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 ClockworkZion wrote:

Points 1-5 are countered by "they're Horus Heresy releases" that don't have to be reliant on 40k to be a thing.

I was just getting them out of the way, but considering 1 already came up (wanting releases for non-marine units before releasing legion specific releases) and 3/4 have nothing to do with 40k but instead are the inevitable whining of someone whose new shiny plastic interemptors are a different size than their old resin interemptors, who do I talk to about changing my user name to Cassandra? Oh nevermind, don't answer. They wouldnt believe me anyway.

What are you even talking about?

Not learned any Classics huh.

I am pretty well versed in the classics and even I don't know what point is being made.
People complain about Warhammer and GW? Does the poster also want us to know water is wet?

Jesse what the feth are you talking about

And yes I know what Cassandra Truth is.

So since they skipped legion articles over the weekend, five more this week, five more next week, the final four the week after that and pre-order on June 4? Or pre-order announcement on June 5 and a week of general rules previews after that?

 Albertorius wrote:
Well, the seam line on that shoulder pad is totally invisible xD

If you worked for the wages GW pays, you wouldn't bother doing anything about it either.

I was tempted, but I'm not going to say any more about it because I don't think we need another three pages of that particular discussion.

Legions of the Horus Heresy – The Space Wolves are the Best Boys, Yes They Are

The axe Praetor looks really nice in Wolves colours, fits the Legion aesthetic really well.

Also seems that Psychic Powers are back to being spread throughout various phases rather than having a distinct one.

Who writes these articles? Who do that think they are writing them for?

Lighten up.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Who writes these articles? Who do that think they are writing them for?

Not for the tryhard crowd on their misguided attemp at making warhammer into tsport.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Who writes these articles? Who do that think they are writing them for?

I work as a copy writer and I can promise you, this is just cynical bs made to try and appeal to the lowest common denominator. People telling others to 'lighten up' over it are ironically in a sense far more cynical than the people they are attacking.

 blood reaper wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Who writes these articles? Who do that think they are writing them for?

I work as a copy writer and I can promise you, this is just cynical bs made to try and appeal to the lowest common denominator. People telling others to 'lighten up' over it are ironically in a sense far more cynical than the people they are attacking.

More's the pity. I can understand not taking things too seriously, but I don't think treating your own product as a joke is a good idea.

 blood reaper wrote:
I work as a copy writer and I can promise you, this is just cynical bs made to try and appeal to the lowest common denominator. People telling others to 'lighten up' over it are ironically in a sense far more cynical than the people they are attacking.

Oh look, another individual who needs more lamps in their life.
"Help I'm being attacked by people who aren't constantly miserable about warhammer!"

 Gert wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
I work as a copy writer and I can promise you, this is just cynical bs made to try and appeal to the lowest common denominator. People telling others to 'lighten up' over it are ironically in a sense far more cynical than the people they are attacking.

Oh look, another individual who needs more lamps in their life.

Bro it's cynical corporate marketing - it's not something worthy of defence.

I mean, they probably got a chuckle or two in the first couple articles, but is this really going to last for another dozen articles without becoming tiresome?

 blood reaper wrote:
Bro it's cynical corporate marketing - it's not something worthy of defence.

Bro, who cares? If it's not worthy of defense then it isn't worthy of attack either. Find something else to wind yourself up about.

 Gert wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
Bro it's cynical corporate marketing - it's not something worthy of defence.

Bro, who cares? If it's not worthy of defense then it isn't worthy of attack either. Find something else to wind yourself up about.

Because no time is lost saying "this is crap". The desperation for positivity and endless optimism on this place about everything and anything is almost as bad as reddit.

I can imagine, going from the title (and what was said about the WS article) that it reeks of redditry. I wouldn't know because I haven't read it and I'll be content to skip all of them, they really don't matter. Whatever is written for actual the books, on the other hand, I'll be disappointed if it isn't good.

 blood reaper wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Who writes these articles? Who do that think they are writing them for?

I work as a copy writer and I can promise you, this is just cynical bs made to try and appeal to the lowest common denominator. People telling others to 'lighten up' over it are ironically in a sense far more cynical than the people they are attacking.

I threw up a bit in my mouth when I read that title.

At first I thought maybe they're trying to appeal to a younger audience compared to the 30 and 40 somethings, but I would have cringed at that even as a youngling, and what 10 year old has $300 to spend on a HH boxed set anyway...

I'm curious who reads this and becomes inspired to buy into HH versus the number of people who are put off by it. It seems to me the best approach would be to have a more balanced writing style to avoid putting off either type of 40k fan, rather than writing it for the clown-shoes type of 40k fan and making everyone else cringe.



On the plus side, this is probably my least hated painting style out of the tutorials so far. Granted I think the end result looked like arse, but the same basic techniques followed a bit differently could lead to something that looks decent and is actually quick to paint.




