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 Galas wrote:
So basically everything we allready knew and was confirmed with a bunch of "plausible" speculation based on the GAMA teasers.

Adepticon ain't all that far away, so it's not like we'll have to wait long to see if this is true.

[EDIT]: Assuming, that is, that Adepticon isn't cancelled.

If we’re going totally nuts on this then...
Fabius steps into his laboratory. Walks through a secret compartment at the back. Into a room with two objects... a plinth with a box in it and a shroud about 9ft tall. From the box there are moans and screams. Fabius opens it up and from inside is the perfectly preserved head of Ferrus Mannus. It is constantly goading Fabius about his failures. Fabius ignores it as he has heard its jibes for 10,000 years. He then hears another voice, a more cracking yet sibilant voice from the shroud. He pulls it off and behind is a mirror. Yet in the mirror is not his reflection it that of Fulgrim. Fabius screams and starts to pull at his face and armour. All the time the head of Ferrus laughs without humour. After what seems like no time at all Fabius opens his eyes and steps forward but is stopped. Held back by an invisible force. No not a force, but glass. He looks out and sees his Primarchs pick up the box containing his former brother’s severed head. Fulgrim blows Fabius a kiss and walks away leaving the Primogenitor alone, trapped and ultimately forgotten.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Why would anyone buy a (presumably) expensive campaign book for the likes of one relic?
.

Well, because you might not know 100% what the book has (despite YouTube previews).

I bought Phoenix Rising for my Ynnari, only to find out that the only new rule they got was "if you play Ynnari, you cannot use any of the new rules presented in this book". ..... thank's for 30 Euros.

This hobby is a cruel mistress

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Why would anyone buy a (presumably) expensive campaign book for the likes of one relic?
.

Well, because you might not know 100% what the book has (despite YouTube previews).

I bought Phoenix Rising for my Ynnari, only to find out that the only new rule they got was "if you play Ynnari, you cannot use any of the new rules presented in this book". ..... thank's for 30 Euros.

This hobby is a cruel mistress

I mean.. I suppose it looks nicer alongside your codexes then a dog earred magazine.. :/

nokranok wrote:

We also know that GW still needs to cover Deathwatch, Custodes, Sisters of Battle, Harlequins, Necrons and Death Guard in Psychic Awakening from their various announcements.

Are daemon still on the menu? I thought they were planned in March, right?

Daemons are in Engine War I think

https://www.adepticon.org/2020/03/12/adepticon-2020-has-been-cancelled/

Adepticon has been cancelled, though for anyone that's been following the news that shouldn't come as a surprise. I assume GW will still do something on WHC since they should have plenty of releases in the near future and this pandemic won't end anytime soon

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
[EDIT]: Assuming, that is, that Adepticon isn't cancelled.

A hour later...

PiñaColada wrote:
https://www.adepticon.org/2020/03/12/adepticon-2020-has-been-cancelled/

Adepticon has been cancelled, though for anyone that's been following the news that shouldn't come as a surprise. I assume GW will still do something on WHC since they should have plenty of releases in the near future and this pandemic won't end anytime soon

Yikes.

nokranok wrote:

We also know that GW still needs to cover Deathwatch, Custodes, Sisters of Battle, Harlequins, Necrons and Death Guard in Psychic Awakening from their various announcements.

Are daemon still on the menu? I thought they were planned in March, right?

Daemons will be in Machine Wars out next month I think.
I believe the last book in the Psychic Awakening series will have the Death Guard, Custodes, Sisters of Silence, and Ultramarines and will tie in with the release of the third book in the Dark Imperium trilogy. Wild speculation if that happens is a newly primarisised Captain Sicarius will sweep in at the last minute, but I haven’t read Knights Of Macragge yet so I don’t know if that’s possible.
I hope Harlequins get a full release not just the “requires codex Harlequins” footnote in Phoenix Rising. One other thing to consider with this series is how long does GW want to run it, each faction gets one entry and it’s done or each faction gets as many entries until we stop buying the books.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Why would anyone buy a (presumably) expensive campaign book for the likes of one relic?

I mean, for a DE player that's no worse than what they got in Phoenix Rising.

 Apple Peel wrote:
I definitely feel that Ghaz has just outgrown Yarrick as an opponent. He’d definitely be interesting to have a tactical battle with, but Yarrick facing Ghazghkull would just be a retelling of a done story.

As opposed to what, "Space Marine Commander fights Xenos, is wounded but wins!"?

But I shouldn't be surprised to see Yarrick relegated to a non-factor. Cadians barely featured in Fall of CADIA afterall and there's barely been a peep about the Guard since.

But I shouldn't be surprised to see Yarrick relegated to a non-factor. Cadians barely featured in Fall of CADIA afterall and there's barely been a peep about the Guard since.

And sadly there probably won't be until there are new plastics to hawk.

Hopefully the teasers and announcements set for Adepticon still happen at roughly around the same time. I don't know about you all, but I for one would love to get news that's not about death rates, infection percentages and about how important hand-washing and enforcing social isolation is.

I'm hoping they preview stuff around the same time they were going to at Adepticon.

Curious what will happen with the Spring FAQ which usually comes out a few weeks after Adepticon. Adepticon was the going to be the chance to playtest the recent Space Marine changes in a large environment, so there will be a lot of missing data in writing the FAQ.

 Asmodai wrote:
I'm hoping they preview stuff around the same time they were going to at Adepticon.

