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Was the The Battle at Khazad-dûm AUD$198 when it came out?

Wait, never mind, I was on Kiwiland prices. Still, was it AUD$165 originally?

Holy price hikes Batman!

Yes I realize the prices I looked at on GW's site are in Aussie dollars (the MTO has yet to go live in the USA), but even when you figure in the conversion those are probably going to be beyond the pale here as well. I may be giving this MTO a miss. Damn shame, as I wanted the metal Fellowship, and I also wanted the metal Balrog as it's cool looking. Amon Hen and Weathertop I was already going to skip, and I was on the fence on Escape from Orthanc. Oh well, maybe next time.

In other news, my FW order that I placed over a month ago finally arrived last week, and wouldn't you know one of the packs of Dragon Cult Acolytes had the wrong arms in it (had 2 of the C arms and none of the A arms). What else could go wrong? I already contacted FW about fixing it, but they haven't replies (it's only been three days, I'm giving them time for now). Very frustrating.

H.B.M.C. wrote:[s]Still, was it AUD$165 originally?

Nah. Likely in the $65-80 range i'd say, from waaay back when the movies were released. I'll check my old white dwarfs, I might have it in one of them.

ZergSmasher wrote:Damn shame, as I wanted the metal Fellowship,

If you get but one thing, make sure it's the Fellowship. They're such nice miniatures.

Looking at the old collectors guide, everying was £25 originally apart from Khazad-dum which was £40. So the Balrog has gone up by less than £1.00 a year and the other sets by just over £1.00 a year.

 Snrub wrote:
I'll check my old white dwarfs, I might have it in one of them.

Found it.... and sort of wished I hadn't.

The fellowship are tempting, but not that tempting.

Hard to believe I got Khazad-dum and Escape from Orthanc for about 60% of the GW asking price off eBay last year, but just as well.

Was inevitable, but it's a shame that GW now uses Made To Order as a way to get in on the scalper price points

 Snrub wrote:

 Snrub wrote:
I'll check my old white dwarfs, I might have it in one of them.

Found it.... and sort of wished I hadn't.

So a 235% increase in 21 years.

Tim the Biovore wrote:Was inevitable, but it's a shame that GW now uses Made To Order as a way to get in on the scalper price points

They have slowly been going up over time. Things like Haldir's Elves started out at like $25 for 3 when they first went up for MTO ages ago. The other month when they went up again for about the 4th time, they were $40 a pop.

H.B.M.C. wrote:So a 235% increase in 21 years.

I wonder how that compares to actual inflation over that time (October '01 they were up for pre-order). As I don't doubt for a second GW's inflation is higher the Australian inflation.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/04/21/the-next-supplement-for-the-middle-earth-strategy-battle-game-focuses-on-the-dragon-emperor/

Boom! He looks very pretty, how about those rules though?

- F6 A3 M3 iwth heroic strike
- Board wide stand fast
- +1F for easterlings within 6"
- 12" banner
- Palanquin is a "completely new type of wargear" with W6 and gives him an additional S3 attack for each wound remaining. Plus the expected in the way protection.
- All black dragon upgrades in his warband are free. As a hero of legend this gives you 36pts back (18 warriors at 2pts each)

He's awesome and i want everything to do with this release, but even my patience is getting worn with the constant "soon TM"

Due to the new article, the book has been delayed by another six months.

 Arbitrator wrote:
Due to the new article, the book has been delayed by another six months.

Don't make me slap you.

Damn, he's beastly and no doubt. Be interesting to see how many points he's worth, as that's a lot of buffy goodness.

He looks impressive but for the emperor of Rhûn it seems fine. Specially being such a warrior culture.

The other two heroes, specially the new commander, feels less deserving of her beffy stats.

Anyway , easterlings are my main army and I'm very excited for actually having hero choices and options! Black Dragons were one of the worst unit upgrades in the game, but looks like they'll be worth it now! (because they are free lol)

Well only free for warbands led by the emperor or knights. But they'll be no brainer takes for those bands.

His rules are interesting. The full stat line and built in banner was expected. The +1 fight is interesting, but limited. The board wide stand fast is the real standout for me personally. I'd be interested in seeing if there will be any sort of degradation rules for the palanquin as it take wounds. Or if it's just going to be 6 outright wounds and then destroyed. Or if there's an option to take the emperor just on foot.

