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vipoid wrote: Each to their own, but seeing a better picture of that vampire lord has actually put me off it.
To me it just seems so, well, bland. The pose is dull and awkward, the armour is both boring and completely lacking in any details, the bats look barely better than the monstrosities I bought 20+ years ago, the weapon has clearly been pinched from Sauron, and the less said about the face the better.
Also, Holy Oversized Pauldrons, Batman!
Also also, is he (she?) wearing his older brother's armour? If not, why does it look like the collar is trying to eat him?
Lastly, unless his head is supposed to detach and double as a new Endless Spell of some sort, I really don't get the whole bat-hair thing.
New one is just blah
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Change it so the bat are coming out of mist or something like that, a bit more gothic bling and Id be happy. Those light red tips on the hair are a nice touch.
Now, I can't unhear the Lumineths with Australian accents. Thanks Nick.
Funnily enough, the new treerunners do resemble a lot of extinct marsupials, and also a bit of Tauntauns, and I also really like the new Vanari Lord Regent and his mount.
This is a very hyped release for pretty much everyone, but lets be honest, everyone willt to see the Vampire Counts come back, more if they come in proper form; not just Nagash lackeys.
Just gimme plastic Blood Knights already!
If they happen to be Vampirates instead, oh boy. OH. BOY. Imagine having the entire roster of their Total Warhammer DLC in sweet, glorious plastic. Imagine having Necrofex Colossi Imagine proxying Leviathans with actual dead crabs or lobsters while playing Crab Rave.
Whatever it is, we are all winning this time around.
Lastly, unless his head is supposed to detach and double as a new Endless Spell of some sort, I really don't get the whole bat-hair thing.
It's a long standing theme that vampires can turn into bats - in some lore its one bat in others its many bats - ergo a swarm. If you watch the semi-recent Dracula Untold film then he can turn into a massive swarm of bats. Basically the bats to hair - to me at least- suggests that the vampire is in a stage of transformation; either reforming after just being a swarm of bats or into the swarm. Either way they've gone for giving it just at the very start/end so the bats are only just connected to the hair - which allows them to carry the theme but without losing the body and form of the character.
Neither the sculpt nor the paintjob gives that impression though. There is hair, and then there are bats. No bats are visibly transitioning into or emerging from the vampire. If that was what they were going for (and it might be), it's incredibly poorly executed. If that's not what they were going for, I don't know what they were thinking.
Manfred von Drakken wrote: The bats thing feels like someone was really proud of the way the energy on the Void Dragon came out and decided to do that as much as possible.
(Unnecessary) swirly bits and tactical rocks may one day be regarded as the hallmarks of the current GW period, as painting things red and goblin-green bases were in the past.
It's also possible, looking at Jain Zar, the new Lelith and now this, that someone at the company is just obsessed with very long hair. Even the old Bretonnian damsels, possibly the previous record holders, didn't grow it long enough to accidentally tread on. Can't fault the vampire though, at least this one is sensible enough to have servant bats at the ready to hold it up and prevent any embarrassing mishaps.
Lastly, unless his head is supposed to detach and double as a new Endless Spell of some sort, I really don't get the whole bat-hair thing.
It's a long standing theme that vampires can turn into bats - in some lore its one bat in others its many bats - ergo a swarm. If you watch the semi-recent Dracula Untold film then he can turn into a massive swarm of bats. Basically the bats to hair - to me at least- suggests that the vampire is in a stage of transformation; either reforming after just being a swarm of bats or into the swarm. Either way they've gone for giving it just at the very start/end so the bats are only just connected to the hair - which allows them to carry the theme but without losing the body and form of the character.
I'm very familiar with vampire lore.
The problem is that nothing about this model conveys transformation. There's no impression or indication that the vampire is actually turning into bats. It just looks like some bats got randomly caught up in his stupid hair.
If they really wanted to convey transformation, they should have had more substantial elements turning into bats (e.g. the shield, parts of his armour, one or more of his limbs etc.). I think a different pose would help also.
blood reaper wrote: I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote: Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote: GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
If this were a Disney movie, those little bats would all have quirky personalities. There would be the comically grumpy one, the hyperactive one, the young cute one etc.
Esmer wrote: If this were a Disney movie, those little bats would all have quirky personalities. There would be the comically grumpy one, the hyperactive one, the young cute one etc.
I don't know about expressions but we could maybe give them silly hats?
blood reaper wrote: I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote: Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote: GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
Esmer wrote: If this were a Disney movie, those little bats would all have quirky personalities. There would be the comically grumpy one, the hyperactive one, the young cute one etc.
I don't know about expressions but we could maybe give them silly hats?
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
If I interpret the pose right, I think it's fine if you pretend the tactical rock isn't there. I would say that because I have a vampiress in the making that, again if I'm not misinterpreting the Vampire Lord's pose, is very similar. It's just a combat ready stance of somebody who feels like yelling at their opponent.
Is it dull? Perhaps. But I'd rather take that than any of the prancing poses GW considers dynamic.
Lastly, unless his head is supposed to detach and double as a new Endless Spell of some sort, I really don't get the whole bat-hair thing.
It's a long standing theme that vampires can turn into bats - in some lore its one bat in others its many bats - ergo a swarm. If you watch the semi-recent Dracula Untold film then he can turn into a massive swarm of bats. Basically the bats to hair - to me at least- suggests that the vampire is in a stage of transformation; either reforming after just being a swarm of bats or into the swarm. Either way they've gone for giving it just at the very start/end so the bats are only just connected to the hair - which allows them to carry the theme but without losing the body and form of the character.
Neither the sculpt nor the paintjob gives that impression though. There is hair, and then there are bats. No bats are visibly transitioning into or emerging from the vampire. If that was what they were going for (and it might be), it's incredibly poorly executed. If that's not what they were going for, I don't know what they were thinking.
Been waiting for a redone Vampire army since AoS 1E.
Looks like I'm heading down that oh, so wonderful path..
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I do like this one too, but I am curious why she thinks her shoulders and legs (and not even the upper thigh) are the only vulnerable area on her body.
I feel like the sword in the hair is just showing off a layering function of their current CAD software.
Nice subdued base, even for a Underworlds model.
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Stolen off reddit, but a more traditional color scheme does wonders. Im indifferent to the hand swap
Better, but honestly, I'd go for something more like this:
HA! I did the same thing with the hair on my phone, in exactly the same spot. Great minds think alike. It looks a lot better short like that. The real question will be how hard the rock will be to remove. Hopefully, he slots into the rock, and doesn't have half a foot already attached
I really like the Underworld Vampire. The big hair gives her an "Elvira" look. My only gripe is the sword through the hair, which means you can't convert that handle at all. Also, looks like its is Bone Spittas, not Spider riders, for the next warband. I love savage orcs, but new spider riders would be better
Black Templars: WIP
Night Lords (30/40k): WIP
Red Corsairs: WIP
Orks: 6000pts
I love savage orcs, but new spider riders would be better