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I was gonna jump in with some fervor, but this broke that combo.

they Haven't done Primaris Terminators? then i looked up aggressors and realized they are like centurions. then i rattled my brain on the other variants of modern power armored super human for awhile and realized they've all melded into a power armored mush in my head.

hey, you want primaris termies, whatever that is gonna mean, have fun, because it'll probably happen, though around the time they finally make melee primaris. but about the time i hear "primaris drop pod" i can't take this seriously anymore in either direction, and i guess i just accept this now. just bring on 30k part 2 since at this rate it's were we are going. get the chaos marines some REAL good stuff while we're at it. bring noise marine guitars back.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Tbf if gw handled traitor guard correctly it is a exotic thing.

Big on the"IF"

The sad thing is that traitor guard would probably be better guard than guard.

Thrilled to see new Primaris Space Marine stuff replacing the older stuff.

...and here... we... go...

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
Thrilled to see new Primaris Space Marine stuff replacing the older stuff.

...and here... we... go...

Honestly if everything was redone as Primaris scale for Mk3-4 I'd literally drop a bunch of money on it

A lot of people would!

Do we know (roughly) when GW will un-pixelate that pic for us?

 Alpharius wrote:
A lot of people would!

Do we know (roughly) when GW will un-pixelate that pic for us?

there's a big show thingy saturday so if we don't see an offical announcement then I'm perpared to call the pic a fake

BrianDavion wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
A lot of people would!

Do we know (roughly) when GW will un-pixelate that pic for us?

there's a big show thingy saturday so if we don't see an offical announcement then I'm perpared to call the pic a fake

If it’s really not coming until later in the year they probably just won’t acknowledge it. The sculpt for Mortarion leaked in tiny blurry pictures months before he was released and they just ignored it.

 ImAGeek wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
A lot of people would!

Do we know (roughly) when GW will un-pixelate that pic for us?

there's a big show thingy saturday so if we don't see an offical announcement then I'm perpared to call the pic a fake

If it’s really not coming until later in the year they probably just won’t acknowledge it. The sculpt for Mortarion leaked in tiny blurry pictures months before he was released and they just ignored it.

maybe but WHC useally previews stuff even if months out when it leaks, remember the IF and sallies chars?

BrianDavion wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
A lot of people would!

Do we know (roughly) when GW will un-pixelate that pic for us?

there's a big show thingy saturday so if we don't see an offical announcement then I'm perpared to call the pic a fake

If it’s really not coming until later in the year they probably just won’t acknowledge it. The sculpt for Mortarion leaked in tiny blurry pictures months before he was released and they just ignored it.

maybe but WHC useally previews stuff even if months out when it leaks, remember the IF and sallies chars?

They weren’t that far out when they leaked. They revealed them after the leak on the 18th September, and they were released on the 19th October.

 Insurgency Walker wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Tbf if gw handled traitor guard correctly it is a exotic thing.

Big on the"IF"

The sad thing is that traitor guard would probably be better guard than guard.

The sad thing was that Traitor guard or R&H were the better guard from a fell perspective then IG in 7th during IA13.
What with the customizability and options that basically allowed for actual variety for regiment types.

(also working infantry, as in you'd actually like to pick your troops, which if anything is darn impressive in edition spam xyz elite FA or support choice to win.)

 ImAGeek wrote:
They weren’t that far out when they leaked. They revealed them after the leak on the 18th September, and they were released on the 19th October.

Yeah. I think they might say something if they're coming in the first quarter. If they're not coming until summer then I expect they'll just ignore it.

Bdrone wrote:
I was gonna jump in with some fervor, but this broke that combo.

they Haven't done Primaris Terminators? then i looked up aggressors and realized they are like centurions. then i rattled my brain on the other variants of modern power armored super human for awhile and realized they've all melded into a power armored mush in my head.

hey, you want primaris termies, whatever that is gonna mean, have fun, because it'll probably happen, though around the time they finally make melee primaris. but about the time i hear "primaris drop pod" i can't take this seriously anymore in either direction, and i guess i just accept this now. just bring on 30k part 2 since at this rate it's were we are going. get the chaos marines some REAL good stuff while we're at it. bring noise marine guitars back.

