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Azreal13 wrote: These are hard plastic, just a hair extra poly cement and a scrape back will render the seam almost invisible, assuming it's visible enough to be bothered by on dozens of rank and file infantry in the first place.
I've stopped using that as a gap filling method on all but the finest of gaps because I've found a few times gaps that I filled reappeared weeks or months later. It seems random, some models are fine forever, others the gap has reappeared later. Some blokes on fine scale modelling groups said it was because the melted plastic puddle created takes a long time to fully harden back up and in that time sometimes the gap can return.
I'll add to this and say that in the finescale world there was a trend for a while to use "sprue goo" and tamiya extra thin for gaps, but over time I've noticed the top model makers have shifted back to superglue based fillers, sculpting putties, putty primers, etc.
Seeing as I wasn't interested enough on that mini to go see the sprue... yes, absolutely?
Yeah, I never knew that was a thing, lol.
But in that case it's less of an issue to me because it's a character model, it's a bit more acceptable on a character model to spend some time making it look pretty.
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Azreal13 wrote: These are hard plastic, just a hair extra poly cement and a scrape back will render the seam almost invisible, assuming it's visible enough to be bothered by on dozens of rank and file infantry in the first place.
I've stopped using that as a gap filling method on all but the finest of gaps because I've found a few times gaps that I filled reappeared weeks or months later. It seems random, some models are fine forever, others the gap has reappeared later. Some blokes on fine scale modelling groups said it was because the melted plastic puddle created takes a long time to fully harden back up and in that time sometimes the gap can return.
I'll add to this and say that in the finescale world there was a trend for a while to use "sprue goo" and tamiya extra thin for gaps, but over time I've noticed the top model makers have shifted back to superglue based fillers, sculpting putties, putty primers, etc.
If anyone is treating rank and file wargame minis like finescale models that might explain the volume of grey plastic scattered on tables the world over. Nobody's ever going to finish an army!
I get you may not want a huge gap or visible seam, but there's really only a small amount of work needed to avoid that, possibly beginning and ending with just being careful.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Keel wrote: I count the same number of pixels from the bottom of the foot to the top of the gorget for both the Mk VI model and the CSM model.
That may be true but they’re in very different poses and the CSM looks much bigger and bulkier to me.
I love the look of the marines. I think the tanks look amazing. However those size comparison shots have just obliterated my enthusiasm. Looks like this’ll be a pass for me.
How about this shot then?
Looks pretty much identical in size to me.
As well as the shoulder pad is that a great big seam down the centre of the helmet as well?
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Holy gak, I mean, I'm not the sort who does their airbrushing in a vehicle prep booth in a hazmat suit by any means, but talk about overkill!
These are hard plastic, just a hair extra poly cement and a scrape back will render the seam almost invisible, assuming it's visible enough to be bothered by on dozens of rank and file infantry in the first place.
You know that's just regular styrene & abs glue...it just sounds scary. Well it is scary if you drink it or smoke around it.
So general question, a local shop has a sealed copy of Betrayal at Calth for $300. Another shop I was told has either Betrayal at Calth or Prospero Burns(couldn't tell me for sure). Is it worth picking 1 or both of these up, or just waiting for the new box set?
l0k1 wrote: So general question, a local shop has a sealed copy of Betrayal at Calth for $300. Another shop I was told has either Betrayal at Calth or Prospero Burns(couldn't tell me for sure). Is it worth picking 1 or both of these up, or just waiting for the new box set?
I'd hold off, but that's just my opinion based on the Mk VI being much better proportioned. I don't think the prev. armor marks will look great with them.
I prefer to buy from miniature manufacturers that *don't* support the overthrow of democracy.
Holy gak, I mean, I'm not the sort who does their airbrushing in a vehicle prep booth in a hazmat suit by any means, but talk about overkill!
These are hard plastic, just a hair extra poly cement and a scrape back will render the seam almost invisible, assuming it's visible enough to be bothered by on dozens of rank and file infantry in the first place.
You know that's just regular styrene & abs glue...it just sounds scary. Well it is scary if you drink it or smoke around it.
