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Concern based on what though? The same team that worked on the last batch of Black Books and the Exemplary Battles is working on this edition of HH.

 Slinky wrote:
White Scars painting video is up:

They're really bombing out on these tutorials. At least they primed this one a reasonable colour, but damn, that white is so flat, it has no contrast to it.

I was looking forward to see how they did some of the other Legions but given how they've turned out so far I'm losing interest.

Also, yeah, the shoulder pad seam line is very visible, they just rarely provide shots over the left shoulder to see it properly.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I like it. It's very Gen-Z tongue-in-cheek ironic meminess. I don't think for a second that anyone's actually taking "rad" seriously - what's more likely is that's being deliberately corny and exaggerated to show that every one of these Primarch/Legion reviews is biased to sound great.

I, for one, think that's hilarious.

Agreed. Too many people are taking things too seriously and yelling at clouds again it seems.

Horus Heresy is Very Serious BusinessTM for some people

Interesting division in views on the white scars article. The folks from the USA think it's really childish, the Brits seem to think it's funny. Obviously the sample size is far to small to make any sensible generalisations, but your all going to now I've pointed it out.

Rad!

I'm Canadian and don't really give a crap. I stopped reading things GW wrote some point a decade ago. Do like the pictures though, should make a decent sized tank that doesn't look like the generally terrible primaris stuff. (That said, I am now accepting the random missile / grenade launchers stuck to everything primaris as a form of kinetic antimissle defence)

I think the Emperor's Children article was very funny...

MaxT wrote:
Horus Heresy is Very Serious BusinessTM for some people

One could compare them to historicals grognards who’ll point out that tartan on your models actually wasn’t used until the early 1700s. Except that they’re taking actual history too seriously instead of taking fake future ‘history’ too seriously.

it is GWs version of a historical game, so of course people take that aspect very serious

 gorgon wrote:

MaxT wrote:
Horus Heresy is Very Serious BusinessTM for some people

One could compare them to historicals grognards who’ll point out that tartan on your models actually wasn’t used until the early 1700s. Except that they’re taking actual history too seriously instead of taking fake future ‘history’ too seriously.

Those small little details are sort of the fun part, plus there’s always the thing, why try and make Horus heresy the loosey goosey mindset 40k is, and not just play 40k. Nothin stopping you from running deimos rhinos and mk3 in your 40k space marines.

Because HH still fits that mindset. You won't find the Flame Falcons Chapter or Hello Kitty Marines but there are loads of variant Legion colour schemes in the Black Books, Visions and novels.
The idea that a new influx is going to demand things like Primaris or be allowed to port their M37 founding Chapter army over to HH is such a non issue yet it keeps getting treated like a really big deal.

The fans treat is seriously because GW treats it seriously.

They've commissioned 50+ books to fill out the lore of the Horus Heresy and bill it as one of the longest and most epic narratives in sci-fi. They hire classically trained voice actors to read the audiobooks with sonorous flair. The video they produced to announce the new edition features monumental figures fighting a pitched battle in which the narrator claims the fate of humanity hangs in the balance, all with a backdrop of choral music to set the tone.

Then they hired the writing team that added Poochie to Itchy & Scratchy to write these legion overviews. It's just discordant.

Adeptus Ridiculous, If The Emperor Had a Text-To-Speech Device, MajorKill, r/grimdank, have shown how to celebrate/take the piss out of 40K in a humorous way. I'm all for them going that way with their copywriting. These legion overviews just remind me of a critique of "The Big Bang Theory" that the writers don't make jokes as much as shoehorn in references to pop culture as a substitute for a proper setup and payoff.

You don’t find them yet. Vehicles being resin and very expensive is a large deterrent to painting them like hello kitty.

You won't find that at all in any capacity that isn't "Hey look I made a joke army lol".
Do you want to know what's really funny? New hobbyists have been asking for a while now about Legion schemes and how accurate they need to be with them on various platforms. And do you know what the majority of responses were? They were positive and helpful, pointing out:
A - They are your models, do what you want.
B - Legion paint schemes can vary from company to company because paint isn't the same colour at every single supply depot.
C - There are a buttload of alternate Legion schemes to choose from.
D - Pointed out that Blackshields (currently) exist and they don't have all their own schemes as well.

 Plant wrote:
Interesting division in views on the white scars article. The folks from the USA think it's really childish, the Brits seem to think it's funny. Obviously the sample size is far to small to make any sensible generalisations, but your all going to now I've pointed it out.

Rad!

As a Yank I thought it was a good chuckle, but I don't pretend that HH is something that needs to be treated like real history of real events like some seem to.


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 flaherty wrote:
The fans treat is seriously because GW treats it seriously.

They've commissioned 50+ books to fill out the lore of the Horus Heresy and bill it as one of the longest and most epic narratives in sci-fi. They hire classically trained voice actors to read the audiobooks with sonorous flair. The video they produced to announce the new edition features monumental figures fighting a pitched battle in which the narrator claims the fate of humanity hangs in the balance, all with a backdrop of choral music to set the tone.

Then they hired the writing team that added Poochie to Itchy & Scratchy to write these legion overviews. It's just discordant.

