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Police last night were assaulted by groups of people drinking in a historic area of Plymouth that doesn't allow outside drinking while trying to administer first aid to a member of the public.
I can't process the meaning of those words. Is it because I am drunk?
queen_annes_revenge wrote: Terrifying indeed. But if it follows the pattern of the last few weeks, I doubt we have much to worry about.
Yes and no - see the issue isn't just that one beach, that might be the worst case situation. However if people are doing it at one beach, they will be doing it at others. So whilst one example might not bring the country to a halt, the population all going on holiday to the beach as normal might well bring about huge problems. That's why its so worrying because you know its not just happening at that beach. Furthermore all it takes is one infected person to spread it to others and it jumps person to person - then all those people go home to different corners of the country.
Heck in the UK you can quite easily drive by car one end to the other in a day. So a major event at one end of the country could infect families who travel home to any other corner of the nation.
Local lockdowns only work if the population isn't being highly mobile.
Of course on the flipside all those beach kiosks, food outlets, rental firms etc... should all, in theory, be at the height of their season. This week should be record temps and attendance and them making bulk profits to cover them the rest of the year. Instead they've lost all income up till now and even now many won't be able to function (eg food outlets).
Voss wrote: Always baffled by those pictures. Even without the pandemic, why would you want to subject yourself to that mess?
I really don't get beach obsessed people.
Aye, even at the best of times the beach is just dull. Those pictures look like some kind of special hell
Yeah. Hot and crowded...Seriously UK is island country. Aren't there more beaches so everybody don't have to cram into same beach?
I would have thought beaches is one thing UK wouldn't be in short supply.
Voss wrote: Always baffled by those pictures. Even without the pandemic, why would you want to subject yourself to that mess?
I really don't get beach obsessed people.
Aye, even at the best of times the beach is just dull. Those pictures look like some kind of special hell
Yeah. Hot and crowded...Seriously UK is island country. Aren't there more beaches so everybody don't have to cram into same beach?
I would have thought beaches is one thing UK wouldn't be in short supply.
Most of them are rocky, bleak, stony, cold, windy, not all that big, or being washed steadily away due to multiple elements including unregulated off-shore deep sea aggregate dredging.
So when we have a warm sandy beach it gets all the attention. That and years of victorian "the beach is good for you" propaganda which I'm pretty sure that aside from hayfever sufferers, is pretty much not true.
Well not all are as walkable (that Definition varies due to local capabilities) like these, also not all are of a high enough tempereature Water wise.
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Knockagh wrote: Quality food is taking a bad hit. I do free range corn fed chickens and orders have collapsed. Usually I do 30000 birds every 8 weeks but last cycle I had to lie out for 4 weeks as there was such poor demand. Indoor fast grown birds are selling really well those guys are turning cycles in around 10 days. I’m back in now but if I have another month sit out next crop it’s going to start to make the farm sweat...
Is that due to restaurant drop in demand?
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No. The vast vast majority of chicken in restaurants are indoor cheaply produced birds. In the U.K. most will be imports from Holland, which incidentally has some of the lowest welfare codes anywhere.
High welfare poultry is sold primarily through the supermarkets, in low volume. You might find some sold in local butchers or farmers markets but these are unlikely to be accredited as free range or organic, your only accepting them on the honesty of the butcher, but knowing the numbers produced, the vast majority of these smaller retailers have got to be lying about the standards.
In fairness to the fools on the beach today after seeing the mass gatherings over the last few weeks it was pretty obvious no one would stick to any form of distancing. It might not be popular to say it but the protests pretty much finished any societal approach to combat Covid.
Weren't the minorities in America being hit disproportionally hard by Covid? And was there claims of racial profiling in regards to the virus in USA? I know there was in China but didn't hear anything similar from America.
Weren't the minorities in America being hit disproportionally hard by Covid? And was there claims of racial profiling in regards to the virus in USA? I know there was in China but didn't hear anything similar from America.
They're not doing it because anything actually happened. They're doing it because "Minorities don't feel safe wearing masks in public because they're worried cops might attack them" or some BS like that. So they feel they should have free reign to ignore the rules because of that.
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At times I wonder if american advertisers and businesses are to blame in some way. They've spent nearly 50 years drilling into americans, practically from cradle to grave, that everything should be "convenient". That somehow if something isn't 'convenient" it's wrong and bad. That somehow 'convenience" is just something we're all entitled to and should expect as a matter of course.
So an inconvenient plague comes along and suddenly waay too many americans just can't deal with it like adults.
"But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens, you will not be missed..."
Well somebody bothered to investigate fairly obvious. While non-compliance doesn't mean you are psychopathic the persons with those are rather likely to rail against limitations.
tneva82 wrote: So us gets highest reported cases of corona since this started. Not looking like it's getting under control any time soon
There is a very dark irony buried in these numbers. Summer was touted by some as likely to slow down the virus. But reading up on Arizona, without a lockdown, the incredible summer heat makes people congregate indoors (AC) and that this is assisting the spread.
Sorry for my spelling. I'm not a native speaker and a dyslexic.
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Weren't the minorities in America being hit disproportionally hard by Covid? And was there claims of racial profiling in regards to the virus in USA? I know there was in China but didn't hear anything similar from America.
They're not doing it because anything actually happened. They're doing it because "Minorities don't feel safe wearing masks in public because they're worried cops might attack them" or some BS like that. So they feel they should have free reign to ignore the rules because of that.
