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Battle of Fornost and Fornost LL sound tasty

Shame they're going ont he shelf so soon.

Do you think the new Edition comes in November?

Or sooner?

Will probably be close to the new film, whenever that will be. Early December is my guess

Yeah, end of November or first days of December.

Well I'm a bit disappointed. The re-release of Gûlavhar is actually resin, not metal. The pre-order preview last week said he would be metal.

I hope with the new Edition, Rohan gets new Core Models.

zombie_sky_diver wrote:
Well I'm a bit disappointed. The re-release of Gûlavhar is actually resin, not metal. The pre-order preview last week said he would be metal.

They never specified what material he'd be, the section on "All of these products are in metal" was after the consolidated unit sets for rangers and Arnor, not the assorted character packs

Anyway, it really is just the oldest story in the game, but man, those prices for the warbands. Other than Arathorn and Halbarad, they're all Direct Only too, so not even a third party discount can save them. Real shame.

 Tim the Biovore wrote:
Anyway, it really is just the oldest story in the game, but man, those prices for the warbands. Other than Arathorn and Halbarad, they're all Direct Only too, so not even a third party discount can save them. Real shame.

It's been a while since I've been properly (unpleasantly) surprised by GW pricing, but this release wave managed it. Which is funny in a way, because the prices are perfectly in line with (some) other kits in the range; it just stands out more when seeing a full release wave together (been a while for Middle-earth...), a wave that combines old sets I remember the prices of back in the day (now re-released at prices closer to those of OOP figures on eBay than pure inflation increases), and new Forge World sets of several characters or groups of troops (which while proportionally cheaper than individual characters, still look bad due to the sheer magnitude of the pricetag). I guess some Old World releases have been similar, but some of those seemed to incorporate some pleasant surprises too, with bundled units of figures being almost reasonable in their prices - no luck of that here.

RazorEdge wrote:
I hope with the new Edition, Rohan gets new Core Models.

The upcoming film is pretty much Rohan taking center stage, so I'd say that this is very likely.

Do we think GW will make a push towards more plastics if the film takes off and demand returns?

we will hope, but I don't think so

they have written that the new heroes will fit the old plastic lines, no need to write that if we are going to see new core plastics

new plastics for new factions or new units that are in the movie but not a replacement of the old
(though I hope I am wrong)

I expect new plastic models for new heroes and that's all.
My bet is, the film will NOT be a such a great success and we'll have to wait until new live action film The hunt for Gollum hits cinemas to see a new wave of mass interest.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Do we think GW will make a push towards more plastics if the film takes off and demand returns?

The new film will be a moderate success at best. It's an anime about a fairly obscure part of Middle Earth history, coming after Rings of Power divided the fanbase and barely left a dent on the mainstream.

I doubt it's going to have a massive impact on the size of the game's user base, the main benefit to it is providing new content for the existing fans.

The new film will probably 'at best' be a blip on the games life span. We'll see a single boxset and maybe a year of the game be branded as the 'The War of the Rohirrim' battle game, before its rebranded back to being just MESBG again with a handful of new tWotR heroes & source book.

I doubt we'll even see much in the way of a range refresh for the new film, there isn't much they can do when when the films tone is very firmly anime in style and they can't really base new models on actors. Basing models on the look of the new aesthetic would be wildly different to the current 'realistic' tone of the game and would flop terribly. At most we might see things like a new Rohan rider kit which would still lean towards the look of the live action films.

I think GW are more likely to play it safe with this release and just bring a box set/bundle of old models, with one or two forgeworld models refreshed to coincide the movies release & use the movie logo.

Weirdly I find myself wishing GW got a license to do a Dune game based on the MESBG ruleset based on the Denis Villeneuve films.

zombie_sky_diver wrote:
Well I'm a bit disappointed. The re-release of Gûlavhar is actually resin, not metal. The pre-order preview last week said he would be metal.

Actually he is metal according to the website. "This multipart metal kit contains 8 components and 1x Citadel 60mm Round Base."

Given his size, that model has gotta be pretty heavy in metal. Assembling it might be frustrating too, especially if you're like me and hate pinning (I'm always afraid I won't get it lined up right).