Curious what will happen with the Spring FAQ which usually comes out a few weeks after Adepticon. Adepticon was the going to be the chance to playtest the recent Space Marine changes in a large environment, so there will be a lot of missing data in writing the FAQ.

I would imagine it'll be the same day/weekend but probably just on a British time schedule now.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Hopefully the teasers and announcements set for Adepticon still happen at roughly around the same time. I don't know about you all, but I for one would love to get news that's not about death rates, infection percentages and about how important hand-washing and enforcing social isolation is.

Promoting social isolation in Finland does indeed seem unnecessary.

Unless GW's time schedule is significantly affected due to shipping delays from China or a reduced production capacity, one imagines their planned releases are unchanged, and with that the previews should get out at the normal times too.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 Apple Peel wrote:
I definitely feel that Ghaz has just outgrown Yarrick as an opponent. He’d definitely be interesting to have a tactical battle with, but Yarrick facing Ghazghkull would just be a retelling of a done story.

As opposed to what, "Space Marine Commander fights Xenos, is wounded but wins!"?

But I shouldn't be surprised to see Yarrick relegated to a non-factor. Cadians barely featured in Fall of CADIA afterall and there's barely been a peep about the Guard since.

More like Space Marine Commander fights Xenos boss, is killed in a draw, and returns for round two. Remember, you die when you become Primaris.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
[EDIT]: Assuming, that is, that Adepticon isn't cancelled.

A hour later...

PiñaColada wrote:
https://www.adepticon.org/2020/03/12/adepticon-2020-has-been-cancelled/
Adepticon has been cancelled, though for anyone that's been following the news that shouldn't come as a surprise. I assume GW will still do something on WHC since they should have plenty of releases in the near future and this pandemic won't end anytime soon

Yikes.

He has the second sight! WITCHCRAFT!!! Where's my immolator...

Can someone pleeeaaase leak some of Ghazghkull’s stats? Pleeeaase?! :(

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Can someone pleeeaaase leak some of Ghazghkull’s stats? Pleeeaase?! :(

None of his stats are "-", and both his M and A stats have a value greater than 0.

 Dysartes wrote:
None of his stats are "-",

So what you mean is that either he doesn't have a degrading profile, or his degrading profile has a new value for every stat?

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Can someone pleeeaaase leak some of Ghazghkull’s stats? Pleeeaase?! :(

WS2+ BS5+ Sv 2+
He also has ’Ere We Go, Mob Rule and Dakka! Dakka! Dakka! among other abilities.

 Jidmah wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Can someone pleeeaaase leak some of Ghazghkull’s stats? Pleeeaase?! :(

WS2+ BS5+ Sv 2+
He also has ’Ere We Go, Mob Rule and Dakka! Dakka! Dakka! among other abilities.

I laughed harder than I should have.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
None of his stats are "-",

So what you mean is that either he doesn't have a degrading profile, or his degrading profile has a new value for every stat?

Yes.

 Jidmah wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Can someone pleeeaaase leak some of Ghazghkull’s stats? Pleeeaase?! :(

WS2+ BS5+ Sv 2+
He also has ’Ere We Go, Mob Rule and Dakka! Dakka! Dakka! among other abilities.

Watch him not have Ere We Go or something

Leggy Lovely and House-Grot's favourite Ghazaghkull Mag Uruk Thraka?

His stats?

The curvy beauty is reputed to be 44-18-26.

 Dysartes wrote:
Yes.

Are there special characters with degrading profile? I think some tyranid beasties may have, but I think Guilliman doesn't.
Who is taking bets on whether Gazhkull will degrade over wounds?

All the tank special characters have degrading profiles AFAIK (like Pask).

If Ghaz is over 9 wounds he'll have a degradation profile, is there anything that doesn't? (Not counting stuff like the hemlock which effectively doesn't degrade but still has a table)

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Yes.

Are there special characters with degrading profile? I think some tyranid beasties may have, but I think Guilliman doesn't.
Who is taking bets on whether Gazhkull will degrade over wounds?

Everything with 10 or more wounds has a degrading profile. Santa Grimnar on his sleigh degrades, albeit only his movement and the number of attacks he gets from his wolves.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Yes.

Are there special characters with degrading profile? I think some tyranid beasties may have, but I think Guilliman doesn't.
Who is taking bets on whether Gazhkull will degrade over wounds?

If he has over 9 wounds I hope he reverse-degrades (get's stronger as he takes damage).

This is starting to feel like a real drag now, the news has been sooo sloowwwww this week. People are starting to vent their frustration on the FB page too, every post regarding the Sisters release has various "this isn't Saga of the Beast comments all over them.

Edit - Oh yea, something I haven't seen mentioned anywhere - isn't Ragnar supposed to have 2 doggos with him? I didn't see their models anywhere? Did Ghazzy at least kill them? Has Ragnar pulled a John Wick?! Dayummm.

I suggested he should have the mangler squig degradation table from AoS. Basically he gets weak at the middle tier but strong again near death since he's proppa krumpin' then.

In regards to Togusas point about places closing, I hope not. I went out to my FLGS and stocked up on some minis today if there's a quarantine coming in the near future (I'm one of those weirdos with zero painting queue). If you're stuck inside for 14 days then some minis to paint is a pretty decent way to spend your time IMO. Small local gyms are probably going the way of the dodo in many cases though, I doubt many of them can afford to operate at 25%-0% capacity for several months if it comes to that.