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BrianDavion wrote:
Those types of armies seem like something for future campaign books

Indeed it is where they have always been, all in the same book actually.

20 packs coming up after all?

80 usd is €62.50

Big if true

The fact that GW said the box would be "under 300 USD" and they just made it $299 is really annoying.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
The fact that GW said the box would be "under 300 USD" and they just made it $299 is really annoying.

Seriously, I told a friend I wagered it would be $295 and he said, "c'mon they are not that douchy."

regardless, my wallet is sad to say, it's looking very tempting.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
The fact that GW said the box would be "under 300 USD" and they just made it $299 is really annoying.

The rumors were $500USD+ and they were trying to squash that rumor. The studio team wasn't likely given the exact price, just a "under X" amount.


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 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
The fact that GW said the box would be "under 300 USD" and they just made it $299 is really annoying.

Seriously, I told a friend I wagered it would be $295 and he said, "c'mon they are not that douchy."

regardless, my wallet is sad to say, it's looking very tempting.

Based on GW normal pricing it's a steal for the contents.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
The rumors were $500USD+ and they were trying to squash that rumor. The studio team wasn't likely given the exact price, just a "under X" amount.

The moment they said "Under $300" a bunch of us guessed it would be $299.

Maybe they were ignorant of the actual price, maybe they weren't, but pricing something one dollar (or sometimes even 1 cent) under something is a very old trick.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
The rumors were $500USD+ and they were trying to squash that rumor. The studio team wasn't likely given the exact price, just a "under X" amount.

The moment they said "Under $300" a bunch of us guessed it would be $299.

Maybe they were ignorant of the actual price, maybe they weren't, but pricing something one dollar (or sometimes even 1 cent) under something is a very old trick.

Yeah, one I rather dislike and that I would think people would have caught onto by now...


Kinda sad because if it was in the $250 range I would have snapped up 2. But now? I'll have to rethink that.

Arcanis161 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
The rumors were $500USD+ and they were trying to squash that rumor. The studio team wasn't likely given the exact price, just a "under X" amount.

The moment they said "Under $300" a bunch of us guessed it would be $299.

Maybe they were ignorant of the actual price, maybe they weren't, but pricing something one dollar (or sometimes even 1 cent) under something is a very old trick.

Yeah, one I rather dislike and that I would think people would have caught onto by now...


Kinda sad because if it was in the $250 range I would have snapped up 2. But now? I'll have to rethink that.

eh, 300 bucks for the contents of the box is STILL a steal

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
The rumors were $500USD+ and they were trying to squash that rumor. The studio team wasn't likely given the exact price, just a "under X" amount.

The moment they said "Under $300" a bunch of us guessed it would be $299.

Maybe they were ignorant of the actual price, maybe they weren't, but pricing something one dollar (or sometimes even 1 cent) under something is a very old trick.

I'm just happy GW doesn't slap a ninety-nine cent it on the end.

So looking at prices, just the 40 MkVI would $160USD so honestly even at $299 I'm going to likely stock up on a couple of these boxes just to save money on a good chunk of my legion. It's up in the air if I'll keep or sell the extra Spartans but it'll be a cheaper way to get a Legion up and running than getting all the kits separately.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
The rumors were $500USD+ and they were trying to squash that rumor. The studio team wasn't likely given the exact price, just a "under X" amount.

The moment they said "Under $300" a bunch of us guessed it would be $299.

Maybe they were ignorant of the actual price, maybe they weren't, but pricing something one dollar (or sometimes even 1 cent) under something is a very old trick.

Exactly. It's like if a restaurant has a poster boasting it's got one of the top 5 hygiene ratings in the district, you know for sure it wasn't 4th.

Another beautiful Dakka moment. They tout the box at under $300, which is 99% of the way to guaranteeing that the box will be $299 to anyone that has ever left their house or briefly glanced at a tv, box is confirmed at $299, Dakka has now been punched in the throat.

What are you blathering about?

$299 is a good price in GW land, but it’s pretty damn expensive compared to almost every other non-GW miniature wargame out there. That said, it is still a good deal compared to some of the other big boxes that GW has tried to peddle recently.

JWBS wrote:
Another beautiful Dakka moment.

If you know the community is like this and don't enjoy it, why are you posting here?

JWBS wrote:
Another beautiful Dakka moment. They tout the box at under $300, which is 99% of the way to guaranteeing that the box will be $299 to anyone that has ever left their house or briefly glanced at a tv, box is confirmed at $299, Dakka has now been punched in the throat.

You do realise that individual members of Dakka do no represent Dakka as a whole?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Australian prices are more fethed then my wildest hopes. $80 for a rhino get fethed.





Kratos is dead on arrival.
They're fething mad if they think they can shift 20 heavy weapons for $75. Special weapons.... maaaaybe, since you get like 60 of them.
Not surprised the unit profile books are so expensive, which is a shame. Quite shocked they're not more then $120.

Oh and sorry to any TSons players out there who need Ahirman. You have to pay like a 5th of what the BoP boxset was for a one sprue character.

When I saw the pricing come out for UK and the EU, I have to admit I got my hopes up that the US price would be about $250 for the box, $60 for the books, $110 for the Kratos, etc., but alas, should have known better when GW said it would be "less" than $300. Well they lived up to their word by a whole dollar. Also, making the Mk III and IV marines direct only is a kick in the nads to the independent stockists and certainly means no buy from me as I have forsworn buying anything from GW direct due to several factors.

