Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.

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**Sarouan**

Overread wrote:

It's basically calling the same thing different names when armed with different weapons instead of just Slaangors armed with weapon A or weapon B

I also think it's important for gameplay keywords in AoS, making the distinction between all units labelled "slaangors" and the specific unit named "slaangors fiendbloods". Especially when they create rules affecting all slaangors or just very specific units from that same "species" (even if it's not always obvious when you talk about mutated beasts of Chaos).

So it's not just a "stupid idea" from GW here.

**Kanluwen**

mortar_crew wrote:
Carlovonsexron wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
WarCry card list suggests they did not.

Ah well, that's such a huge pity- the prospect of those was easily the most interesting of any of the underworlds characters.

Well there is still (thin) hope that they are on the page before the one we saw:
deamonettes, seekers, fiends are not here either and they are definitely
in the warcry card set for the hedonites (with the hellstriders as well).
I for sure would desapointed also if there is no models for them.

Here's the table of contents from Agents of Chaos:

Spoiler:

Daemons of Slaanesh are their own heading like Nurgle, Khorne, and Tzeentch were for their actual cardpacks. Hedonites didn't have too much in their roster when their cards got released so that's likely why the cards were Mortal and Daemon.

**mortar_crew**

Kanluwen wrote:
mortar_crew wrote:
Carlovonsexron wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
WarCry card list suggests they did not.

Ah well, that's such a huge pity- the prospect of those was easily the most interesting of any of the underworlds characters.

Well there is still (thin) hope that they are on the page before the one we saw:
deamonettes, seekers, fiends are not here either and they are definitely
in the warcry card set for the hedonites (with the hellstriders as well).
I for sure would desapointed also if there is no models for them.

Here's the table of contents from Agents of Chaos:

Spoiler:

Daemons of Slaanesh are their own heading like Nurgle, Khorne, and Tzeentch were for their actual cardpacks. Hedonites didn't have too much in their roster when their cards got released so that's likely why the cards were Mortal and Daemon.

So Slaanesh looks like to be from page 46 to 53, datasheets included.

**Ghaz**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ghaz wrote:
It depends on whether these are the equivalent of the Tzeentch Tzaangors or the equivalent of the Enlightened or Skyfires...
I don't think we're going to get multiple types of Slaangor, otherwise the options would've been in the Warcry book.

Same reason I doubt we'll get the bellydancer polearm girls.

A Skyfire would still be a Skyfire even if we didn't have the base Tzaangor models. We need to see the updated fluff for the Slaangors to see where the Fiendbloods fit in the Slaangor hierarchy.

**NinthMusketeer**

Could just be future proofing for additional slaangor units down the line. I think we all get used to the GW naming at some point. I've even come to enjoy it.

**Ghaz**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
Could just be future proofing for additional slaangor units down the line.

That's what I'm hoping for. I'd love to have a Slaangor warband next to my Tzaangor warflock

**GaroRobe**

If the Hellstriders with helmets and claw arms are a new unit, a la Flesheater courts, I wonder how long before they decide to do that for all factions with small ranges?

I can see them dividing up Blightkings into two units; one with armor and ones without. Call the former Plague Knights or something copyrightable.

**Kanluwen**

Sasori wrote:

Spoiler:

This release is going to be huge.

They're just Hellstriders.

The second page is unit champions.

**Togusa**

Hey all. I have a question, can't find an answer.

The question is

Is there a brand new faction codex slated for announcement or release in early 2021?

I swear I read this somewhere, but now I cannot find it and I'm second guessing myself. I did notice there is a TON of stuff in the rumor mill as of yet unrevealed that looks very much like AoS stuff.

**streetsamurai**

AOS is so.much better since the stopped pushing Stormcast. Not liking all of the new releases, but at least most of them are interesting.

Slaneesh mortals have been incredible so far. Unfortunately, i think we won't have more, except probably for the palaquin.

Must say that im surprised that they are keeping the hellstriders kit. Looks so bad compared to the new riders

**Voss**

Togusa wrote:
Hey all. I have a question, can't find an answer.

The question is

Is there a brand new faction codex slated for announcement or release in early 2021?

I swear I read this somewhere, but now I cannot find it and I'm second guessing myself. I did notice there is a TON of stuff in the rumor mill as of yet unrevealed that looks very much like AoS stuff.

Not that we know of. The 2021 update article https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/12/23/an-update-on-warhammer-releases-in-2021/
does mention an AoS Battletome for February, but its clearly Slaanesh

For Warhammer Age of Sigmar fans, you’ll see the next new battletome (and a bunch of incredible minis) drop in February. Trust us, this one’s a doozy – we’ll even give you a sneak peek on Christmas day!*

And lo, Slaanesh preview on the 25th.

