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I don't know, I really like old Easterlings, but something looks off about these. Way too wide leg stance, perhaps? Compared to old ones, they don't look human. Old models in wide leg stance have their legs spread naturally, these look like suffering from ugly broken pelvis syndrome of old, awful SM models. I really need to see 3D view but the old models seem to have way better anatomy and posing even if details are worse

Hopefully mounted version coming as well. Don't want to have those depend on paint job to separate.

 Irbis wrote:
I don't know, I really like old Easterlings, but something looks off about these. Way too wide leg stance, perhaps? Compared to old ones, they don't look human. Old models in wide leg stance have their legs spread naturally, these look like suffering from ugly broken pelvis syndrome of old, awful SM models. I really need to see 3D view but the old models seem to have way better anatomy and posing even if details are worse

I agree. The shields look interesting and I want to like to sculpts but the stances seem off.

They're cool, but I suspect that they'll be yet another overpriced Forge World thing.

What really needs to happen is for GW to redo the basic Easterling troops box; it's criminal to only provide 4 pikemen and 8 swordsmen when you need the reverse ratio for maximum effectiveness in game.

 ZergSmasher wrote:
They're cool, but I suspect that they'll be yet another overpriced Forge World thing.

What really needs to happen is for GW to redo the basic Easterling troops box; it's criminal to only provide 4 pikemen and 8 swordsmen when you need the reverse ratio for maximum effectiveness in game.

You don't want bare minimum swordmen. 1 swordmen+2 pikes=very bad mix. It might SOUND good...until opponent does the obvious thing and flanks and your pikes are just hindrance.

You don't expect opponent to just charge front of pike block if you don't cover sides do you? Dunno about you but I prefer to not base my strategy on opponent being total idiot.

I think models armed with spears and pikes should be getting a bonus against charging infantry and cavalry/monsters (respectively). It's what they're there for! And if memory serves, there's a feature on one of the movies (two towers probably) where they talk about weapon design, and it's why they gave the Uruk-hai the style of pikes the got. They were made with the intention of unhorsing charging riders from a safe-ish distance.

From an Easterling point of view though, it seems strange to me that basic warriors get 'pikes' (basic pikes), captains get 'easterling glaives' (hand-and-a-half axe) and war priests 'easterling battle staves' (spear/two-handed axe). All 3 are a long haft with a bladed edge and a spike on the end. I don't quite see why they've got 3 different rule sets.
Personally think they should have either combined the easterling glaive with the pike and had a hand-and-a-half axe that can support 1 deep. Best of both weapons, and the easterlings in general get a unique weapon. Or just made them all battle staves. That way you can spear and shield or forgo the shield and axe instead.

3 ranks vs cavalry is already pretty damn good seeing cavalry is on bigger bases...

Giving them extra bonus just means pikes will delete cavalry and lead to rock paper scissor ala 40k where you face faction A with faction B you lose.

If you try ramming into front of easterling pike formation with minas tirith cavalry lance you will struggle big time(lances and heavier armour helps a bit). Rohan? You die. Been there done that. The pike block will laugh off that.

Balin's Tomb isn't too bad with a bit of discount, if you can get it.

That said...yeah, the Moria scenery sprue would have sealed the deal.

tneva82 wrote:

 ZergSmasher wrote:
They're cool, but I suspect that they'll be yet another overpriced Forge World thing.

What really needs to happen is for GW to redo the basic Easterling troops box; it's criminal to only provide 4 pikemen and 8 swordsmen when you need the reverse ratio for maximum effectiveness in game.

You don't want bare minimum swordmen. 1 swordmen+2 pikes=very bad mix. It might SOUND good...until opponent does the obvious thing and flanks and your pikes are just hindrance.

You don't expect opponent to just charge front of pike block if you don't cover sides do you? Dunno about you but I prefer to not base my strategy on opponent being total idiot.

You protect your flanks with your cavalry (Kataphrakts). I suppose a few more swordsmen could help with that as well.

Do we have confirmation of the price for Battle in Balin's Tomb boardgame?

The rumoured £45/€60 is ludicrous and puts me off.

I haven't seen any confirmation yet.

It is a bit pricey!

 stonehorse wrote:
Do we have confirmation of the price for Battle in Balin's Tomb boardgame?

The rumoured £45/€60 is ludicrous and puts me off.

Not a rumour it’s confirmed £45, €60

Well technically speaking that could be fake listing but yeah there's not been many of those in past...there has been at least one time GW did late price change so it was bit off but that's super rare so that's as good as confirmed. No point hoping for such a super rare event to happen again.

Did the price of the Rohan Stronghold re-release get confirmed anywhere as well?

No. Monday after it's announced for preorder next week is when concrete info comes.

 Tim the Biovore wrote:
New sculpts for Black Dragons

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/22/dragon-week-comes-to-middle-earth-with-new-miniatures/

Forgeworld?

RazorEdge wrote:
Forgeworld?

Given the crispness of the details, i'd assume so.

Would be nice when they could replace all those bad Plastic Unit Sprues with new sculps.

If they added a sprue of Balin's Tomb to the board game (they were available to buy separately) 45 £ would have been an interesting price. But I am sure rules will suck.

Here's a play/review of it. Seems like the game is nice enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0bT-_M1_CI

Balin's tomb is up for preorder, it seems.

And yep, it's pretty pricey. A bit too much for me.

 krijthebold wrote:
Balin's tomb is up for preorder, it seems.

And yep, it's pretty pricey. A bit too much for me.

Yeah, the old starter set had those same figures (I think more Goblins) and plastic terrain for those scenarios for about the same price. I know that was a long time ago and prices have gone up on everything since then, but already having the figures and plastic terrain it is hard to justify $75 for a game board, rules and some cards. And for $25 you can buy the Mines of Moria terrain it looks like.

Heck, the Battle of Pelenor Fields set has a lot more figures, some of better quality/newer sculpts. Costs twice as much but you get a LOT more for your money.

The balins tomb miniatures are also very old at this point. Shame they didn't throw the pillars, sarcophagus and door into the set.

Do we have a release price for Amon Hen yet?

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Do we have a release price for Amon Hen yet?

None of the LoTR releases are on the price list which means they are direct only so we won’t know until Friday or Saturday (Forgeworld or GW) when they go live

 DaveC wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Do we have a release price for Amon Hen yet?

None of the LoTR releases are on the price list which means they are direct only so we won’t know until Friday or Saturday (Forgeworld or GW) when they go live

Thanks for the info.

Dumb question, but does that mean the Rohan Stronghold (presumably GW, not Forgeworld), won’t be available through third-party retailers?

KipCujo wrote:
Dumb question, but does that mean the Rohan Stronghold (presumably GW, not Forgeworld), won’t be available through third-party retailers?

Looks like it if it’s not on the retailers price list then it’s GW direct so no discounts unfortunately ( assuming they didn’t leave it off in error)

Rohan Stronghold is $560 on the New Zealand store. Can't find an exact match price wise $588 is £178.50 so $560 is probably around £170


https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/rohan-stronghold-2021

Was £150 last time so £170 sounds about right. Shame there is no 20% discount.