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 Dr. Mills wrote:
Anyone got any feeling on what will the most picked up of the included models once the boxed set is split on the 'bay?

Spartan feels like it'll be the most popular, since it's the centrepiece and hasn't been in plastic before, as well as having rules for 40k.

Contemptor in second, because it's a strong 40k model and it's much, much improved on the existing plastic kit. Probably knocked down a few points from the Spartan because the Legion-specific ones are generally really good.

Axe Praetor I could see being popular for conversions, but not so much the Sword one.

Beakies could go either way. 40 is A LOT, even though you can easily use that many in a 3k game I think a lot of people will assume otherwise, or those who want to prioritise a different armour mark.

 Dr. Mills wrote:

 Slinky wrote:

 Dr. Mills wrote:
I'm hoping to pick up a good deal on the main rulebook and Liber Astartes books once it drops - hopefully the Bay of E will be awash with them...

Rulebooks will be cheap, I suspect, but the Liber books are only sold separately, so not sure you'll get such a good deal there...

Ah, I stupidly forgot to put in the Liber Astartes will be from my usual discounter, the main rule book ebay.

Anyone got any feeling on what will the most picked up of the included models once the boxed set is split on the 'bay?

I'd guess that marines will be fairly cheap and the rulebook will be very cheap, everything else will cost more than what you pay by geting the AoD box (including the characters).

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
After time in the queue, I still can't find the HH rulebook.
The two tomes seem to be codex type books and state "In order to use the contents of this book, you will require a copy of the Warhammer: The Horus Heresy – Age of Darkness Rulebook."
Is the rulebook not available except in the pricey box set?

I'm sure they'll be readily available once people that buy multiples (or to split) start getting rid of theirs.

£180 could very well be a "bargain" but its a lot of money for those who want to give the game a try and see if its right for them.

Not in a disgruntled way, but this is a hard pass for the time being.

JWBS wrote:

 Dr. Mills wrote:

 Slinky wrote:

 Dr. Mills wrote:
I'm hoping to pick up a good deal on the main rulebook and Liber Astartes books once it drops - hopefully the Bay of E will be awash with them...

Rulebooks will be cheap, I suspect, but the Liber books are only sold separately, so not sure you'll get such a good deal there...

Ah, I stupidly forgot to put in the Liber Astartes will be from my usual discounter, the main rule book ebay.

Anyone got any feeling on what will the most picked up of the included models once the boxed set is split on the 'bay?

I'd guess that marines will be fairly cheap and the rulebook will be very cheap, everything else will cost more than what you pay by geting the AoD box (including the characters).

Not convinced on the praetor, I think because there'll be a lower demand the price should drop.

So here is my in-depth review, including sprue pics, scale comparisons with various older marks of power armour, Terminators & 40k models, and contents of the book:

https://taleofpainters.com/2022/06/review-the-horus-heresy-age-of-darkness-launch-set-2/



Also, tutorials for speedpainting Imperial Fists & Sons of Horus next week.

 stahly wrote:
So here is my in-depth review, including sprue pics, scale comparisons with various older marks of power armour, Terminators & 40k models, and contents of the book:

https://taleofpainters.com/2022/06/review-the-horus-heresy-age-of-darkness-launch-set-2/
Also, tutorials for speedpainting Imperial Fists & Sons of Horus next week.

Thank you, this was excellent!

The Praetor looks pretty huge. Primaris sized? I'd love to see a pic of one next to a Primaris marine.

New plastic Land Raider Proteus, with or without assault ramp.

It looks nicer without it, but if that actually affects the rules it's probably a bad choice.

Nice. The last time I tried to use my OG land raider back in 7e a player younger than the model was claiming that it was a random cheap toy and not an official 40k model. Fortunately, I keep a copy of an old codex in my army list to prove otherwise.

Now I suppose they'll just think it's a 3d printed chibi version!

These may be plastic Siege Drills?

Its the new Leviathan since it has details above the head which the resin one didn't have (which also confirms a different front plate since its different from the one in this weeks article)

Anybody who knows if they are different than the old drills?

grahamdbailey wrote:
New plastic Land Raider Proteus, with or without assault ramp.

I never understood all these years how a land raider with an assault ramp could be equipped with a dozer blade. GW makes finally sense with these different loadouts after 30 years.

grahamdbailey wrote:
New plastic Land Raider Proteus, with or without assault ramp.