January is Death Guard, Feb and March are Dark Angels and Dark Eldar. The only definite AoS thing is Slaanesh. The various rumor engine bits and bobs could be Underworlds, Warcry or whatever. Even theoretically a new Warhammer Quest box or some other one off (real outside chances there).

**Togusa**

Voss wrote:
Togusa wrote:
Hey all. I have a question, can't find an answer.

The question is

Is there a brand new faction codex slated for announcement or release in early 2021?

I swear I read this somewhere, but now I cannot find it and I'm second guessing myself. I did notice there is a TON of stuff in the rumor mill as of yet unrevealed that looks very much like AoS stuff.

Not that we know of. The 2021 update article https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/12/23/an-update-on-warhammer-releases-in-2021/
does mention an AoS Battletome for February, but its clearly Slaanesh

For Warhammer Age of Sigmar fans, you’ll see the next new battletome (and a bunch of incredible minis) drop in February. Trust us, this one’s a doozy – we’ll even give you a sneak peek on Christmas day!*

And lo, Slaanesh preview on the 25th.

January is Death Guard, Feb and March are Dark Angels and Dark Eldar. The only definite AoS thing is Slaanesh. The various rumor engine bits and bobs could be Underworlds, Warcry or whatever. Even theoretically a new Warhammer Quest box or some other one off (real outside chances there).

It looks like the source of my confusion comes from the "The next New Battletome line" and the me not understanding that's for Slaaneesh.

A lot of my friends have abandoned 40K for AoS/Star Wars: Armada/X-Wing/Legion and though I play Armada with them, I don't have any other games to play. Naturally we don't always want to play the same things, so I'm trying to choose a faction to get for AoS. I'm in that boat where there are lots of things that look cool. But, I just can't decide. I don't know what's a good buy and what isn't. Some of the factions I'm interested in have almost no models, or very old models that might be redone or replaced in the next few years. It's hard to decide.

**Voss**

I get that. AoS still feels a bit undecided about what is and isn't a full faction and what will actually get support.

Especially after recent fluff changes- the conquest of a city and not-quite just re-setting up dark elves as a destruction faction. It looks like someone wanted to go all out and do it, but got talked into keeping the official status quo.

For me, the Old World project also plays a part. I'd rather not split attention, time and money between the two, so it's helping make me hesitate (along with not being entirely sold on any AoS factions. Something seems missing from all of them)

**Overread**

Voss wrote:
I get that. AoS still feels a bit undecided about what is and isn't a full faction and what will actually get support.

Especially after recent fluff changes- the conquest of a city and not-quite just re-setting up dark elves as a destruction faction. It looks like someone wanted to go all out and do it, but got talked into keeping the official status quo.

For me, the Old World project also plays a part. I'd rather not split attention, time and money between the two, so it's helping make me hesitate (along with not being entirely sold on any AoS factions. Something seems missing from all of them)

There's no hints of the political changes creating a new Destruction faction in the least.

As for the political changes, it basically has zero effect in game. The new faction is just a subfaction from Cities of Sigmar that was there from the battletome and has now politically changed allegiances, without any real change thereafter. It's a story not mechanical change.

As for AoS being undecided I think that's really only true of Cities of Sigmar in general rough terms. Pretty much every other faction is pretty well established and clearly is what it is and is expecting long term support. It's just that GW doesn't have resources to give every old army (eg skaven) a big update nor every smaller army a huge second and third wave of models in one go. Slaanesh is getting one of the first with a massive update to mortals.

**Kanluwen**

They really didn't set the Dark Elves up as anything outside of "Morathi now has a nation of her own".

The Darkling Covens were in Cities of Sigmar but never really a part of the cities proper. The same goes for the Order Serpentis(Cold One Knights, War Hydra, and Black Dragons). Both of them felt extremely strange as additions to the faction book unlike the Shadowblades or Scourge Privateers who were at least fluffed as active in Anvilgard(Privateers) and Tempest Keep(Shadowblades).

Worth mentioning though that we have not seen how Shadowblades are going to lean. We know via the short stories though that the Privateers are split between Sigmar loyalists and Morathi mercenaries.

**Overread**

Honestly they could just bring back Dark Elves as a faction - Daughters of Khaine only took out the cauldron and witchaelves and doomriders. After that everything else for Dark Eldar remained save for one or two heroes and the repeater crossbolt thrower

I can see Cities of Sigmar perhaps doing what Legions of Nagash has done - hiving off segments of itself into full armies and expanding those armies with new additions.

Personally whilst I'd love to see DoK get more models, I'd not welcome them pairing with the Darkling Covens and other forces as I think it would change the appeal and design of the army too far now to do that. Though I could see them forming into a Dark Aelf allegiance army and then, like skaven and gloomspite, basically having elite armies as "subfactions" within with specific limits on what you can and cannot take.

