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Fantasy is back baby! Check the news. Sounds like it'll take years though to get back up.

Love it, just a bummer it's so far off. Still fantastic news!!!

also the end of the article makes it sounds like a form of apo is coming to AoS besides the return to the old world

Not sure I see the point in this announcement if I'm being honest. The game is 2-3 years away, and the only thing they have at the moment is a logo.

Fantasy will return, I am overjoyed!

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Fantasy is back baby! Check the news. Sounds like it'll take years though to get back up.

the old world is coming back, we don't know how exactly, it might be a completely different game in the same setting

Darsath wrote:
Not sure I see the point in this announcement if I'm being honest. The game is 2-3 years away, and the only thing they have at the moment is a logo.

Yup, and let's be real for a moment after chapterhouse you really think GW aren't going to mess with the setting in some capacity?

terry wrote:
also the end of the article makes it sounds like a form of apo is coming to AoS besides the return to the old world

It mentions Hysh, so most likely references the Light Elves of Tyrion.

That aside, great, they dug up the corpse and will now wear it like a bathrobe and worse, waste studio time and effort on it.

I'm out. Too far in the future for me to get excited about atm and in the off chance old models return, now I'll avoid buying oop models off Ebay

shinros wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Boom goes the dynamite.

See here's the thing, I don't see the point of this announcement when it's years away and it's being handled by forge world. As I said in my last post, tempering expectations.

There was no point for gw to early leak sisters either to build up hype. Yet they did. Unlike old gw new gw understands pr. About only thing that changed

terry wrote:
also the end of the article makes it sounds like a form of apo is coming to AoS besides the return to the old world

Really, I just took it as new arc and associated armies centered around Hysh. Realm of Light and draenei High Elves and whatever.

As someone who prefers AOS but understands the nostalgia for the old world, I’m ok with it coming back but also glad it’s not soon. AOS will be a mature enough game by then to stand on its own and not get swamped by a wave of old world nostalgia.

Honestly the most exciting part of that article for me were the hints about AOS giants and Hysh.

tneva82 wrote:

shinros wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Boom goes the dynamite.

See here's the thing, I don't see the point of this announcement when it's years away and it's being handled by forge world. As I said in my last post, tempering expectations.

There was no point for gw to early leak sisters either to build up hype. Yet they did. Unlike old gw new gw understands pr. About only thing that changed

If I recall correctly the time frame for sisters was shorter, they are literally saying years away in this trailer. I honestly think it's not going to be the same.

I'm happy it's coming back in one capacity or another, but not so sure about announcing it with 2-3 years to wait.

shinros wrote:

Darsath wrote:
Not sure I see the point in this announcement if I'm being honest. The game is 2-3 years away, and the only thing they have at the moment is a logo.

Yup, and let's be real for a moment after chapterhouse you really think GW aren't going to mess with the setting in some capacity?

Maybe gw has learned all they did with those is make silly names that have zero effect on 3rd party sales? Note they have relaxed their attittudes and done things now they never did after chapter house and show miniatures months ahead giving 3rd parties time to put in alternatives before official model comes

*sighs*

So. KOW 3E hits and shows real signs of growth, while ASOIAF looks like it might escape the CMON vortex and start to gain momentum itself. GW meanwhile takes serious flak for junking core parts of the WHFB legacy (read: High Elves), scraping others together into an unfocused hodge podge effort (Cities of Sigmar, vaguely The Orc Book) and being pretty unclear about what they're doing with others (Tomb Kings + Brets). There's some fumbling around behind the scenes, some numbers get crunched, backstock of legacy models evaluated, and a vague as feth announcement about returning to the RNF market, you know eventually, is made while they figure out how little they can invest and how hard they can lean on the Warhammer name. The gestures towards the hit video games set in that world sorta confirm this is about IP leveraging, name recognition and nostalgia, with no models or plans to even hint at.

The GeeDubbery is strong with this one

tneva82 wrote:
40k legend stuff is exactly stuff not on sale period. Has gw said aos legends is different?

Honestly, I have no idea. I probably am not succinct enough in my terminology. All I meant was that I hope it "returns" old Fantasy stuff not currently in regular production to regular production.

Darsath wrote:
Not sure I see the point in this announcement if I'm being honest. The game is 2-3 years away, and the only thing they have at the moment is a logo.

