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Why worry about the knock-off Chinese at this point? They're plastic and new, not going anywhere. The Swan Knights have only got a limited time and will still be damn expensive second hand even if they do come up.

Price list:

Looks like Faramir will be about £20 and the foot knights about £25.
Reasonable and about half the price of the resin ones if memory serves.

Next week? So very not the month or so away I'd wished it to be, but oh well. I'll grab Faramir if nothing else and if I can squeeze in the command so much the better. The foot and mounted knights I can pass on as you do see them pop on trading sites, sometimes even for not total ridiculous prices. The captain and banner bearer are far harder to come across.

Based off that UK/US price list, I'm going to predict the Australian prices thus; Farmair at $50, the Captain/Banner at $80, Foot Knights at $110 and Mounted Knights at $60.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Price list:

Looks like Faramir will be about £20 and the foot knights about £25.
Reasonable and about half the price of the resin ones if memory serves.

Bit annoying that they are again dropping large old world and middle earth releases on the same weeks, especially for limited releases.

I have fair amount of stuff for a swan knight army anyway, but I need foot knights and more commanders. And I don't play MESBG, I have armies for war of the ring. So its going to be a costly week after having just picked up wood elves and beastmen. So I do wish they would spread out their fantasy releases, I'd hoped that HH would had come in-between some of these releases.

 Mallo wrote:

Bit annoying that they are again dropping large old world and middle earth releases on the same weeks, especially for limited releases.

It turned out that Grand Cathay Battallion isn't limited edition after all. I guess it's time for me to pick up some MESBG instead.

I can't help it but I must shout about it - I have just this moment recieved my very first MESBG miniatures in the post, delivered by none other than The Man From Royal Mail, himself...

Hera and the Warg Chieftain are in the house, boys and girls!!!

Future purchases depends on GW's release schedule...

Welcome to what (was, I'm not if it still is, as I've not played the new edition) the best game in GW's stable.

If you haven't already, look at picking up the battle hosts. If they're armies that interest you, then they're great value and provide a great launch point for a new force.

Cheers. I did consider the Isengard set at one point but that fell by the wayside when WOTR came along and the focus changed. I've been hanging on for missing characters for a rather long time now...

 Snrub wrote:
Welcome to what (was, I'm not if it still is, as I've not played the new edition) the best game in GW's stable.

People keep saying this, but it is simply not true. Once upon a time it may have been true, in the dark days of 2006-2016. Most of the MEsbg players I know are not gaming butterflies trying all of GW’s games. Now, when it comes to GW mass battle games, like 40K, AoS, Legions Imperialis, this claim may still hold up as true.

But GW has made some major innovations in the skirmish-scale rulesets that blow away MEsbg and other rulesets in terms of tight, engaging rules. Kill Team and Underworlds are amazing. Blitz Bowl is up there, and Adeptus Titanicus is solid.

Well, that's just like, your opinion man.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Well, that's just like, your opinion man.

Sure… so was the post I responded to.

Yet, my opinion is not some random, baseless statement. I have been gaming for over 30 years. I’ve played 1000’s of different games and hundreds of miniature rulesets. MEsbg is a good, solid ruleset. But it’s a quarter-century old and there have been innovations since then that have bumped up other games above it. Still fun to play, but it doesn’t hold the mantle of No. 1 anymore in my opinion.

See, your second post is far more nuanced than the first one. I still wouldn't really agree with it or argue that the games you mentioned hardly compare to mesbg as a wargame as they're rather boardgames (not too familiar with the scale of Titanicus), but at least your post is open for debate.
My experience usually is "the Grass is always greener" and stuff. I started with lotr back then, saw some of its flaws (like dependance on rolling 6's or swingy cavalry rules) and tried out a couple of other games because of them, in the end they all have their own flaws and mesbg actually stays up there as a game that works from 2 to 80 miniatures and has that narrative side that no other GW game today has.

Cannot really compare MESBG with stuff like Blitz bowl or Underworld as they are a completely different beasts. It doesn't make sense.

I am a huge fan of Adeptus Titanicus, like the models and the lore but the system suffered the knight-only army plague and unfortunately some rule issues make it absolutely hard to play in a competitive manner - and the matched play guide couldn't do nothing, especially if the TO allows custom houses.

Lots of GW games are nice games, to be honest, it depends on what you seek. BUT...I tried almost every GW system so far but it's crazy how MESBG still remains, in my humble opinion, the best GW game, after 25 years since its launch.

callidusx3 wrote:

Yet, my opinion is not some random, baseless statement. I have been gaming for over 30 years.

I've been gaming for nearly 40 so my opinion outranks yours then.

Okay peeps, take the pissing contest elsewhere. This thread is for Middle-Earth news and rumors, not arguing which game is better.

 Snrub wrote:
What with plastic Imrahil, and the existing plastic mounted knights, dare we hope for some plastic foot knights/men-at-arms in the near future. And possibly a Dol Amroth battlehost? (Hint hint GW. Hint hint.)

Unfortunately seems very unlikely given that Men-at-arms of Dol Amroth have been moved to legacies. A shame; I really like their sensible-yet-decorative swam helmets and the overall Renaissancy look of pike blocks with heavy cav, all in plate armour (though preferring the more Dark Age aesthetics for Middle-earth overall and not feeling it's in line with how it's meant to be, but hey, they look great in isolation!). Until the big range purge, I had hoped for a metal re-release of the Men-at-arms to finally make that army with the plastic mounted knights, but alas...

Well this is just fething ludicrous. They want $110 for the Swan Knight command. Absolute balderdash. I'm not paying that much for four 20 year old metal models. Utter twaddle.

 Snrub wrote:
Based off that UK/US price list, I'm going to predict the Australian prices thus; Farmair at $50, the Captain/Banner at $80, Foot Knights at $110 and Mounted Knights at $60.

I wasn't far off with my guesses for Faramir who's $55 and Mounted Swan Knights who're $66 though. The foot Swan Knights come in at a surprising $74 for 6. That's much less then I would have expected. I wonder if they maybe switched the prices of the Foot Knights and Command by mistake.
Decided I'm not getting anything now, just out of spite.
Now, if no one objects, I'm going to go sulk about it loudly in this corner over here.

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Unfortunately seems very unlikely given that Men-at-arms of Dol Amroth have been moved to legacies.

Oh yeah. That's a bummer. Well I guess they could still do a pure Swan Knight battlehost if they end up making plastic foot knights.

Went for three packs of knights, a command and Fararmir. The knights were a decent price, but the command was a rip off. But, they still cost a lot more than that on the second hand market. So lesser of two evils.

Yeah I suspect I'll go back in a few days once I've internally grumbled about it for a bit and put Faramir in the cart.

Until then....

Faramir is actually a good price. My memory feels like he's barely changed from what he was when he was on general release.