Yeah man, Aggressors are totally different than terminators. Aggressors put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee, while terminators put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee but hold the bolt shot weapon in ONE HAND and the powerfist in the OTHER HAND.

One thing I absolutely do not like with Primaris is the lack of heavy weapons, or option to upgrade a special weapon in a unit. Aggressors might be somewhat like Terminators (minus the important teleportation, but who's nitpicking), but no option to add an assault cannon, cyclone etc. Same with Intercessors, where's my lascannon, or adding a single helblaster to the squad.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
Thrilled to see new Primaris Space Marine stuff replacing the older stuff.

...and here... we... go...

Indeed! It is great, I can't wait!

the_scotsman wrote:

Yeah man, Aggressors are totally different than terminators. Aggressors put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee, while terminators put out short range S4 bolt shots and are armed with powerfists in melee but hold the bolt shot weapon in ONE HAND and the powerfist in the OTHER HAND.

Aggressors just don't look terminatory enough. Gravis is just a bit bulkier power armour. Yes, currently they're mechanically similar, but if terminators are redesigned, they don't need to be. I think terminators have lacked a clear role for a while. I think their role should be monster hunters. Super tough elite guys that go against all the big critters , robots etc. Hulkbusters. They should look bulky and imposing and have hard hitting but short ranged/melee weapons.

Terminators will always look unique because they are anatomically incorrect to a laughable degree. Aggressors are in line with a terminator, they just don't house the marines head in their stomach.

It's funny because the thing that made a terminator so distinct is the thing most people constantly want corrected.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Terminators will always look unique because they are anatomically incorrect to a laughable degree. Aggressors are in line with a terminator, they just don't house the marines head in their stomach.

It's funny because the thing that made a terminator so distinct is the thing most people constantly want corrected.

You can have that hunched profile without blatant anatomical impossibility. Both the Custodes terminators and Abaddon are examples of that. This is actually why I was disappointed by the newest chaos termies and why I want primaris termies. They know how to do this now.

 bullyboy wrote:
One thing I absolutely do not like with Primaris is the lack of heavy weapons, or option to upgrade a special weapon in a unit. Aggressors might be somewhat like Terminators (minus the important teleportation, but who's nitpicking), but no option to add an assault cannon, cyclone etc. Same with Intercessors, where's my lascannon, or adding a single helblaster to the squad.

I think the ability to do mixed squads is actually in deathwatch, though i know very little about the specifics. as to why they have no weapon options, it makes sense for an experimental run, both in lore and in design. nor is it even all that weird, considering how few weapon options you get per unit outside of some armies. if anything at this point i kind of find it a benefit sometimes. can't complain about not enough weapon options in a box if theres none to choose from in the first place.

(mind you, i think they should just put enough dang weapon options in the boxes, but we are apparently past that...)

also, i decided to count the diferent variants of superarmored marine i know of thusfar. so theres 4 kinds of terminators, 2 types of centurions, and the aggressors i found so far. yeah, that about checks out. maybe they won't make primaris terminators, because Aggressors already exist.

...nah, they still totally will. gotta cash in on that, they are just waiting for it for some reason, though im not sure what. i would have relaunched the "iconic" marine variants off the jump.

It's a callback to the Legions, seemingly.

It's an "all or nothing" for unique weapons, barring a few cornercases(Eliminator Sergeants, Auxiliary Grenade Launchers for Intercessors are the two immediately coming to mind). Whole squads are outfitted with the same gear, resulting in less flexibility but more outlay of that gear.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Terminators will always look unique because they are anatomically incorrect to a laughable degree. Aggressors are in line with a terminator, they just don't house the marines head in their stomach.

It's funny because the thing that made a terminator so distinct is the thing most people constantly want corrected.

You mean - TACTICAL DREADNOUGHT ARMOUR? What a joke.

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's a callback to the Legions, seemingly.

It's an "all or nothing" for unique weapons, barring a few cornercases(Eliminator Sergeants, Auxiliary Grenade Launchers for Intercessors are the two immediately coming to mind). Whole squads are outfitted with the same gear, resulting in less flexibility but more outlay of that gear.