Realistically, I think it's a "shots fired" kind of thing, with regards to other companies and to have people, who are/were interested in the "old" aesthetics and gameplay, to pay more attention to GW again.

tneva82 wrote:

shinros wrote:

Darsath wrote:
Not sure I see the point in this announcement if I'm being honest. The game is 2-3 years away, and the only thing they have at the moment is a logo.

Yup, and let's be real for a moment after chapterhouse you really think GW aren't going to mess with the setting in some capacity?

Maybe gw has learned all they did with those is make silly names that have zero effect on 3rd party sales? Note they have relaxed their attittudes and done things now they never did after chapter house and show miniatures months ahead giving 3rd parties time to put in alternatives before official model comes

Well I am the cynical one, I think they are going to change the setting in some way.

 Boss Salvage wrote:
*sighs*

So. KOW 3E hits and shows real signs of growth, while ASOIAF looks like it might escape the CMON vortex and start to gain momentum itself. GW meanwhile takes serious flak for junking core parts of the WHFB legacy (read: High Elves), scraping others together into an unfocused hodge podge effort (Cities of Sigmar, vaguely The Orc Book) and being pretty unclear about what they're doing with others (Tomb Kings + Brets). There's some fumbling around behind the scenes, some numbers get crunched, backstock of legacy models evaluated, and a vague as feth announcement about returning to the RNF market, you know eventually, is made while they figure out how little they can invest and how hard they can lean on the Warhammer name. The gestures towards the hit video games set in that world sorta confirm this is about IP leveraging, name recognition and nostalgia, with no models or plans to even hint at.

The GeeDubbery is strong with this one

See I prefer AOS but this is sort of my view on the subject, they are essentially dragging out a battered corpse.

The fact that they keep saying it's years away makes me think it's really not

And what next, then, for Warhammer Age of Sigmar?

There are some HUGE (some might say giant) plans for the Mortal Realms… More news soon. For now, we have to keep it hysh-hysh.

An army of Light Gargants?

The Olde Worlde was and is awesome.

I look forward to seeing what this all means.

Especially if it means I'll be able to play a mass battle ranked up fantasy game AND find opponents near me!

shinros wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

shinros wrote:

Darsath wrote:
Not sure I see the point in this announcement if I'm being honest. The game is 2-3 years away, and the only thing they have at the moment is a logo.

Yup, and let's be real for a moment after chapterhouse you really think GW aren't going to mess with the setting in some capacity?

Maybe gw has learned all they did with those is make silly names that have zero effect on 3rd party sales? Note they have relaxed their attittudes and done things now they never did after chapter house and show miniatures months ahead giving 3rd parties time to put in alternatives before official model comes

Well I am the cynical one, I think they are going to change the setting in some way.

That would make doing it (and announcing it) incredibly pointless.

I like AoS, but I do miss the Old World setting sometimes, so I’m looking forward to this even if just for some more of the setting.

 Boss Salvage wrote:
and being pretty unclear about what they're doing with others (Tomb Kings + Brets).

Those 2 factions are compendium armies, without current models, so you can assume that they're not coming to AoS as a fully fledged army

Ahhhhh, GW do something people have been asking for.

Then comes the complaining.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Ahhhhh, GW do something people have been asking for.

Then comes the complaining.

Nah, I am just trying to remain realistic. I honestly don't think it's not going to be the same(lore wise) and then the question is what edition are they going to build from?

I'm absolutely floored by this news.

I love the comparison. That The Old World is AoS's Horus Heresy.

Well played GW. Well played indeed.

This seems really smart to me. GW likes money. Age of Sigmar has succeeded beyond any reasonable expectations (outside of the GW board rooms dreams), but it was a very bold move to reboot a game. Five years later, it's barely even a reboot anymore, it's a completely different game. How many battletome armies include old world models still?

I think GW saw that AOS has built a fan base more or less separate from WFB, and that other companies were filling the void they left. Kings of War is going strong, 9th Age won't die, and ASOIAF is looking feisty. Why not sell some rule books and backstock minis?

 Polonius wrote:
This seems really smart to me. GW likes money. Age of Sigmar has succeeded beyond any reasonable expectations (outside of the GW board rooms dreams), but it was a very bold move to reboot a game. Five years later, it's barely even a reboot anymore, it's a completely different game. How many battletome armies include old world models still?

I think GW saw that AOS has built a fan base more or less separate from WFB, and that other companies were filling the void they left. Kings of War is going strong, 9th Age won't die, and ASOIAF is looking feisty. Why not sell some rule books and backstock minis?

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Yup this essentially a pure business decision to undercut the competition. Good move.