Adeptus Ridiculous, If The Emperor Had a Text-To-Speech Device, MajorKill, r/grimdank, have shown how to celebrate/take the piss out of 40K in a humorous way. I'm all for them going that way with their copywriting. These legion overviews just remind me of a critique of "The Big Bang Theory" that the writers don't make jokes as much as shoehorn in references to pop culture as a substitute for a proper setup and payoff.

40k has more books than HH does but we still have a laugh with it. Plus people make 30k related memes as well. Maybe the only people acting like it's "serious" are the ones bent out of shape about a fun article.

If you unironically enjoy your own hobby there's clearly something wrong with you.

JSG wrote:
If you unironically enjoy your own hobby there's clearly something wrong with you.

I sincerely hope this was sarcasm because I've seen a few too many people online who seem to think being unhappy about the hobby is the hobby.

Obviously the White Scars article is just about the least important thing in the world, but it is terribly written. If the tone is genuine it is horrifying; if in jest, unsuccessful. Perhaps it is meant as broad satire, but by hitting its target directly it missed the mark?

JSG wrote:
If you unironically enjoy your own hobby there's clearly something wrong with you.

PSA that sarcasm doesn't carry well via text.

...on the off chance that you were sincere, I don't think there's anything wrong with someone who enjoys a fictional setting (and not just as a punching bag for endless self-referential and self-deprecating humor). That seems like a peculiarly judgemental thing to say, frankly.

But as I say, I hope you were being sarcastic.

 Saber wrote:
Obviously the White Scars article is just about the least important thing in the world, but it is terribly written. If the tone is genuine it is horrifying; if in jest, unsuccessful. Perhaps it is meant as broad satire, but by hitting its target directly it missed the mark?

It is as the Scars themselves. Without obvious direction and impossible to discern the true target. An overwhelming thematic victory, I would say.

Quick question about the starter- Are all the tactical marines just bolters or is there an option for bolt pistol and chain sword?

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Quick question about the starter- Are all the tactical marines just bolters or is there an option for bolt pistol and chain sword?

It's looking like just bolters. Bolt pistol and chainsword will probably be an upgrade pack in the future.

The Sicaran is one of the few kits where I like it less after seeing it from all angles and next to other models.

 Arbitrator wrote:

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Quick question about the starter- Are all the tactical marines just bolters or is there an option for bolt pistol and chain sword?

It's looking like just bolters. Bolt pistol and chainsword will probably be an upgrade pack in the future.

I'd expect assault marines to get a full kit. GW loves its jumping stances and traditionally assault marines had a harness across the chest for the jump pack.
The poses for the units in the main box just don't work as assaults.

Voss wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Quick question about the starter- Are all the tactical marines just bolters or is there an option for bolt pistol and chain sword?

It's looking like just bolters. Bolt pistol and chainsword will probably be an upgrade pack in the future.

I'd expect assault marines to get a full kit. GW loves its jumping stances and traditionally assault marines had a harness across the chest for the jump pack.
The poses for the units in the main box just don't work as assaults.

This is my hope as well.

Ideally, the assault kit has not only the chainsword and bolt pistol, but also the extra bolt pistol and rad grenade launcher to make destroyers. Those might be in a separate special weapon pack though.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The Sicaran is one of the few kits where I like it less after seeing it from all angles and next to other models.

Spoiler:

Even if the plastic sicaran lacks alternate turret options, it is super trivial for FW to adjust the turret ring for the sicaran variants and sell them separately. Except for the venator, that will be a more involved conversion.

I also can imagine the sponson weapons being their own sprue like was suggested. Single flamer, hbolter, lascannon, and volkite plus a mount. Drop 2 of that sprue into the sicaran, kratos, and eventually deimos predator kits.

Depending how they do the kit the Sicaran could be a new chassis for a whole bunch of things kind of like the Rhino chassis in 40k. Put a different sprue in the box for different turrets, give it a different pattern name and you have a new kit.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Depending how they do the kit the Sicaran could be a new chassis for a whole bunch of things kind of like the Rhino chassis in 40k. Put a different sprue in the box for different turrets, give it a different pattern name and you have a new kit.

There is the arquitor as well, so not out of the question.

drbored wrote:

Voss wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Quick question about the starter- Are all the tactical marines just bolters or is there an option for bolt pistol and chain sword?

It's looking like just bolters. Bolt pistol and chainsword will probably be an upgrade pack in the future.

I'd expect assault marines to get a full kit. GW loves its jumping stances and traditionally assault marines had a harness across the chest for the jump pack.
The poses for the units in the main box just don't work as assaults.

This is my hope as well.

Ideally, the assault kit has not only the chainsword and bolt pistol, but also the extra bolt pistol and rad grenade launcher to make destroyers. Those might be in a separate special weapon pack though.

Anything that doesn't make these release, will no doubt be released later down the road with a wave 2,3,4 etc. If the game does well (and I think it will) then I imagine a lot more stuff will migrate to plastic in the coming months to years.

Voss wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Quick question about the starter- Are all the tactical marines just bolters or is there an option for bolt pistol and chain sword?

It's looking like just bolters. Bolt pistol and chainsword will probably be an upgrade pack in the future.

I'd expect assault marines to get a full kit. GW loves its jumping stances and traditionally assault marines had a harness across the chest for the jump pack.
The poses for the units in the main box just don't work as assaults.

my biggest fear is if they put out a HH assault marine kit it'll have those fething FLIGHT STANDS!