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Florence, KY

Cronch wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Cronch wrote:
That's one way to utilize the updated 2015 monsters. And I mean it in a nice way, they're clearly the best looking kits in the army right now, and I imagine a bunch of us love the lizards for their big monsters.


The Stegadon is actually much older than that. It’s held up really well.

Is it? Still must be past 2010 release, which is significantly younger than the 2001-2002 6th ed release of the foot skinks, sauruses and salamanders/slann.

The plastic Stegadon was released in February 2009:

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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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So is it just Stegadon armies, or could you just as easily bring an army full of Bastiladons?

The Bastiladon is such an awesome mini.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So is it just Stegadon armies, or could you just as easily bring an army full of Bastiladons?

The Bastiladon is such an awesome mini.

No. There's no indication that Bastiladons become Battleline or have a version that is a Leader. It does however up the number of Bastilidons you can take since they're no longer competing with Stegadons for those Behemoth slots.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Central Cimmeria

That pyramid is truly terrible. The bits on the top just look like they are a Saurus standard chopped up and glued to the top. No attachment point, no sense of weight, no interesting design

The leaves/vines going up the side are also truly awful and look completely 2D. They might as well have been painted on.

There have been a number of smaller companies that have released truly stunning imaginative Lizardmen in the last couple of years. GW just crapped in the bed with this release. It looks home made, and not in the good sense.
   
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Gosport, UK

Cronch wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Cronch wrote:
That's one way to utilize the updated 2015 monsters. And I mean it in a nice way, they're clearly the best looking kits in the army right now, and I imagine a bunch of us love the lizards for their big monsters.


The Stegadon is actually much older than that. It’s held up really well.

Is it? Still must be past 2010 release, which is significantly younger than the 2001-2002 6th ed release of the foot skinks, sauruses and salamanders/slann.


Feb 2009, as far as I can find.
   
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Lots of leaks have been happening for Seraphon on the WhatsApp and being talked about in the FB group, as well as on Lustria. Mixed/Divided reactions.

Lots of things still aren't known.

PourSpelur wrote:
It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't.
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Well the book goes on pre-order tomorrow so doesn't that mean we get the standard page by page flip through on youtube? Or do those only come on release day?

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 Overread wrote:
Well the book goes on pre-order tomorrow so doesn't that mean we get the standard page by page flip through on youtube? Or do those only come on release day?


Should get them tomorrow.
   
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Usually happens on Preorder days. The consensus is that those videos won't help much.

Why? Lots of folk are doubtful of reviewers knowing what to look for. Or that there won't be anything overtly powerful to see, so won't be much in-depth at first.

PourSpelur wrote:
It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't.
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Hazaak Dynasty - 3400 pts
Seraphon - 4600pts
 
   
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 Carnikang wrote:
Usually happens on Preorder days. The consensus is that those videos won't help much.

Why? Lots of folk are doubtful of reviewers knowing what to look for. Or that there won't be anything overtly powerful to see, so won't be much in-depth at first.


They usually do a flip through of the book, so anyone can look for whatever they’re looking for in them.
   
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Realmshaper engine sprue - 2 in a box by keeping the center panels a uniform shape they can be flipped and then the corners and extra pieces fill in the gaps. Clever design if somewhat basic looking overall. I assume you could combine several kits to make a bigger Ziggurat although it might need some trimming and filling here and there.

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I really like the look of that sprue. The arcing magic off of the ring will be nice for conversions if you don't use it on the Pyramid.

PourSpelur wrote:
It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't.
Hive Fleet Hercual - 6760pts
Hazaak Dynasty - 3400 pts
Seraphon - 4600pts
 
   
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Vigo. Spain.

here you have it boys. Temple Guard with two wounds

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls//Seraphon_warscroll_Saurus-Guard-en.pdf

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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All the warscrolls are out. Sauruses look like their got the extremely short end of the stick compared to skink/monster side of the army imo.
   
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Terradons are the new hotness.

