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 Azreal13 wrote:
On the subject of dice, those Slaanesh ones may be one of the first things I buy from GW in a while.

Are they still an arse to get hold of unless you sit hitting F5 for them to go live, or can I reasonably expect to order them from a LGS in my own time?

It depends on the system. Lord of the Rings dice you need to be F5'ing. Specialist Games dice are extremely random and can sell out in hours to still be around half a year later (the new Orlock dice sold out in a few days, the Goliath and Esher set were up for about nine months).

For 40k/AoS... if they're just simple, easily rollable dice they seem to last anywhere from an hour to a couple of days tops. The more weird ones (Lumineth barrels, Squig squishies, etc) tend to a fair bit longer. My guess is the Slaanesh dice will sell out very quickly - Daemons in both systems, Emperor's Children players, simple but good design, hyped release - but the DoK ones will probably last a fair bit longer. If I remember right the Tzeentch dice last time lasted about half an hour?

For LFGS' it depends on how big the store is. I notice Element and the like tend to sell through them within half an hour, probably due to a mixture of scalpers and low amounts sent to them, other stores you can pre-order without much issue. Some LGS' don't get (or don't order) them at all.

So if I were you I'd order them sooner rather than later just to be safe.

 Overread wrote:
My gods gw why are you pricing cavalry models so freakishly high all of a sudden?

Gw keeps ramping up prices with new sku's.

Welp, my plans to add a Slaanesh wing to my WHFB chaos armies are now no longer a thing. Woohee, those are some spicy prices. 10 quid for a Slaangor

Blissbarb are still cheaper than DoK Witch Aelves

Wow, are the archers going to be a box of 10 or a box of 20?

That seems to be the price of things like Kairic Acolytes or Mortek guard (55-60 usd for a box of twenty)

No way I'll buy infantry for $5usd a pop. Too much other good stuff out there.

 Gallahad wrote:
Wow, are the archers going to be a box of 10 or a box of 20?

That seems to be the price of things like Kairic Acolytes or Mortek guard (55-60 usd for a box of twenty)

No way I'll buy infantry for $5usd a pop. Too much other good stuff out there.

They’ll be 10. The photo shows 10. (Technically 11 with the brazier haemonculus thing).

Didn't see it posted, but here are some rules previews for DOK: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/08/join-a-sect-to-transform-how-your-daughters-of-khaine-fight/


Hmm, need to see the final USD prices, but that's approaching CHainrasp price.

 Thargrim wrote:
The DoK release seems about as phoned in as possible. Bad dice, no seperate melusai ironscale and just endless spells. They did the bare minimum for them, go figure.

In this case that is totally fine. DoK work well (too well, even) as an army, have a model range that fully supports multiple interpretations of their play style, and really just need some smoothing out of dud options. They aren't broken so there is no need to fix them, and I will support GWs move on that if it is indeed the case.


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 Sasori wrote:
Readable Dice AND the Lord of pain is coming on release?

In all seriousness, this is a great release. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on a copy of the book.

Slaanesh loves getting a good release.

The Daughters of Khaine’s new endless spells are almost TOO bloody on Warhammer Community



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Heart looks pretty darn good. But what　the unnatural edge's last phrase　is supposed to mean?

The snake sounds a bit unimpressive, which makes me wonder if it does a little more or is just super cheap. The other risk being as a predatory spell it might swap hands next turn.


The hand I can see being situational - great against armies with few elite models that deal out lots of multiwound hits; less so against armies with lots of 1 wound dealing models; but still a very decent addition for some protection.

 Overread wrote:
The snake sounds a bit unimpressive, which makes me wonder if it does a little more or is just super cheap. The other risk being as a predatory spell it might swap hands next turn.


The hand I can see being situational - great against armies with few elite models that deal out lots of multiwound hits; less so against armies with lots of 1 wound dealing models; but still a very decent addition for some protection.

Against 3-4w models equilavent of　6 mortal wounds. Not needing tons of models.

And how many 3-4 wound models dok runs? I see often lots of 1w who don't worry as much.

Heart-juice spell is nice, the other two are just another MW spell in a sea of MW spells.

The snake seems insane.
Against 1W units, you're killing 3 models every time. No damage shrug because it isn't mortal wounds, it's just slaying them.
Against 2W models like Chaos Warriors, with that fancy shield that blocks mortal wounds on 5+? Remove 1 Chaos Warrior for each 2+ you roll.
It's 42% chance of just straight up removing a 6W... SIX WOUND! character.
It's either going to be very expensive (80-100 points?) or have a danger-short move distance.

tneva82 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
The snake sounds a bit unimpressive, which makes me wonder if it does a little more or is just super cheap. The other risk being as a predatory spell it might swap hands next turn.


The hand I can see being situational - great against armies with few elite models that deal out lots of multiwound hits; less so against armies with lots of 1 wound dealing models; but still a very decent addition for some protection.

Against 3-4w models equilavent of　6 mortal wounds. Not needing tons of models.

And how many 3-4 wound models dok runs? I see often lots of 1w who don't worry as much.

