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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Because things like this not only bring out the regular cretins, but also often brings out the idiot in people who are usually quite rational. The media doesn't help with their sensationalist fear mongering. It makes people crazy. That's why you get idiots shouting out of car windows at people who are out and about.


Must be an Anglo phenomenom , or once again we are isolated but neither our printpress nor our Television News were what you'd call fearmongering.
Infact even our Boulevard papers were calm for it more or less.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
France has a law against wearing face coverings.


That would be for religious reason, not practical, scientific ones.

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Regarding the summer, "Summer Heat May Not Diminish Coronavirus Strength"

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UK

Right now I think there's an element of not wanting minor changes in infection rates or reduction in the virus's potential to get taken too far resulting in a reduction in peoples isolation and social distancing.

Much like how early "young people are not as much at risk" translated too "young are immune go forth and party" that many took to be the interpretation.


That said its also so new that its hard to really pin patterns of behaviour and infection rates on it. They can only go by proxy of previous diseases and make theories on what might be the case. Also reductions are all well and good, but vulnerable groups will still be highly at risk from infection. So its not as if it makes it safe to return to normal.

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Pleasant Valley, Iowa

Voss wrote:
But I really dislike seeing nurses & etc in scrubs on public transportation. I at least want the illusion that the scrubs are clean, and they're not going to be after a bus/metro ride. I saw it a lot in Boston (and a lot of smoking nurses on the sidewalks outside hospitals, which just... ) Do the hospitals not provide staff lockers anymore?


They do, but they don't provide the time to change into them. Some nurses sued a while back under the FLSA due to the time it takes to change into and out of their scrubs every shift (15 minutes, twice a day) - complicated by inadequate facilities in the case, if I recall.

I don't know that case has been decided, but I know Amazon contractors sued over having to pass through security on the way out (30-45 minute waits for the employees), and lost, under the theory that they weren't hired to wait in security lines, so aren't entitled to pay for doing it (despite the fact the employer mandated the security check, controlled how long they took via staffing, and would fire anyone who chose not to pass through them).

So, if my choice is my employer stealing 130 hours of work from me per year, or riding the subway in scrubs...

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 Easy E wrote:
 reds8n wrote:

One of the best things about being on a forum a long time is the way old friends pop back up into existence every now and again.

Spoiler:

Martin Shkreli is trying to use the coronavirus pandemic to get out of prison

" I am one of the few executives experienced in ALL aspects of drug development from molecule creation and hypothesis generation,” Shkreli wrote"





just need that guy who used to post about the size of asian genitals to return and it really be the end times indeed.



All we need now is a Zimmerman angle on this COVID-19 business.


He's got to be freaking out right about now. So many suspicious-looking people running around wearing masks and he can't shoot them...

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Spoiler:
 Vulcan wrote:
 Easy E wrote:
 reds8n wrote:

One of the best things about being on a forum a long time is the way old friends pop back up into existence every now and again.

[spoiler]
Martin Shkreli is trying to use the coronavirus pandemic to get out of prison

" I am one of the few executives experienced in ALL aspects of drug development from molecule creation and hypothesis generation,” Shkreli wrote"




just need that guy who used to post about the size of asian genitals to return and it really be the end times indeed.



All we need now is a Zimmerman angle on this COVID-19 business.


He's got to be freaking out right about now. So many suspicious-looking people running around wearing masks and he can't shoot them...


Everyone does look like they are either about to go elbows deep into a surgery or they are on their way to rob a bank. The different flavors of masks are all over the place. I received a tutorial to my work email on how to wrap a shirt around my head if I don’t have a mask.
   
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We've seen people wearing underwear for masks. Literal underwear.

I just hope it's NEW underwear...

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Gambody released a bunch of free STLs for printing stylized masks. Sure, you can go out with underwear on your face, but why not Immortan Joe?



 lord_blackfang wrote:
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Bodt

 Vulcan wrote:
We've seen people wearing underwear for masks. Literal underwear.

I just hope it's NEW underwear...


I see that as evidence for my earlier point about a fear frenzy...

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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Because things like this not only bring out the regular cretins, but also often brings out the idiot in people who are usually quite rational. The media doesn't help with their sensationalist fear mongering. It makes people crazy. That's why you get idiots shouting out of car windows at people who are out and about.