Its a plastic solvent sure, but its not regular. It's just needlessly risky when regular poly cement poses far less risk and no real disadvantages.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
l0k1 wrote: So general question, a local shop has a sealed copy of Betrayal at Calth for $300. Another shop I was told has either Betrayal at Calth or Prospero Burns(couldn't tell me for sure). Is it worth picking 1 or both of these up, or just waiting for the new box set?
The marines from those sets will be smaller than the new ones, however on the upside they're very compatible with 40k marines bits and 30k resin bits from that era.
l0k1 wrote: So general question, a local shop has a sealed copy of Betrayal at Calth for $300. Another shop I was told has either Betrayal at Calth or Prospero Burns(couldn't tell me for sure). Is it worth picking 1 or both of these up, or just waiting for the new box set?
I'd hold off, but that's just my opinion based on the Mk VI being much better proportioned. I don't think the prev. armor marks will look great with them.
Unless you want to actually play the board game. Which I highly recommend (certainly BaC); it’s such a shame so few people actually did that.
Zed wrote: *All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
l0k1 wrote: So general question, a local shop has a sealed copy of Betrayal at Calth for $300. Another shop I was told has either Betrayal at Calth or Prospero Burns(couldn't tell me for sure). Is it worth picking 1 or both of these up, or just waiting for the new box set?
I'd hold off, but that's just my opinion based on the Mk VI being much better proportioned. I don't think the prev. armor marks will look great with them.
Are all of the marines in the upcoming box going to be the mark VI beakie style?
I figured it had to be something like a 2-piece shoulderpad from the very earliest photos showing the arrangement of those very large studs across the entire curved surface. It's also the reason we might not get plastic Mk Vs in any great numbers, since they routinely use those studs across helmets and legs as well.
I've always wondered if the incompatibility of the studded pads with the plastic moulding process wasn't a part of the reason for the movement away from Mk6s to Mk7s during late 1st and early 2nd edition. They'd already redesigned the lower legs to their current shape for similar reasons when they built the RTB01 sprues (RTB01 studded shoulder pads look particularly awful, too, though the metal ones were also all over the place in terms of stud size, pattern and the overall care the sculptor used).
There is no conceivable universe in which GW would possibly be making a loss on this.
Less profit =/= Loss leader
Loss leader =/= no profit
That's exactly what it means. It's there in the name.
Otherwise you call it an introductory offer of something similar.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
There is no conceivable universe in which GW would possibly be making a loss on this.
Less profit =/= Loss leader
Loss leader =/= no profit
That's exactly what it means. It's there in the name.
Otherwise you call it an introductory offer of something similar.
The actual definition is that, yeah: "A loss leader strategy prices a product lower than its production cost in order to attract customers or sell other, more expensive products".
That said, it also gets frequently used when something is sold below its market price, instead.
In that sense, there is no way in hell that the box costs $299 to be produced.
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Just call it a doorbuster or intro deal and move on instead of splitting retail terminology hairs!
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
That said, it also gets frequently used when something is sold below its market price, instead.
That it is sometimes used incorrectly by people who don't understand what it actually means (despite the fact it is literally self defining) doesn't alter a thing.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
That said, it also gets frequently used when something is sold below its market price, instead.
That it is sometimes used incorrectly by people who don't understand what it actually means (despite the fact it is literally self defining) doesn't alter a thing.
You mean, like the word "literally"? Because I got news for you...
It contains the word "loss" in the term. It is literally self defining.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Azreal13 wrote: It contains the word "loss" in the term. It is literally self defining.
And so is "literally". Or was, because nowadays it also means "figuratively"
So your point is "other things are also wrong?"
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
While I'm normally all for a discussion on the incorrect use of terminology - and "literally" doth metaphorically drive me up the wall - what's the story with the Sicaran?
Thread title implies a plastic kit, but it wasn't in today's preview, and I haven't seen a mention from anyone who was at the event in person about one.
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
I'm also happy to flee from the mind bending density and to respond to your question with "I'm not sure, I have a Sicaran so I was mostly excited by the Kratos, but as the hull is the basis of several other kits, it still makes absolute sense to plasticise it."
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox