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 kodos wrote:


it is also the origin of all modern fantasy so there was no "more grounded" one before that

Not really disagree with you points, but this part is simply not true.
There were many contemporaries with Tolkien writing fantsy. "The worm Ourobouros" Bu ER Eddison is just the first that pop in mind written about a decade before the Hobbit.
Looking at the American pulp scene, Robert E Howard had invented Conan and built the sword and sorcery genre together with the other fantastic writers in the 1920s and 30s (Howard died about the time the hobbit was released).
More fairytale style Fantasy was also quite available with writers like Lord Dunsanys wonderful "the king of elflands daughter" from 1924.

These are just some examples of different styles of Fantasy already on the scene when Tolkien wrote his books.

So, lets recap what is coming soon...

Hera & Horse. (plastic)
Bolg & Warg. (plastic)
Imrahil & Horse. (plastic)
Goblins & Troll. (resin)
Armies Of Middle Earth. (book!)
Matchplay Guide. (pamphlet.)

 Fayric wrote:
These are just some examples of different styles of Fantasy already on the scene when Tolkien wrote his books.

of course there are other fantasy worlds that came up during that time, or are older than Lord of the Rings, but none of those shaped modern fantasy the way it did.

John Carter has had a big influence on SciFi although it is more fantasy, the Nibelungen and Grimms Fairy Tales existed long before but as soon as Dwarfs, Elves and Orcs are there it is Lord of the Rings based with the influence of others being on lower end
Conan exists but its influence outside dedicated material about that fantasy world is not there compared to Lord of the Rings

PS: and just to be clear, by modern fantasy I mean past WW2

SamusDrake wrote:
So, lets recap what is coming soon...

Hera & Horse. (plastic)
Bolg & Warg. (plastic)
Imrahil & Horse. (plastic)
Goblins & Troll. (resin)
Armies Of Middle Earth. (book!)
Matchplay Guide. (pamphlet.)

Looks right. Seems like they're just going to do a massive dump at some point rather than just do it piecemeal.

Yeah, I dont buy yhat argument. Armies of zombie ghosts, balrogs, fire breathing dragons, betentacled lake monsters, treemen, tom bombadil, etc all seem pretty fantastical to me.

most of those were considered to be real at some point in time (outside the Balrog and Tom which is a specific for LotR) and not just "fantastical"

people believed the Kraken to be real for a very long time, a Kraken like lake monster isn't very fantastical in that context, neither are Dragons when a lot of larger cities in central Europe have an origin story based on slaying a dragon

chaos0xomega wrote:
Yeah, I dont buy yhat argument. Armies of zombie ghosts, balrogs, fire breathing dragons, betentacled lake monsters, treemen, tom bombadil, etc all seem pretty fantastical to me.

But you don't see them around often. The average person in a Middle Earth village will never ever see any of those creatures. It's not like there are flights of dragons blackening the skies, or every forest in the world is overrun with ents.

It was only 60 years between the events of the hobbit and lotr. Smaug waking up and obliterating lake town would have still been fresh in people's memories far and wide.

This would make for a fine topic in it's own right.

The troll isn't to my taste for LOTR but it is fairly accurate to the Hobbit films, which is what they've always been basing these things on. I thought the Battle of 5 Armies film was the most warhammer-y film I'd ever seen in my life.

Please remember Troll design is from Weta, not GW.
Silmarillion share very few things with Age of Sigmar, even in the tone.

Johanxp wrote:

Silmarillion share very few things with Age of Sigmar, even in the tone.

Not sure if you answer a question with this or just throw it out there but I agree, everybody know AoS is a totally uniqe and protectable IP that GW just made up from scratch.
Horus Heresy on the other hand, theres your Silmarillion.

Just reading through the new edition of White Dwarf and they have a line up for all the launch models. The plastic kit for Hera is showcased on the Rohan side of things, so her pre-order should be very close now...

The editor also mentions that secrecy, regarding details of the film itself, is why it didn't feature in the December issue.

Hello Beechbone!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/eo3jlfyc/beechbonetm-is-the-biggest-enttm-in-fangorn-foresttm/

Well he looks rather fine. Resin, but after all the plastics, i guess it was to be expected. Looks great though

I really like the model, too.

I got this nagging feeling that WOTR's cinema release was at some point scheduled for this month, and everything got moved forward to Christmas at the last moment. Hera stayed put to ensure we'd get something this month.

Probably going to see Hera in this Sunday's pre-order preview, and then 3 months from now we'll get the Armies of Middle Earth book.

I have no desire to paint or collect Ents for MESBG, but Beechbone is probably the best Ent they've made yet. Even better than the new(ish) Treebeard that came out a few years ago.

I like him a lot. Great pose that matches that like two frames worth of footage from the movie.

He looks very tall as well.

SamusDrake wrote:
So, lets recap what is coming soon...

Hera & Horse. (plastic)
Bolg & Warg. (plastic)
Imrahil & Horse. (plastic)
Goblins & Troll. (resin)
Armies Of Middle Earth. (book!)
Matchplay Guide. (pamphlet.)

Don't forget the Easterling War Drake, which was name checked in a WarCom article last month (Imrahil's reveal). Almost certainly a resin release. The same rumour guy that said catapult troll is coming soon said the same for it.

So once again - by popular demand - lets recap whats coming next...

Hera & Horse. (plastic)
Bolg & Warg. (plastic)
Imrahil & Horse. (plastic)
Goblins & Troll. (resin)
Armies Of Middle Earth. (book!)
Matchplay Guide. (pamphlet.)
Beechbone (resin)
War Drakes of Rhûn (To be confirmed, likely resin).

Honestly not used to this much actviity in this thread. It's awfully disconcerting...

SamusDrake wrote:
So once again - by popular demand - lets recap whats coming next...

Hera & Horse. (plastic)
Bolg & Warg. (plastic)
Imrahil & Horse. (plastic)
Goblins & Troll. (resin)
Armies Of Middle Earth. (book!)
Matchplay Guide. (pamphlet.)
Beechbone (resin)
War Drakes of Rhûn (To be confirmed, likely resin).

"Apparently" there have been signs of the War Drakes actually at Nottingham. As in they're sculpted, just not released yet.

I'm late to the party, but I'd just like to chime in just how much I'm looking forward to Imrahil - I'm hoping his release will lead to more new Gondorians in plastic. (I'd love some re-designed fiefdoms! But also just some classic Gondor re-sculpts would make me so, so very happy!)

I always felt the game was designed and marketed around the Peter Jackson films, rather than the books. Characters like Imrahil I find a curious inclusion to the game. Its a good thing but...the game's narrative tends to be at a cross roads; some will shake their heads at Elves at Helmsdeep, while others are eager to be authentic to the films.

But if a player I'd be Bakshi all the way...

FIRE OF ISENGARD!!!

For what it's worth...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/dlog0p8e/narrative-play-in-middle-earthtm-join-the-final-battle/

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

"Apparently" there have been signs of the War Drakes actually at Nottingham. As in they're sculpted, just not released yet.

Eh, thats not a big surprise, its normal for GW to have a model done and dusted but "sit" on it for a while, sometimes even years, before releasing. Even for the likes of 40k where there is no licence issue.

> its normal for GW to have a model done and dusted but "sit" on it for a while

We saw this with The Old World releases, models made before The End Times are finally getting released now.

Evil returns to Middle-earth with the War Drakes of Rhûn and the Umbar Ballista

Those Drakes are really nice.

Excellent sculpts indeed.

Do the line, Bart:
*sigh*
"Shame it's not plastic"