POC worrying about getting the cops called on them, or much worse, for wearing DIY face coverings is pretty reasonable.
Meh, the only thing unreasonable is a 19 Weeks average training time for cops.
This it ain't, especially in regards to the plandemic hitting them harder.
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nfe wrote: POC worrying about getting the cops called on them, or much worse, for wearing DIY face coverings is pretty reasonable.
As much as this might be worth discussing, that comment from Grey Templar is serious politics bait and certainly going to bring down the hammer on this thread.
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Future War Cultist wrote: My Dad’s friends dad died yesterday. The damage covid did to him was too great.
Sorry for your loss, that is sad to hear after what happened over the last few months of the process.
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Sorry for my spelling. I'm not a native speaker and a dyslexic.
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Weren't the minorities in America being hit disproportionally hard by Covid? And was there claims of racial profiling in regards to the virus in USA? I know there was in China but didn't hear anything similar from America.
POC worrying about getting the cops called on them, or much worse, for wearing DIY face coverings is pretty reasonable.
Yep, especially because there were a few instances of people being told to remove their masks at a Wal-Mart back in March or April as they were "making others uncomfortable".
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Hehheh. Bbc seems to know more about uk finland travel restriction lifting than Finland's goverment.
And sweden acting like petulent child. You put economy over controlling spread of virus, don't expect countries allow travel to dnd from freely while virus is spreading with no sign of respite. (indeed in finland around border of sweden there's been spike and many cases related to visits there...yet sweden insists ：it's not risk country)
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On an off shoot to the thread but still related as mentioned about the uk beaches yesterday being packed out, it seems not only did the mass of lemmings jam the area up at Bournemouth to dangerous levels but left behind a massive 22 thousand tonnes of rubbish and crap.
Nice one people, how much of your rubbish is now floating in the channel. So much for the keep Britain tidy campaign huh.
The news from America in there is scary, Texas estimating a 12% infection rate now. That's over a 1 in 10 chance that, if you're in Texas, you've got it.
The US stats are in general scary and it seems that Worldometers might have slightly different/updated data because it looks like the USA has now hit 47,000 cases a day, the worst rating its had thus far. Looking at the chart I think that rapid increase is going to keep going up very quickly. Especially if the USA keeps having issues with a lack of proper unified lockdowns; protests; and even pushback from the population on some safety measures (I think the videos of people arguing against wearing masks in government meetings have gone viral around the net so I'd wage many of us have seen them by now - if not they are easily found).
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Also some anger at the recent UK issues with parties that have been happening - sports parties, drinking parties, beach parties etc... The stats for the UK that he brings up on infection rate you can see here if you click on the 7 day average option under the charts:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Again one can see our numbers getting stable at new infections per day. He's estimating by July we'll start to see a rise so the question is really how much and how fast of a rise - a small blip or a steadily shooting up value. I think if we could have reduced lockdown and NOT had the parties and beach events and other mass gatherings we might have gone up a bit but at least being steadier for longer. Sadly mass gatherings are likely to make the growth faster which means an increased chance of lockdowns. Personally I don't think testing is good enough nor fast enough* nor is the app/track and trace ready to do effective regional lockdown.
Personally I wish the UK would impose mask wearing as a general "anywhere in public" mandate. Not only to help reduce accidental spread, but to get some sense of the remaining seriousness of the situation into people's minds. Like the video above, I'm still confused why we are imposing mask wearing in public transport, but not public places as well. I'd also like to see something in the relaxing process get firmed up again - something really simple like rejecting the 1m and going back to 2m enforced social distancing. Even though the government "relaxation" was more of a "well if you can't keep to 2m you can go to 1m if necessary" which is basically how most people were acting anyway.
I've a feeling that come late July we'll be seeing daily infections going up and if we get back to hitting 3K a day or greater I can see lockdowns hitting most of the country once again. Certainly in the northern and midland regions where it seems to be getting a tighter hold at the moment.
That said I'm not sure if the government has got it in them to do lockdowns again; that or they are saving it for when infections continue to spike and then have a more rapid rise as we leave summer and slip into autumn and winter. Personally I'd have liked to be well below 1K perhaps even 500 a day infections before even considering ending lockdown (I mean we could aim for 0 like some other nations as well). Being at 2K its only just below half of our worst rate at 5K.
*I'm not going to say the government is to blame on this entirely. Testing is a minefield of demand and if you look at the world stats right now the UK is testing pretty well.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries If you look at tests per million of population the UK is only behind much smaller nations. In fact there's no nation with more than 10million people higher than the UK. If you look at total tests we are in the top 4, only now behind nations vastly bigger than ourselves in population.
To me this suggests that whilst there is improvement to be made, the UK is at least not bottom of the barrel here.
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We reopened and had allready a super spreader in a Club of Zürich, 5 confirmed another 300 in quarantaine.
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Sadly the only sane one was the firearms shopkeeper who did raise a legitimate argument against masks. Whilst its likely a point that would be countered by other means - eg show your face outside the window then place mask on to enter shop; or serve at the door only etc... There are ways around the issue of course. But it was one of the few in that video that shows a legitimate argument and concern.
What's more worrying is all those people who were anti-mask would likely sue their doctor if they had an operation performed on them and the doctor was operating with a mask.
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