PourSpelur wrote:
It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't.
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Hazaak Dynasty - 3400 pts
Seraphon - 4600pts
 
   
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Most of the changes seem good for removing redundant abilities and just rolling them into the units. A lot is going to depend on point values. Saurus got a bump in slightly smaller units and against non-rending units and same against rend 1. The worst part is going to be the wholly within and a lot of the bonuses went to CP instead which makes them worse. Overall Saurus will need a point drop since most of their combo's went away and they were already a bit high.

Tentatively excited.

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Points were leaked. They're fine, if not a little expensive in places for things like Razordons and Big Beasties.

PourSpelur wrote:
It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't.
Hive Fleet Hercual - 6760pts
Hazaak Dynasty - 3400 pts
Seraphon - 4600pts
 
   
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Vigo. Spain.

What is strange is that , barring skinks, shields don't have any hability associated. This is a first, I believe. And is a shame that skins losed their retreat hability. And I lost a game because of that fething hability, but it was very tactical.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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 Gallahad wrote:
That pyramid is truly terrible. The bits on the top just look like they are a Saurus standard chopped up and glued to the top. No attachment point, no sense of weight, no interesting design

The leaves/vines going up the side are also truly awful and look completely 2D. They might as well have been painted on.

There have been a number of smaller companies that have released truly stunning imaginative Lizardmen in the last couple of years. GW just crapped in the bed with this release. It looks home made, and not in the good sense.


It is not the Alter of Skulls, but hey, what terrain piece is save the Alter of Skulls. I really don't think it is nearly as bad as you make it out to be. Maybe snake pillars at the top could have had a bit better mounting blocks to give the impression they well secured in the ziggurat. Maybe the steps could have been a bit wider. The vines probably like the stuff on the Death Forest terrain which isn't bad but doesn't photograph well. I suspect the sides of the model were intentionally to keep in style of many ziggurats as well as actually prevent models from climbing on it and becoming practically impossible for for other models to charge them or more easily stay wholly within it's aura if any.

It certainly isn't going to be in the top ten best of 2020, but I think it will be at least serviceable if the price is the same as most of the other faction specific terrain pieces. I think a lot of the design appears to be limited to keep it on par with the other faction terrain which is why it has the issues it does. Chances are to make a better kit GW would have had to add an additional sprue thus making it the most expensive and possibly the largest foot print of faction terrains.

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I'm not sure if it has as much value in Sigmar, but a nice bulky LOS blocker terrain is always appreciated.
   
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If the Saurus warriors got the short end up the stick it hopefully.means that there are plans to eventually replace.them with new.flashy models with new flashy rules... sometime before.never.

   
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Hot damn! Now any army with them in it will definitely have a lot going for it!!!
   
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The Zig is a clever design. One sprue doubled makes the whole thing. I really like it. Might get two.

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- Trogs now regenerate.
- Basties now have a damage table.

I'm happy and angry!
   
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 Alpharius wrote:


Hot damn! Now any army with them in it will definitely have a lot going for it!!!

The problem is, they are now slower, worse saurus knights that have to take wounds for the slann if they're within 3" of it.
   
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Terrain Tutor has a video on the zig:



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Nice vid, not heard of that channel before. Happy to be wrong about the pyramid, looks a lot better than in the photos.

Sticking it upside down and placing it in a hill would make an interesting "stairway to the Lizardmen lair" type of scenery for D&D and suchlike. A throne from a Slann Priest or any of the top bits (throne, engine etc) from the Stegadon kit would also look great at the pyramid's summit.

Nice and versatile. Sold!
   
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Not heard of the Terrain Tutor before? Odd bloke. Very passionate. Very knowledgeable. Makes a lot of great videos, and it seems he has caught the eye of GW, hence the advanced terrain set.

And yeah, as soon as he turned it upside down my mind started spinning with the possibilities.

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 Galas wrote:
What is strange is that , barring skinks, shields don't have any hability associated. This is a first, I believe. And is a shame that skins losed their retreat hability. And I lost a game because of that fething hability, but it was very tactical.

Shields in general seem to be moving to a flat +1 to armor save with no abilities. It's there in Cities of Sigmar in quite a few spots.
   
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Wait, blocking for the big magic toads who can run rampant w/controlled endless spells is a bad thing? Sounds incredible to me, honestly.

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