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 Gert wrote:

Voss wrote:
though... did they actually call it a 'launch box?'
Or were they just generally talking about the launch of the new edition?

Sometimes I think people get caught up in labeling box sets (and their 'intended audience') far more than GW does.

That is indeed true. They do just call it the new boxed set.

They called it "launch set", when they announced the box.

The Praetors are some of the first kits moving to plastic, making the game more approachable than ever before. If you’re a fan of the lore or the Horus Heresy series from Black Library, but you’re not so familiar with advanced resin kits, this is the edition of the game you’ve been waiting for. Both miniatures will be in the launch set for the new edition, on which we’ll have more details coming very soon…

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/24/beakies-are-back-first-miniatures-from-the-horus-heresys-new-edition-spotted-at-adepticon/

And now its just called a "boxed set" and it's not a limited release. What's the complaint here btw? That it isn't limited?

All launch sets are boxed sets, but not all boxed sets are launch sets. Their referral to the box as a "boxed set" does not preclude it from continuing to also be a "launch set", unless they have stated specifically otherwise.

chaos0xomega wrote:
All launch sets are boxed sets, but not all boxed sets are launch sets. Their referral to the box as a "boxed set" does not preclude it from continuing to also be a "launch set", unless they have stated specifically otherwise.

Well they said on stream it would be supported "for a long time" so it sounds like it'll be the box for the entire edition at least.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
All launch sets are boxed sets, but not all boxed sets are launch sets. Their referral to the box as a "boxed set" does not preclude it from continuing to also be a "launch set", unless they have stated specifically otherwise.

Well they said on stream it would be supported "for a long time" so it sounds like it'll be the box for the entire edition at least.

...or they think that this time they have made enough. Unlike all those other times they said the same. Hopefully it's the first.

RazorEdge wrote:

 Gert wrote:

Voss wrote:
though... did they actually call it a 'launch box?'
Or were they just generally talking about the launch of the new edition?

Sometimes I think people get caught up in labeling box sets (and their 'intended audience') far more than GW does.

That is indeed true. They do just call it the new boxed set.

They called it "launch set", when they announced the box.

The Praetors are some of the first kits moving to plastic, making the game more approachable than ever before. If you’re a fan of the lore or the Horus Heresy series from Black Library, but you’re not so familiar with advanced resin kits, this is the edition of the game you’ve been waiting for. Both miniatures will be in the launch set for the new edition, on which we’ll have more details coming very soon…

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/24/beakies-are-back-first-miniatures-from-the-horus-heresys-new-edition-spotted-at-adepticon/

Ok, good to know- I always like knowing if the things people complain about are actually real rather than something they invented in their own head.

But they've made it clear that its sticking around (and well before anyone bought it or could have even preordered), so... does it matter?

Possibly they're also reserving the right to adjust the contents/price sometime after launch. Lower introductory price for the launch version, higher price for the standard release version.

Would they do something like that? Surely not.

 Albertorius wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
All launch sets are boxed sets, but not all boxed sets are launch sets. Their referral to the box as a "boxed set" does not preclude it from continuing to also be a "launch set", unless they have stated specifically otherwise.

Well they said on stream it would be supported "for a long time" so it sounds like it'll be the box for the entire edition at least.

...or they think that this time they have made enough. Unlike all those other times they said the same. Hopefully it's the first.

They said they’d make more.

 privateer4hire wrote:
Would they do something like that? Surely not.

Nah, they will split it into 3 other boxes, not counting any already planned boxes from the set, and sell those for a higher combined price.

I mean they've said its sticking around so.

I understand a bit of cynicism when it comes to these things with GW but they were pretty clear on the stream that it’s not going anywhere.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
All launch sets are boxed sets, but not all boxed sets are launch sets. Their referral to the box as a "boxed set" does not preclude it from continuing to also be a "launch set", unless they have stated specifically otherwise.

Well they said on stream it would be supported "for a long time" so it sounds like it'll be the box for the entire edition at least.

When they said that I assumed they meant the new edition of Horus Heresy rather than the box specifically, but if so then thats insane that GW would be willing to make such an incredible offer a long-term product.

I mean, it's incredible by GW standards. Let's not make it more than it is, ok?


I would say it says more about how much they want it to be successful than anything else.

 Albertorius wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
All launch sets are boxed sets, but not all boxed sets are launch sets. Their referral to the box as a "boxed set" does not preclude it from continuing to also be a "launch set", unless they have stated specifically otherwise.

Well they said on stream it would be supported "for a long time" so it sounds like it'll be the box for the entire edition at least.

...or they think that this time they have made enough. Unlike all those other times they said the same. Hopefully it's the first.

I think they've pretty much put this fear to rest. They've been good about getting sufficient copies out for the last year+. Some times too many, as I ventured forth looking for Ash Wastes stuff this weekend at a not-local store (no luck as they hadn't gotten a shipment between weather and the local delivery schedule), but found a big old pile of Dominion still hanging out.