I would like to give GW the benefit of the doubt on their pricing vs other markets and say some of the price difference is owed to the cost of shipping, but not sure a 32% markup vs. the current USD/Sterling pound exchange rate can be chalked up soley to higher shipping costs.

All and all, the pricing on everything along with the older armour Mk's being direct only has pretty much knocked my enthusiasm for this release down quite a bit. Likely going to keep my money in my pocket at this point, but I'm sure GW will be okay without my money. I do feel a bit bad for my FLGS though as knowing their econmics, I am sure they would have liked to have had my $300 to $500 next week.

 Snrub wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Australian prices are more fethed then my wildest hopes. $80 for a rhino get fethed.

Spoiler:

Kratos is dead on arrival.
They're fething mad if they think they can shift 20 heavy weapons for $75. Special weapons.... maaaaybe, since you get like 60 of them.
Not surprised the unit profile books are so expensive, which is a shame. Quite shocked they're not more then $120.

Oh and sorry to any TSons players out there who need Ahirman. You have to pay like a 5th of what the BoP boxset was for a one sprue character.

A lot of that is listed as trade/direct, so I assume there's going to be little to no discount on those items.

This is a bit of a damper for me, the main box looks like decent value, but everything else is insane and quite off putting.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
UK prices

So it's 227 USD??? That's way cheaper than what I thought it was going to be.

How have you been here 6 years and not know about price bands. It's 299$

I don't know what that is. 299 is unfortunate.

$210 for the Kratos? That's the same as a Knight.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
$210 for the Kratos? That's the same as a Knight.

yeah that's moving it onto the "maybe, eventually" pile for me.

 Togusa wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
UK prices

So it's 227 USD??? That's way cheaper than what I thought it was going to be.

How have you been here 6 years and not know about price bands. It's 299$

I don't know what that is. 299 is unfortunate.

But it's what gw dollar prices are. Using exchange ratios won't give you price(for one have you noticed prices don't fluctuate with exchange ratio changes?). You need to look at equilavent prices in uk value and then see what it costs in us. Or alternatively look at retail price list available at gw site.

 Snrub wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Australian prices are more fethed then my wildest hopes. $80 for a rhino get fethed.





Kratos is dead on arrival.
They're fething mad if they think they can shift 20 heavy weapons for $75. Special weapons.... maaaaybe, since you get like 60 of them.
Not surprised the unit profile books are so expensive, which is a shame. Quite shocked they're not more then $120.

Oh and sorry to any TSons players out there who need Ahirman. You have to pay like a 5th of what the BoP boxset was for a one sprue character.

Yeah I assumed it'd be cheaper than the Sisters Rhino but way more than the current Loyalist and Chaos Rhinos.
*sigh*

So how many points is contained within the big box? And how many points do people normally play in HH?

Basically trying to get an idea of how much someone would end up buying to get a "standard" army.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
So how many points is contained within the big box? And how many points do people normally play in HH?

Basically trying to get an idea of how much someone would end up buying to get a "standard" army.

This would be good to know. I'd wager the new book comes with the 3 points brackets like aos/40k though.

So let me get this straight - the Deimos Rhino is cheaper than a regular Rhino in the UK and US, but in Australia we pay $23 more for a Deimos than a regular Rhino (a bit over 40% more)? And it's direct only so we can't get a FLGS discount? feth off GW. That's me out. Utterly absurd

 Marshal Loss wrote:
So let me get this straight - the Deimos Rhino is cheaper than a regular Rhino in the UK and US, but in Australia we pay $23 more for a Deimos than a regular Rhino (a bit over 40% more)? And it's direct only so we can't get a FLGS discount? feth off GW. That's me out. Utterly absurd

Yeah, but... monkeypox is an inflation loss leader and if you don't like it you shouldn't buy the toxic koalas.

I think that makes as much sense as any other explanation.

Dudeface wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
So how many points is contained within the big box? And how many points do people normally play in HH?
Basically trying to get an idea of how much someone would end up buying to get a "standard" army.

This would be good to know. I'd wager the new book comes with the 3 points brackets like aos/40k though.

the box looks to be around 1500 points that you can stretch to 2000+ depending on upgrades and weapons (if you buy the upgrade sets)
Standard game size is 2500/3000 points but this depends on the local community and if they play 1vs1 or not (I have seen multi player games more often than 1vs1 and those with 4-6k, also to give new players an easier start so they don't need to bring a full 3k army to play)

so 1,5-2 boxes +upgrade sets would give you a "standard" sized army

 Marshal Loss wrote:
So let me get this straight - the Deimos Rhino is cheaper than a regular Rhino in the UK and US, but in Australia we pay $23 more for a Deimos than a regular Rhino (a bit over 40% more)? And it's direct only so we can't get a FLGS discount? feth off GW. That's me out. Utterly absurd

To be fair (as fair as you can be to the idiocy that is GW pricing) the regular Rhino is weirdly cheap in Australia, it's $50USD which would translate to ~$70AUD in regular real world exchange rates (not GW's senseless exchange rate) but it actually only costs $55AUD. So I wasn't expecting the Deimos to be less than the regular Rhino in Oz.

$78 dollars as a direct only item is still way to much, but it was never going to be less than a regular Rhino either.

The direct only is a killer, because that eliminates the 20% discount that is easy to get on everything else.