (appropriate acronym, really) instead of (as opposed to as well as) buying the book? That's piracy, pure and simple, which I thought this place didn't encourage.

That isn't piracy. Battlescribe is not a copy of the book it is an alternative. Is it marginally gray at best? Yes. Printing out a pdf is piracy. Downloading a pdf is piracy. You can get on your noble high-horse and call it piracy all you want, but using things that are available online without producing/distributing a copy yourself is not piracy. Fairly certain you can't copyright stats, rules, etc and you can only copyright the way they are being presented. Come to think of it, it was your thread that got answered contrary to the point you are trying to make now and then locked by an admin after confirming it. Telling people to look for downloadable PDFs is advocating for piracy. Telling people to use battlescribe and look online for places they can find the rules is not advocating for piracy. See the important difference?
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Sunny Side Up wrote:
 Ordana wrote:
Sunny Side Up wrote:
Wow. That GSC nerf is brutal!

Where are they at? 46% win percentage?
Before SM's they were at 53 ish, now they are at 49/50.
Problem is that its an army that was great in the right hands and completely terrible in the wrong ones.
But yeah, those nerfs make the 'meta' GSC list some 200 points more expensive. Which is probably going to completely kill the army competitively when most other lists are getting cheaper.

Edit: Having checked GMG's review quick. the rumors where half right.
Acolyte hybrids unchanged.
Abberants up to 19?
Stop sign up 15 to 25.
no change for rocksaws.


I don’t think GSC ever won a big tournament, no?

Sure, some skilled players did ok, but never to the extend similar top players did with Tau or Plaguebearers or the like.
GSC won some tournaments and has a pretty consistent top showing, obviously now suffering from the SM domination like everyone is.
https://www.40kstats.com/top-4s
   
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph






 Jidmah wrote:
All points in this video, including orks:



Orks start somewhere at 32:30, watching it right now.


Unless I’m missing something, Orks have had no changes at all.
   
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Genestealer Cults

Aberrants +3
- Heavy Improvised Weapon +15
Metamorphs -2
- Claw -2
Kelermorph +15
Ridgerunner -15
Leman Russ -15

Rock Drill -2

Already known:
Missile launcher -5
Mortar +2
Clearance Incinerator -10
Demo charge +5
Hvy Mining Laser -10
hvy Seismic Cannon -5
   
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Avian wrote:
Genestealer Cults

Aberrants +3
- Heavy Improvised Weapon +15
Metamorphs -2
- Claw -2
Kelermorph +15
Ridgerunner -15
Leman Russ -15

Rock Drill -2

Already known:
Missile launcher -5
Mortar +2
Clearance Incinerator -10
Demo charge +5
Hvy Mining Laser -10
hvy Seismic Cannon -5


metamorphs same cost as acolytes? :O 3x10 then.
   
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Power-Hungry Cultist of Tzeentch




So after seeing this I have a feeling that TS are about to replace GK as the worst performing army, more increases then decreases, on the tzeench daemons front LoC went down 20 but the herald of tzentch went stealthily up 14 points leaving the battalion cost pretty unchanged.
Alright time to get back to the usual hope "maybe in the next book TS will get something" or just roll us back into the CSM book as the seems to be doing well with the point cuts while we get psychicly shafted
OK Rant over. Will be back whenever TS will be mentioned in PA if ever

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Ork changes:

Bommdakka -20
Kopta -10
KBB -20
Skrappjet -10
Rukkatrukk -40
Dragsta -18
Warbike Nobz -5
Deff Dreads -10
Flashgitz -6
Killakan -10
Stompa -50
Smashagunz +2
Skorcha Missle -15


So GW is BEGGING us to buy those fething buggies meanwhile doing NOTHING for the rest of the fething army. We are stuck in the same repetitive army for another year.
Oh yeah -50 points on a stompa.
feth YOU.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





Custodes:

Allarus -5
SC -10
Allarus SC -10
LR -12
Traj -5
Axe -3
Spear -3
Misericordia -1
Stormshield -5
Vexilla Imperius -30

Not sure about FW except for:
Caladius -10


Drukhari:

In the d6 evolution video they state that Talos have NOT gone up?!


Harlequins:

Neuro disruptors not dropped TO 5, they dropped BY 5. Finally!


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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna






The nerf train has spared us and flashgitz are better.
The sunny side ...
   
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut





UK

lol smasha guns +2 points, yea... i'm still taking 9

 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




Yeah, also Tank Commanders did not go up, unlike some clickbait suggested.
   
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Infiltrating Broodlord





London

Okay, so stand down the GSC panic. Abberants seem to have been nerfed into the ground for no real reason, but they weren't such a core part of the army that's a crisis, just a shame. The Kellermorph isn't an autotake any more, but it's not a disaster.

Shooting got a lot cheaper, but the points reductions to Russes mean they're still probably the better option - at least it's touch an go with GSC vehicles with heavy mining lasers though if you want more mobility.

They finally made Metamorphs cheap enough they're worth thinking about, and didn't change anything about Acolytes which are the core of most people's armies. My army probably nets out points wise, which is fine.

The points differential between Cult Genestealers and Tyranid ones looks even worse though, and I don't understand why that wasn't fixed.
   
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel






 Emicrania wrote:
Ork changes:

Bommdakka -20
Kopta -10
KBB -20
Skrappjet -10
Rukkatrukk -40
Dragsta -18
Warbike Nobz -5
Deff Dreads -10
Flashgitz -6
Killakan -10
Stompa -50
Smashagunz +2
Skorcha Missle -15


So GW is BEGGING us to buy those fething buggies meanwhile doing NOTHING for the rest of the fething army. We are stuck in the same repetitive army for another year.
Oh yeah -50 points on a stompa.
feth YOU.


This is an insult to Ork players. However, from the sounds of it, our gretchin stayed the same so at least that rumour is BS. Unless they did go up and I missed it.

Really shows how these things are a waste of money, GW should have a team doing yearly adjustments for free! All these excuses people sy "Just pirate it, borrow it or use BS" are just excuses. Gw clearly expects you to pay for minimum work. Take up my actions and just don't buy it this year, show them it's unacceptable to sell us patches.

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The dark behind the eyes.

tneva82 wrote:
Twilight Pathways wrote:
What about not watching a video, but still using battlescribe instead of buying the book? It would seem the video part is irrelevant?


Sensible opponents say no. Too many errors in bs to rely.


By that logic, sensible opponents should also refuse to play against GW's own books.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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 Ratius wrote:
And Nidssssss!


Biovores 40 (-10)
Exocrine 155 (-15)
Gargoyles 5 (-1)
Haruspex 150 (-20)
Raveners 18 (-5)

Malanthrope 120 (-20)
   
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 The Phazer wrote:
Okay, so stand down the GSC panic. Abberants seem to have been nerfed into the ground for no real reason, but they weren't such a core part of the army that's a crisis, just a shame. The Kellermorph isn't an autotake any more, but it's not a disaster.

Shooting got a lot cheaper, but the points reductions to Russes mean they're still probably the better option - at least it's touch an go with GSC vehicles with heavy mining lasers though if you want more mobility.

They finally made Metamorphs cheap enough they're worth thinking about, and didn't change anything about Acolytes which are the core of most people's armies. My army probably nets out points wise, which is fine.

The points differential between Cult Genestealers and Tyranid ones looks even worse though, and I don't understand why that wasn't fixed.
Most GSC lists were running 2x10 Aberrants so saying they were not a core part of the army seems wrong to me.
Otherwise mostly agree tho.
   
 
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