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 infinite_array wrote:
I mean, they probably got a chuckle or two in the first couple articles, but is this really going to last for another dozen articles without becoming tiresome?

I'm sure out of the thousands of people who read those articles they got a chuckle... or two... in total.

Mr_Rose wrote:Who writes these articles? Who do that think they are writing them for?

Me. It's funny.

No Smudge it's not allowed. You can't find joy anywhere because blood reaper will be annoyed.
Y'all need to go outside more.

tneva82 wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Who writes these articles? Who do that think they are writing them for?

Not for the tryhard crowd on their misguided attemp at making warhammer into tsport.

LOL, I would imagine most of the people who cringed at this were people who are happy enough making fun of their own hobby, but when GW themselves try and get on the joke it's just off putting. It's like when your 43 year old teacher tries to get hip with the humour of the 14 years old they're teaching.

The upset caused by the criticism is mildly amusing. Classic Dakka.

 Gert wrote:
No Smudge it's not allowed. You can't find joy anywhere because blood reaper will be annoyed.
Y'all need to go outside more.

Anyone I encounter with a smile, I immediately kill on the spot.

JWBS wrote:The upset caused by the criticism is mildly amusing. Classic Dakka.

As is the criticism itself. Classic Dakka.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

Mr_Rose wrote:Who writes these articles? Who do that think they are writing them for?

Me. It's funny.

Same.

GW's light hearted posts and advertising for HH are making me really excited to buy into it and actually play the game (I own a Word Bearers army I got for a song from a local player a year or two ago but have not played the system yet other than a descending familiarity of 3rd through 7th 40k)

It's a weird dichotomy as these posts from GW get me into an elevated mood about the game, and then visiting Dakka to see if there's any actual rumors in the Rumors thread to feed my excitement (maybe someone got a leak of an unannounced release! or similar) unfailingly deflates my mood because of the average acrid non-news-and-rumor-related post content

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 ClockworkZion wrote:

Points 1-5 are countered by "they're Horus Heresy releases" that don't have to be reliant on 40k to be a thing.

I was just getting them out of the way, but considering 1 already came up (wanting releases for non-marine units before releasing legion specific releases) and 3/4 have nothing to do with 40k but instead are the inevitable whining of someone whose new shiny plastic interemptors are a different size than their old resin interemptors, who do I talk to about changing my user name to Cassandra? Oh nevermind, don't answer. They wouldnt believe me anyway.

If someone wants to whine on the internet nothing is going to stop them so why make it a concern?

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

JWBS wrote:The upset caused by the criticism is mildly amusing. Classic Dakka.

As is the criticism itself. Classic Dakka.

"I don't like this" <- Reasonable statement
"I do like this" <- Reasonable statement

"You shouldn't dislike this otherwise you're a tryhard" <- Absurd statement


I'm mostly questioning it from a marketing perspective. I appreciate some people might find it amusing while I find it cringe... but if you liked it does it make you more likely to buy it enough to offset the decrease in desire to buy of the people who found it cringe?

It seems to me the smart marketing decision is to hit somewhere in the middle, where you're not putting off the people who like silliness by being absurdly serious about toy dollies, nor are you putting off the people who take their hobby a bit more seriously by being super silly.

HH has always had more of a gritty bent to it, so I think in this case it's more important to be more balanced (anyone still collecting 40k Space Wolves has probably embraced the clown shoes, though folk interested in 30k Vlka Fenryka are probably the types who were put off by Logan Santa in his sleigh).

People can enjoy what they want to enjoy, people can cringe at what makes them cringe. I would think as a business though you aren't trying to make a significant portion of your customers cringe.

 Gert wrote:
The axe Praetor looks really nice in Wolves colours, fits the Legion aesthetic really well.

Spoiler:

Also seems that Psychic Powers are back to being spread throughout various phases rather than having a distinct one.

Amnidextrous dreadnoughts? Nice. I was hoping that was the case. Should make the model more adaptable.


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 Mr_Rose wrote:
Who writes these articles? Who do that think they are writing them for?

For people who can have a laugh? Looking forward to tomorrow's sand castle champions article and the day after's haunted house enthusiasts article.


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 zedmeister wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Who writes these articles? Who do that think they are writing them for?

I work as a copy writer and I can promise you, this is just cynical bs made to try and appeal to the lowest common denominator. People telling others to 'lighten up' over it are ironically in a sense far more cynical than the people they are attacking.

More's the pity. I can understand not taking things too seriously, but I don't think treating your own product as a joke is a good idea.

GW has has a comedic tone in a lot of their marketting going back a long ways. Did people forget the week the Orks "ran" the Regimental Standard? Or even the more recent hover trike preview?

Marketting =/= lore and the tone between the two don't have to match.