The one without is the Explorator, isn't it?

SamusDrake wrote:
£180 could very well be a "bargain" but its a lot of money for those who want to give the game a try and see if its right for them.

But so is £100 right? That's why only the most expensive starter boxes for 40K and AoS are £100 and there are cheaper options for those that just want to give it a go. Which I would expect we will see down the line. Much like Indomitus and Dominion, this box is very much targeted at those already in the GW eco-system and want to branch out into something new. Except I think they've learned the lesson there that making those launch boxes limited edition wasn't a great move. Especially with Dominion ending up discounted everywhere for no real reason other than they wanted to launch the Extremis starter box. When they could have just made Dominion the actual starter and it not selling through in a few months wouldn't have mattered. We all said that at the time, and now it seems to be what they are doing.

Looks like the new White Dwarf will have Zone Mortalis rules.

I’m glad the melee leviathan doesn’t have the lightning bolts or wreath that the siege one has. They look too loyalist

 Albertorius wrote:

Billicus wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
So now its pretty standard that most box sets are above the psychological barrier of the £100 as such GW is going for the £200 goal.

£180 yeah right.

While it's a big sticker price you get so much stuff in this one I don't think it's too bad. It's not a Warcry Catacombs situation

Or, you know, Ash Wastes

I agree with you and I BOUGHT ash wastes

 Strg Alt wrote:

grahamdbailey wrote:
New plastic Land Raider Proteus, with or without assault ramp.

I never understood all these years how a land raider with an assault ramp could be equipped with a dozer blade. GW makes finally sense with these different loadouts after 30 years.

I've always felt the problem is calling the upgrade a "dozer blade" in the first place. Calling it something like "rough terrain modification" would be far better, and allow for more possibilities with different vehicles.

Spartan looks a decent bit better than LR, so LR is a redundant kit for me.

Not sure if this has been covered but have GW/FW addressed what arms we're supposed to put on the fancy resin Contemptors now if we wanted to add one to our new army?

Hmm... I have one of the original Land Raiders.

Should I repaint it for my World Eaters?

grahamdbailey wrote:
New plastic Land Raider Proteus, with or without assault ramp.

Brilliant! Seems I can leave my resin one in the bag. Had a feeling it might be heading to ebay soon

Land Raider looks amazing

Did anyone clock the U.K. price for Mk III and IV?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Did anyone clock the U.K. price for Mk III and IV?

£47.50, so not a huge saving when it was £25 for 10 from LFGS after the price rise.

Not too bad overall.

grahamdbailey wrote:
New plastic Land Raider Proteus, with or without assault ramp.

Looks like these are different vehicles; both Land Raider Proteus, but the one with no assault ramp is the Explorator model with less transport capacity but with the dozer blade and extra sensor array.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... I have one of the original Land Raiders.

Should I repaint it for my World Eaters?

I need to see if I can find mine, too. Unfortunately it lost the lascannon long ago… but you get an extra set with the Spartan so….

 Mr_Rose wrote:

grahamdbailey wrote:
New plastic Land Raider Proteus, with or without assault ramp.

Looks like these are different vehicles; both Land Raider Proteus, but the one with no assault ramp is the Explorator model with less transport capacity but with the dozer blade and extra sensor array.

Shouldn't it be the other way around? The one without Assault Ramp is an exact copy of the current Proteus(which also lacks the ramp in the rules).

 tauist wrote:

grahamdbailey wrote:
New plastic Land Raider Proteus, with or without assault ramp.

Brilliant! Seems I can leave my resin one in the bag. Had a feeling it might be heading to ebay soon

You may want to try to sell it quick. Unless the market for FW vehicles increases with new plastic kits

 GaroRobe wrote:

 tauist wrote:

grahamdbailey wrote:
New plastic Land Raider Proteus, with or without assault ramp.

Brilliant! Seems I can leave my resin one in the bag. Had a feeling it might be heading to ebay soon

You may want to try to sell it quick. Unless the market for FW vehicles increases with new plastic kits

I need to finish building my Spartan. It will be nice to mix it in with the new plastic ones though.

What other vehicles will be shown off/leaked next? Predator, Vindicator, and Whirlwind all seem likely looking at the rhino sprue setup. Cerberus and Typhon would be sprue swaps of the spartan. Past that, maybe the Javelin and Xiphon?