Assuming your flag is correct I have no idea what media you're talking about other than the usual suspects who, quite frankly, cater to a demographic that could best be described as regular cretins. I think the media has struggled to accurately report on a lot of the Covid-19 crisis because they generally suck at any kind of scientific reporting but none of the mainstream media I've seen has been anywhere near fear mongering or sensationalist.
   
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Bodt

true, I may have been overly critical there and also tarring many with one brush. I think it is more to do with not explaining things properly. the whole deaths with vs deaths from never gets explained, and makes the numbers seem a lot scarier than the actual reality.

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Bristol

 Vulcan wrote:
We've seen people wearing underwear for masks. Literal underwear.

I just hope it's NEW underwear...


But the bacteria and viruses nesting in my old underwear will fight the covid-19 virus and keep me safe...

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Bodt

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Vulcan wrote:
We've seen people wearing underwear for masks. Literal underwear.

I just hope it's NEW underwear...


But the bacteria and viruses nesting in my old underwear will fight the covid-19 virus and keep me safe...


Plus, if you can still smell it you know you probably dont have the virus...

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england

tneva82 wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Hey guuuuuuuuys! You thought attacking 5G networks was bad, how about attacking healthcare workers!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/as-coronavirus-fears-grow-doctors-and-nurses-face-abuse-attacks/ar-BB12kjM9?li=BBnb7Kz

Just in case your faith in humanity had a few sparks dancing around during all this.


Old news in uk where ambulances were vandalized and nhs workers were told to hide id badges as they were targeted to get free food certain companies offered for nhs workers. Pathetic. Get paid pittances(health service workers rarely get decent pay compared to what they do), risk health and even life and are in enchanced danger of robbery. And getting abused by daily mail readers in uk for added fun.

Yeah but at least we're clapping... That balances everything out.
   
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Bodt

Ah yes, the weekly clap. the self flagellation of the coronavirus pandemic. I'm sure another round is planned for tonight...

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Wrexham, North Wales

I'm sure it's appreciated... but better pay and conditions, reinvestment in the GP surgeries and getting rid of the competitive market would be a better token of thanks.

But relax. This will all be forgotten at the next general election when the electorate will be more concerned about how much tax they might pay.
   
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Canterbury

MarkNorfolk wrote:
I
But relax. This will all be forgotten at the next general election when the electorate will be more concerned about how much tax they might pay.











all in it together though yeah ?

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Bodt

What do you mean competitive market? do you mean private healthcare? I think there should be an opt out option for those willing and able to buy private health insurance. I'd happily buy private for my family if it meant a slightly lower tax rate for myself.

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 reds8n wrote:
MarkNorfolk wrote:
I
But relax. This will all be forgotten at the next general election when the electorate will be more concerned about how much tax they might pay.



Spoiler:








all in it together though yeah ?




Tell me, 10'000 £ for a laptop and headset?


Like, things they mostlikely allready own?


That seems a bit daft now doesn't it?

Wait, they allready get 26'000 / year for just office related things?
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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
What do you mean competitive market? do you mean private healthcare? I think there should be an opt out option for those willing and able to buy private health insurance. I'd happily buy private for my family if it meant a slightly lower tax rate for myself.


I believe he wants to get rid of the laws and quotas that are there to simulate "market reality " for the NHS.

And again it's not a question of either or.

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UK

Just a minor note but the money is for "MPs and their departments for office supplies" not just the MP themseles. Of course this will vary; some departments might be tiny one or two person setups; others might be far more extensive.

So without numbers on how many people there are, on average in an MP department its hard to judge how wild the numbers are.



Of course the main thrust is that surely doctors deserve better pay and standards before we concern ourselves with the department of parks and recreations ability to monitor water sprinklers at home.

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Canterbury

how many people who earn a minimum of £80k a year and regularly use email/similar do not have a computer of some sort already ?

Or hadn't already purchased one from their existing £26k pe annum of expenses.

10k extra is farcical.

from the article :


The Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (Ipsa), the expenses regulator, also relaxed rules on the evidence MPs must provide and suspended the 90-day window for claims.

The credit limit on MPs’ payment cards has been increased to £10,000, and they can now spend up to £5,000 in a single transaction.

One MP said he expected that the money would mostly be used to assist staff, as the majority of MPs would already have home offices.
However, there is nothing in the rules to prevent MPs claiming it for themselves.