I'm fine with that. Gives each squad a clear role and looks nice. I just want the characters and non-intercessor sergeants to have decent gear options.

 aphyon wrote:
the_scotsman

funny story, good thing I can play 30K with all my current minis, no need for the primaris in my army.

That's not an exclusive 30K thing. I still play 2nd but don't tell GeeDubbs that or else they will go back in time to introduce Primaris there too.


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 Crimson wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

Drop pods having a model is a newish concept, fluff wise as an idea: primaris drop pods strip out the weapon systems to be totally collapsible after disembarking, reducing accidental damage and waste to chapter assets.

That's just stupid. And it would still be visible, it cannot completely vanish.

Why do you think there has to be a model to represent a model dropping in from orbit?

Because this is a model game and I want to represent stuff with cool looking models! Isn't it pretty damn obvious?

What's your stance about Assault Marines deploying via Thunderhawk? Should they require this gunship as a model too?

 Strg Alt wrote:

 aphyon wrote:
the_scotsman

funny story, good thing I can play 30K with all my current minis, no need for the primaris in my army.

That's not an exclusive 30K thing. I still play 2nd but don't tell GeeDubbs that or else they will go back in time to introduce Primaris there too.


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 Crimson wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

Drop pods having a model is a newish concept, fluff wise as an idea: primaris drop pods strip out the weapon systems to be totally collapsible after disembarking, reducing accidental damage and waste to chapter assets.

That's just stupid. And it would still be visible, it cannot completely vanish.

Why do you think there has to be a model to represent a model dropping in from orbit?

Because this is a model game and I want to represent stuff with cool looking models! Isn't it pretty damn obvious?

What's your stance about Assault Marines deploying via Thunderhawk? Should they require this gunship as a model too?

I'll gladly take a plastic Thunderhawk.

I'm sure there's going to be a plastic Thunderhawk eventually.

Queue BolS taking my post as proof and "eventually" being super soon.

@Platuan4th:

How big would a Thunderhawk model be in the Age of Size Fetish? And how many bucks would you expect GW to demand for it?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I'm sure there's going to be a plastic Thunderhawk eventually.

Queue BolS taking my post as proof and "eventually" being super soon.

I imagine we'll see a plastic thunderhawk soon.... as a Imperial Aeronautica Mini

 Strg Alt wrote:

What's your stance about Assault Marines deploying via Thunderhawk? Should they require this gunship as a model too?

The Thunderhawk doesn't land on the table, it probably doesn't even come near the table surface, the marines just jump off it from high altitude. Note how I don't expect the Strike Cruiser that launches the Drop Pods to have a model either.

 Crimson wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:

What's your stance about Assault Marines deploying via Thunderhawk? Should they require this gunship as a model too?

The Thunderhawk doesn't land on the table, it probably doesn't even come near the table surface, the marines just jump off it from high altitude. Note how I don't expect the Strike Cruiser that launches the Drop Pods to have a model either.

The same logic can be applied to bombers. In the past we just had a large template for bombardments. Then GW decided to introduce flyers for just that.

 Strg Alt wrote:

The same logic can be applied to bombers. In the past we just had a large template for bombardments. Then GW decided to introduce flyers for just that.

Well yeah. Having flyers that operate like aeroplanes in the game is kinda weird, but that ship has sailed. Personally I prefer hovery flyers that operate more like helicopters, they seem to make a bit more sense in this scale. I love my Stormpotato.

 Crimson wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:

What's your stance about Assault Marines deploying via Thunderhawk? Should they require this gunship as a model too?

The Thunderhawk doesn't land on the table, it probably doesn't even come near the table surface, the marines just jump off it from high altitude. Note how I don't expect the Strike Cruiser that launches the Drop Pods to have a model either.

This is the same company that produced a scaled down BFG model to represent the ability for a Chaos vessel to enter high altitude and do a bombardment in Epic.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:

What's your stance about Assault Marines deploying via Thunderhawk? Should they require this gunship as a model too?

The Thunderhawk doesn't land on the table, it probably doesn't even come near the table surface, the marines just jump off it from high altitude. Note how I don't expect the Strike Cruiser that launches the Drop Pods to have a model either.

This is the same company that produced a scaled down BFG model to represent the ability for a Chaos vessel to enter high altitude and do a bombardment in Epic.

Wait, what?