 ZergSmasher wrote:

zombie_sky_diver wrote:
Well I'm a bit disappointed. The re-release of Gûlavhar is actually resin, not metal. The pre-order preview last week said he would be metal.

Actually he is metal according to the website. "This multipart metal kit contains 8 components and 1x Citadel 60mm Round Base."

Given his size, that model has gotta be pretty heavy in metal. Assembling it might be frustrating too, especially if you're like me and hate pinning (I'm always afraid I won't get it lined up right).

Someone with a listing of being a GW specialist games employee on their facebook said that the resin post was a copy paste error from when the kit was last made in resin and that the store listing should be metal. I wasn't 100% convinced this was fact, as I didn't think GW employees were allowed to make claims on social media any more and I didn't know who he was (I don't actually play MESBG at all or care about their rules. I've just collected the minis for use in other games) so take the info with a pinch of salt.

 ZergSmasher wrote:

zombie_sky_diver wrote:
Well I'm a bit disappointed. The re-release of Gûlavhar is actually resin, not metal. The pre-order preview last week said he would be metal.

Actually he is metal according to the website. "This multipart metal kit contains 8 components and 1x Citadel 60mm Round Base."

Given his size, that model has gotta be pretty heavy in metal. Assembling it might be frustrating too, especially if you're like me and hate pinning (I'm always afraid I won't get it lined up right).

Yeah, he's not particularly massive but those wings are heavy! I recall some cursing when repositioning them to be more horizontal, making them even less stable...

 Mallo wrote:


Someone with a listing of being a GW specialist games employee on their facebook said that the resin post was a copy paste error from when the kit was last made in resin and that the store listing should be metal. I wasn't 100% convinced this was fact, as I didn't think GW employees were allowed to make claims on social media any more and I didn't know who he was (I don't actually play MESBG at all or care about their rules. I've just collected the minis for use in other games) so take the info with a pinch of salt.

many, many GW people post on facebook, it's just that most ignore the worst parts of facebook groups. However, most of the Middle-earth team actively plays MESBG so post pretty regularly. I believe the person confirming Gulavhar is metal that you're talking about Rob Alderman, who is the lead designer/head of specialist games, for MESBG (along with TOW and BB), who actively participates (along with the other MESBG designer Jay Clare and some of the sculptors as well) on Great British Hobbit League, which is basically the semiofficial FB group for SBG content.

Your right about Gulavhar, it now says metal on his description.

I'm not crazy, it 110% definitely said Resin when the release first went up. They probably corrected it.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/29/wulf-brings-the-lord-of-the-rings-the-war-of-the-rohirrim-to-middle-earth-strategy-battle-game/





So it begins.

Nice enough Darkoath character, I guess.

Not bad considering it is based on a Character and a style I don't like.

Probs worth noting in the thread Wulf is a character from the forthcoming Movie, and the game is promised more in that vein.

Which is interesting. If the movie is well received, MESBG might be getting a shot in the arm in terms of new players.

Huh, hadn't expected to see models for a movie that won't be out for, what, 3.5 months?

Bit difficult to care at this stage. Model is alright. Not exactly Dunlending aesthetics in my book, but that's not the sculptor's fault. Does have a certain "if Gríma Wormtongue was a warrior" vibe, with the hair, fur, and dark colours.

Makes me wonder if the recent Barbarian types shown off might be taking cues, if not be designs entirely from, that new film?

Not a bad miniature at all. Not too over the top, though I don't love the armour on the horses head.

Better than the Carn Dum guys, I like that he's quite slender.

The design is still slightly busy but he's a faction leader rather than a regular trooper so I think it's fine, and not a million miles away from SBG's general look.

He'll probably be out of my price range though!

I like him, but there's a couple of bits that seem slightly off. His foot version has a little bit of a moonwalk swing going on with how far he's leaning. And the mouth of the mounted version seems a touch too wide in how far it's open.

It just occurred to me that, aside from all the other things that bother me about this miniature, the dude looks like Tommy Wiseau.