 Albertorius wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
All launch sets are boxed sets, but not all boxed sets are launch sets. Their referral to the box as a "boxed set" does not preclude it from continuing to also be a "launch set", unless they have stated specifically otherwise.

Well they said on stream it would be supported "for a long time" so it sounds like it'll be the box for the entire edition at least.

...or they think that this time they have made enough. Unlike all those other times they said the same. Hopefully it's the first.

They said that if they run out that they'll make more.

I get that the community likes to assume GW will kick their dog, but let's not make up stuff.

Those who brought launch boxes with Hardcover boks in the past.

How is the hardcover book protected from damage through the spures?

RazorEdge wrote:
Those who build launch boxes with Hardcover boks in the past.

How is the hardcover book protected from damage through the spures?

Card insert, plastic shrink wrap. Possibly also the assembly guide on top of that.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
Those who build launch boxes with Hardcover boks in the past.

How is the hardcover book protected from damage through the spures?

Card insert, plastic shrink wrap. Possibly also the assembly guide on top of that.

Yeah from what I remember the assembly guide is often shrink wrapped with the book and put that way up under the card.

Books always go on the bottom of the boxes.

RazorEdge wrote:
Those who brought launch boxes with Hardcover boks in the past.

How is the hardcover book protected from damage through the spures?

Have a look from 15:38 for an idea:

Do we have any release date for our guy Lucius ?

Lucius looks awfully static to my eyes.

Lucius doesn't 'wow' me in the same way Eidolon did, but I am still very pleased to see him.

Liking that vehicle damage chart. They're still pissing about with 'Hull Points', but who know, maybe they fixed them as well.

And that To Wound chart is wonderful. Wish 40k still had that.

I'm excited for the box but just not excited for any particular faction. I've painted too much black in regards to marines already (Ravenwing, Ravenguard, Deathwatch, and Black Templars in waiting), so I can't get excited for DA or RG for this set.
Most of my group have Traitor armies so wanted to lean Loyalist, but not feeling very inspired. Not going to do UM or IF (friend has Ultras, IF is yellow and iyanden is one too many yellow armies for me).
I've always had no issue picking factions previously, but what can people here recommend to help steer me in the right direction? Short stories, overview, videos, anything?

One more size comparison. Really puts the new models in perspective with the rest of the range

 bullyboy wrote:
I'm excited for the box but just not excited for any particular faction. I've painted too much black in regards to marines already (Ravenwing, Ravenguard, Deathwatch, and Black Templars in waiting), so I can't get excited for DA or RG for this set.
Most of my group have Traitor armies so wanted to lean Loyalist, but not feeling very inspired. Not going to do UM or IF (friend has Ultras, IF is yellow and iyanden is one too many yellow armies for me).
I've always had no issue picking factions previously, but what can people here recommend to help steer me in the right direction? Short stories, overview, videos, anything?

Well if it's no black, no traitors, no Ultras, and no Fists then that basically leaves you with Salamanders, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, or White Scars.

I'd say if you got your fill of yellow with Iyanden then maybe avoid Scars as well since white is also a fiddly color to paint. Likewise grey isn't too far off black (and certain units like Deathsworn are full black) so I'd personally skip on Wolves as well.

I'd say look at Blood Angels and Salamanders and decide based on either playstyle or fluff. Since you already have Raven Guard and Ravenwing maybe Salamanders would be a good change of pace (less fast attack oriented).

I kinda want to try my hand at making one of the lost legions, but I'm not sure where to start. There's the menducia tarot thing which gives a pretty good idea of what the two would have been like (and my personal preference to actually bother making is Fortune). But I wanna try my hand at making crunch and not just lore.

 bullyboy wrote:
I'm excited for the box but just not excited for any particular faction. I've painted too much black in regards to marines already (Ravenwing, Ravenguard, Deathwatch, and Black Templars in waiting), so I can't get excited for DA or RG for this set.
Most of my group have Traitor armies so wanted to lean Loyalist, but not feeling very inspired. Not going to do UM or IF (friend has Ultras, IF is yellow and iyanden is one too many yellow armies for me).
I've always had no issue picking factions previously, but what can people here recommend to help steer me in the right direction? Short stories, overview, videos, anything?

I've been doing the same dance.
I want to lean into other things for Chaos in 40k, so I'd rather do loyalists with the HH box. But I like the traitor color schemes so much more, and for several loyalists I just don't want to paint a lot of that.
Plus background and themes of several of the loyalist armies just aren't... appealing. Sometimes its the specific flaws or fixations. Or just a reluctance to field one of the Shattered Legions, though Salamanders are actually one of my top contenders, for being skillful and rather sane by 40k standards, and for eschewing land speeders (because I hate flying bases). But the fact that they're not really present for most of the Heresy is awkward.

So I've been digging through detailed summaries on various online sites, trying to pick out threads I can latch on to.