Can't wait no more for this supplement

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I'd be interested in seeing if there will be any sort of degradation rules for the palanquin as it take wounds. Or if it's just going to be 6 outright wounds and then destroyed. Or if there's an option to take the emperor just on foot.

The wording "This means that the model can dish out up to nine Strikes after winning a combat – three from him at Strength 4, and up to six Strength-3 hits from his porters." makes it sound like a degradation profile, but it'd be hard to justify any movement value if the profile accommodates for the deaths of individual porters (unless there were some fluff hand waving involving them being too injured to fight and instead just giving their all to support the palanquin before all of them are overwhelmed and felled)

 Snrub wrote:

 Snrub wrote:
I'll check my old white dwarfs, I might have it in one of them.

Found it.... and sort of wished I hadn't.

Those are AUS prices, correct?

I believe the troop boxes (24 infantry or 12 cavalry) were $20US and the scenario box sets were $40US.
Characters were $10US, and 3-pack metals were $12US or 15.
These prices held thru RotK.

It wasn't until after the Battles game came out that they started bumping prices & stripping out sprues from infantry boxes.

Edit: I seem to remember getting the game boxes for $60US?

I know I got FotR & TT for $40 each when RotK came out.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:
Due to the new article, the book has been delayed by another six months.

Don't make me slap you.

Nine months.

 Tim the Biovore wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I'd be interested in seeing if there will be any sort of degradation rules for the palanquin as it take wounds. Or if it's just going to be 6 outright wounds and then destroyed. Or if there's an option to take the emperor just on foot.

The wording "This means that the model can dish out up to nine Strikes after winning a combat – three from him at Strength 4, and up to six Strength-3 hits from his porters." makes it sound like a degradation profile, but it'd be hard to justify any movement value if the profile accommodates for the deaths of individual porters (unless there were some fluff hand waving involving them being too injured to fight and instead just giving their all to support the palanquin before all of them are overwhelmed and felled)

The previous sentence:
"And if he wins a Duel roll, after he has made his Strikes, the Royal Palanquin may also make Strikes equal to the number of Wounds it has remaining."

Yeah, but that doesn't really tell us if it gets weaker with wounds. Like if it loses speed (although i don't imagine so as it can't be more than mv 6) or if it gets destroyed after losing x wounds etc.

 skrulnik wrote:

 Snrub wrote:

 Snrub wrote:
I'll check my old white dwarfs, I might have it in one of them.

Found it.... and sort of wished I hadn't.

Those are AUS prices, correct?

I believe the troop boxes (24 infantry or 12 cavalry) were $20US and the scenario box sets were $40US.
Characters were $10US, and 3-pack metals were $12US or 15.
These prices held thru RotK.

It wasn't until after the Battles game came out that they started bumping prices & stripping out sprues from infantry boxes.

Edit: I seem to remember getting the game boxes for $60US?

I know I got FotR & TT for $40 each when RotK came out.

Your memory sounds right. When I got back into the hobby on the back of LotR, the main games were £40 and troop boxes were £12 for 24 infantry or 6 cavalry. That was 2002.

Back then it was £1 UKP to $2 USD, so the US actually caught a break for once - your $40 starter set "should" have been $80.

That was also the period when the Battle Games in Middle Earth magazine was running. It came with a frame of 12 troops or a metal figure for £4.

The switch to boxes with a single frame of 12 troops was the spring before the first Hobbit movie (I'm going to say spring 2012). The boxes went from £16-17 for 24 to £15 for 12, if I remember aright.

Join us again next week as we welcome a vicious, hard-hitting surprise that even a dragon has reason to fear.

Article!

Probably a non-terrible looking Windlance for Dale.

I wonder if they will be plastic. Not that it matters to me.

They hinted next week "something hard hitting a dragon would fear" so I assume it's a bolt thrower or similar.

zombie_sky_diver wrote:
I wonder if they will be plastic.

The second sentence says "Now you can add them to your own army with the upcoming Dale Commanders set from Forge World." so I doubt it.

Nice. GBHL's going to be memeing the hell out of the banner.

Beautiful and unexpected! I bet on a new windjammer me too.

How did Dale lose against Smaug with such might hats?