**Mr Morden**

Kanluwen wrote:
They really didn't set the Dark Elves up as anything outside of "Morathi now has a nation of her own".

The Darkling Covens were in Cities of Sigmar but never really a part of the cities proper. The same goes for the Order Serpentis(Cold One Knights, War Hydra, and Black Dragons). Both of them felt extremely strange as additions to the faction book unlike the Shadowblades or Scourge Privateers who were at least fluffed as active in Anvilgard(Privateers) and Tempest Keep(Shadowblades).

Worth mentioning though that we have not seen how Shadowblades are going to lean. We know via the short stories though that the Privateers are split between Sigmar loyalists and Morathi mercenaries.

Agreed - how the Scourge evolve should be really interesting as the Fleemasters in different cities and realms are independant powers - although Arika Zenth's father did try with the Twilight Cabal to do something similar to Morathi.

I think the other Dark Elves will also by split Morathis actions - also may be interesting when Melaneth hears about it all

lastly as I read it

Spoiler:

**Overread**

Mr Morden wrote:

lastly as I read it

Spoiler:

Morathi absorbs the souls of all the Phoenix Kings except her beloved Aenarion who cuts her soul in two and may or may not be still trapped in Slaanesh?

Spoiler:

**Kanluwen**

The way it is heavily implied, the Aelf souls within Slaanesh are all gone now.

Spoiler:

**Mr Morden**

Overread wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:

lastly as I read it

Spoiler:

Morathi absorbs the souls of all the Phoenix Kings except her beloved Aenarion who cuts her soul in two and may or may not be still trapped in Slaanesh?

Spoiler:

I read it as Aenarion not only sliced her but escaped and likely fled from Slaanesh in the tide of souls who escaped at that moment. Morathi basically sliced a huge gaping wound, draw souls to her and fled with them so its very probably that Aenarion has fled as well. Though his soul is far more powerful and likely recalls his past better than others and has more power to itself as well. Where that soul ends up will be interesting to see. We've also not really seen how Morathi is going to contend with being split as she is - granted she was very happy to have godlike powers, but we don't yet know what this newest split in her body is going to result for her. Especially considering how neurotic she is about potential betrayers - will one soul and two bodies end up with two identities that share a soul but not might not share confidence in each other! Will Snake Morathi be forever jealous of the other half)

Agreed and liking all of those speculations

**Overread**

Kanluwen wrote:
The way it is heavily implied, the Aelf souls within Slaanesh are all gone now.

Spoiler:

Aenarion's 'sword' severs Morathi the Oracle from Morathi the Soul, hence why she is now both at the same time rather than one or the other. She grants Volturnos the souls of the other High Kings of the Idoneth that had been trapped within Slaanesh. It's a big implication as he actually recognizes them and given that he was the last of the original Idoneth? It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

Spoiler:

**Kanluwen**

I didn't say that Morathi got all of them--I said that they're gone.

**SKR.HH**

So... Palanquin is previewed... Behold Glutos Orscollion, Lord of Gluttony...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/01/new-year-preview-sample-the-decadent-delights-2021-has-in-store/

More detail pictures:

Spoiler:

**Wha-Mu-077**

Is this the first ever Slaneesh model with tentacles?

**Overread**

In a long time yes, but there might be some in the archives of old models. That said there's more than a few classic deamonette bits of artwork with whip-like tentacle arms .

**KidCthulhu**

Now that's how you do an expensive centerpiece model!

I haven't seen a Slaanesh champion with tentacles since I had this guy:

**Mr_Rose**

I like that he has his personal chef there too, offering up their latest creation on a platter…

**Sersi**

Honestly, I'm disappointed with this model. There are a lot of elements to this piece that clash badly with others parts.

But I think what bothers me the most is the "Nurgle-esque" horn in the center of his forehead, and the fact that our new Lord of Gluttony is not excessive enough; he's less fat than either a Blightking or Ogre.

**NinthMusketeer**

I like that he is fat but not so much that he can't move around; he is aiming to taste the most exotic things, not eat as much as he can. It makes sense and makes for a better miniature. It also allows for that lounging pose which is simply perfect. All the servants doing different things around him just enhance the effect.

There's so much done so well about this model in my eyes. Really a fantastic centerpiece and dam is that a project! I particularly like that they went with a pulled palanquin rather than a giant monster as the mount. The GW aesthetic of covering everything in details really, really works here too. I could just go on and on about how much I like about the design.

So... $240?

**Sersi**

So he's skinny fat?

I do like this little guy though.

Who wouldn't want their own lil Slaaneshi Tyrion running around.