The hand is not really worried about how many wounds the DoK models have; but more about how many wounds the enemy will deal out. A single wound damage source won't be limited, what it wants is multiwound damage sources attacking. Even with witches with only 1 wound, if you cut down the number coming in you lose less models.

tneva82 wrote:
Heart looks pretty darn good. But what　the unnatural edge's last phrase　is supposed to mean?

They've apparently replaced it on Warhammer Community:

Man the super-matte paint scheme is not doing those models any favors. I think the heart and the snake could look epic once some actual gloss was applied to the liquid. The blades too would look better, but the blood sculpting just seems off to me. Too goopy maybe? It just ruins the effect. Still dig all the details on the heart and I really like the danger noodle. Cool effects too.

Are those pillars available in a kit? sorry, I haven't paid too close of attention to AOS until just recently.

 Theophony wrote:
Are those pillars available in a kit? sorry, I haven't paid too close of attention to AOS until just recently.

Yes, the pillars are available in multiple kits in the Dominion of Sigmar terrain range.

edit: But not sold as separate pieces, ie, if you wanted just the pillars thats a no go.

I think all the main terrain in those is on sale

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-Age-of-Sigmar?N=2070689437+669229921&Nr=AND(sku.siteId%3AUS_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_US_gw)&Nrs=collection()%2Frecord[product.startDate+<%3D+1613044020000+and+product.endDate+>%3D+1613044020000]&view=all



If you have a look several sets have those pillars in them. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Dominion-of-Sigmar-Shattered-Temple-2019

 Overread wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
The snake sounds a bit unimpressive, which makes me wonder if it does a little more or is just super cheap. The other risk being as a predatory spell it might swap hands next turn.


The hand I can see being situational - great against armies with few elite models that deal out lots of multiwound hits; less so against armies with lots of 1 wound dealing models; but still a very decent addition for some protection.

Against 3-4w models equilavent of　6 mortal wounds. Not needing tons of models.

And how many 3-4 wound models dok runs? I see often lots of 1w who don't worry as much.

The hand is not really worried about how many wounds the DoK models have; but more about how many wounds the enemy will deal out. A single wound damage source won't be limited, what it wants is multiwound damage sources attacking. Even with witches with only 1 wound, if you cut down the number coming in you lose less models.

Uuh...snake kills model if you roll equal or higher than wounds. Vs 1w models it's essentially flat 3 mw. Vs 3-4w models it's in essence flat 6 mw. dok are using often 1w models so opponent controlling gives him just 3mw. For dok against many foes you are dealing 6mw. Or sniping 5w hero.

You two seem to be talking (or possibly quoting) at cross purposes, tneva - you're talking about the Bloodsnek in your comments, while Overread is talking about the Heart-in-Hand.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Man the super-matte paint scheme is not doing those models any favors. I think the heart and the snake could look epic once some actual gloss was applied to the liquid. The blades too would look better, but the blood sculpting just seems off to me. Too goopy maybe? It just ruins the effect. Still dig all the details on the heart and I really like the danger noodle. Cool effects too.

Agreed, there's a striking mix of good and bad in these models. I really like the snake (if the price isn't too bad I may get the kit just for that model), but the paintjob is pretty bad. Yet the sculpted blood on it is actually decent. Whereas the blood sculpts on the other two just look off. Not sure I'd call it goopy but rather ragged like it's not even a liquid. Especially on the swords.

But really, how the manufacturer of Blood for the Blood God figured to paint the blood matte red is beyond me.

nels1031 wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Are those pillars available in a kit? sorry, I haven't paid too close of attention to AOS until just recently.

Yes, the pillars are available in multiple kits in the Dominion of Sigmar terrain range.

edit: But not sold as separate pieces, ie, if you wanted just the pillars thats a no go.

Overread wrote:I think all the main terrain in those is on sale

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-Age-of-Sigmar?N=2070689437+669229921&Nr=AND(sku.siteId%3AUS_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_US_gw)&Nrs=collection()%2Frecord[product.startDate+<%3D+1613044020000+and+product.endDate+>%3D+1613044020000]&view=all



If you have a look several sets have those pillars in them. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Dominion-of-Sigmar-Shattered-Temple-2019

Thanks guys

There's a Hedonites rules preview up on WHC.

 Dysartes wrote:
There's a Hedonites rules preview up on WHC.

The blissbarb seekers being able to run and shoot seems rather good.

 lord marcus wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
There's a Hedonites rules preview up on WHC.

The blissbarb seekers being able to run and shoot seems rather good.

Especially with that ranged profile! Phew!

Those rules have aroused my excitement for the battletome even further; they are cool and fun without being excessive. And THANK YOU GW for making the mortal wounds happen on a wound roll instead of a hit roll! We have way too many MWs going around and them happening on hit rolls when they should be wound rolls is a big reason why.

they are cool and fun without being excessive.

Ugh, I hate when GW writes rules without regard for the fluff

All depends on points. 3 shots with 4+ 4+ is really not that much.