The news follows the announcement last month of a £20 million increase in MPs’ staffing budgets. MPs received an extra £25,000 for their staff after a parliamentary review suggested that they were underpaid compared with workers in other sectors. Sir Lindsay Hoyle, the Speaker, said at the time that his staff were “struggling to cope”.

Ipsa was created in response to the parliamentary expenses scandal of 2009, after which several rules were introduced to limit MPs’ claims. These included a ban on the purchase of second homes and on claims for home refurbishments. Last year, however, a Sunday Times investigation revealed that MPs claimed 22 per cent more in expenses than they did in 2009. In 2017-18, the total claimed by MPs rose to a record £116 million.



what could possibly be suspicious here then eh ?

I'm sure it'll all be well observed and scrutinsed

https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1247565360431280140


I hope we don't have an inquiry when this is over. If there are lessons to be learned, fine; but if there is just blame to be spread, forget it

Chief political correspondent at the Independent.


back on topic :

Spoiler:






https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/covid19

my 92 year old grandad has been taken to live with my parents for the moment, they checked his answer phone back at his home and he'd had 6 or 7 calls regarding either donations to the NHS or how he'd be seen outside at the wrong time and needed to pay a fine.

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Do they ever catch the vermin who try to pull these kinds of scams?
   
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Devon, UK

 Future War Cultist wrote:
Do they ever catch the vermin who try to pull these kinds of scams?


Surprisingly, yes, sometimes.

The last time I changed my car, I enquired after an ad that looked a little too good, but given the vehicle had high mileage wasn't beyond the realms of plausibility.

The now classic "I'm out of the country, but for a deposit I'll get someone to deliver it to you on 7 days approval" type scam then ensued, which, if you're unfamiliar, results in no car and the total loss of whatever deposit they persuade you to part with. I reported the ad to Auto Trader, Action Fraud and even managed to find the legitimate dealer (the car was genuinely for sale, just not by the guy advertising it) to give him a heads up.

Much to my surprise, I got a letter from the Met Police about 6 months later telling me that my evidence had been part of the prosecution that had got a guy successfully convicted.

So, while I'm sure it's a minority of cases, it's worth reporting because you never know how important your information can turn out to be.


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 Future War Cultist wrote:
Do they ever catch the vermin who try to pull these kinds of scams?


A very high percentage of cold call scams operate from India, and the police there turn a very blind eye, so no.

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 Future War Cultist wrote:
Do they ever catch the vermin who try to pull these kinds of scams?


On occasion. But even when they don’t, the fact people fall victim is literally my bread and butter.

I know I keep mentioning my career, but not being specific, but if you can make an educated guess as to why (and the where) hopefully you can appreciate why!

The rules and laws are mostly in the consumer’s favour.

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I think the main problem for a lot of the scams is that they are very cheap to setup. A round-robin email to millions of emails the only thing you need is a single database of emails - after that the rest of the infrastructure you need is a computer, email address and a telephone.

A lot of the other scams are the same, they are cheap; whilst the potential rewards from even one person who falls into the net, are big.

Simple, cheap and I'd wager pretty quick to setup. It makes them an idea kind of scam to run.

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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
What do you mean competitive market? do you mean private healthcare? I think there should be an opt out option for those willing and able to buy private health insurance. I'd happily buy private for my family if it meant a slightly lower tax rate for myself.



What would be the advantage of buying private health insurance in exchange for a lower tax rate? You might get lower taxes, sure, but you'd almost assuredly pay more for your premiums than you would save from reducing your tax rate, let alone your additional out-of-pocket costs.

They reinstated the CPT from the Roosevelt.


They did? Haven't seen any reports on this, makes me wonder what the "real story" here is considering SECNAVs resignation.

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Bodt

chaos0xomega wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
What do you mean competitive market? do you mean private healthcare? I think there should be an opt out option for those willing and able to buy private health insurance. I'd happily buy private for my family if it meant a slightly lower tax rate for myself.



What would be the advantage of buying private health insurance in exchange for a lower tax rate? You might get lower taxes, sure, but you'd almost assuredly pay more for your premiums than you would save from reducing your tax rate, let alone your additional out-of-pocket costs..



Quicker service, choice of medical care, better quality care etc.

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