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Nope. Not a chance. I'm my retconned, inner world of 40K, the wolvies are pretty much alive and integrated on Ragnar's profile, thus being the reason for his +2 attacks on SHock Assault.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Playing Warhammer while living in Aussieland IS pretty questionable. Unless they print money on eucalyptus leaves, in which case it does grow on trees.
NinthMusketeer wrote: Playing Warhammer while living in Aussieland IS pretty questionable. Unless they print money on eucalyptus leaves, in which case it does grow on trees.
Nonesense. I thought Australians could just do some hiking in the outback, kick over some stones, collect whatever's under it and come away with a pretty reasonable Tyranid army, no?
NinthMusketeer wrote: Playing Warhammer while living in Aussieland IS pretty questionable. Unless they print money on eucalyptus leaves, in which case it does grow on trees.
Nonesense. I thought Australians could just do some hiking in the outback, kick over some stones, collect whatever's under it and come away with a pretty reasonable Tyranid army, no?
An all biotitan army is sadly illegal by the rules.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Actually Ragnar recruited himself. He was the chapter's youngest recruiter ever at the time too! He just skipped all the steps between "not a space wolf" and "space wolf recruiter".
Sorry I don't know the silly name for space wolf recruiters, I'm gonna guess grey wolves claws or something similar.
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Ragnar has infinitely more attacks because he'll actually survive to get into combat (even if hes slow). Discolords are often just a trap.
Sure. And inversely, an 11 Attacks Frozen Star Solitaire or a 9 Attacks Teeth-of-Terra/Imperium Sword Jump Captain are probably better than Ragnar, because they can get into the meaningful combats quicker and more reliable.
Just saying that Disco-Lord is (to my knowledge) probably the current champion of the mathhammer game of "how many attacks can a single model theoretically have".
If you want to talk about relevant attacks as a function of actually reaching combat reliably on the first turn then a White Scar Biker Captain with the Teeth of Terra at least deserves a mention. 8+1d3 attacks on the charge with the right Warlord Trait coupled with a minimum 22" melee threat range, and if you're backing him up with a jump-libby carrying the Plume of the Plainsrunner you can bump that to minimum 24" threat range and throw immunity to overwatch on top of it.
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Actually Ragnar recruited himself. He was the chapter's youngest recruiter ever at the time too! He just skipped all the steps between "not a space wolf" and "space wolf recruiter".
Sorry I don't know the silly name for space wolf recruiters, I'm gonna guess grey wolves claws or something similar.
Hmmmmmmmm...
Your real name wouldn't happen to be Phil Kelly by chance would it?
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Actually Ragnar recruited himself. He was the chapter's youngest recruiter ever at the time too! He just skipped all the steps between "not a space wolf" and "space wolf recruiter".
Sorry I don't know the silly name for space wolf recruiters, I'm gonna guess grey wolves claws or something similar.
actually it's the wolf preists who are their recruiters.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Actually Ragnar recruited himself. He was the chapter's youngest recruiter ever at the time too! He just skipped all the steps between "not a space wolf" and "space wolf recruiter".
Sorry I don't know the silly name for space wolf recruiters, I'm gonna guess grey wolves claws or something similar.
actually it's the wolf preists who are their recruiters.
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Actually Ragnar recruited himself. He was the chapter's youngest recruiter ever at the time too! He just skipped all the steps between "not a space wolf" and "space wolf recruiter".
Sorry I don't know the silly name for space wolf recruiters, I'm gonna guess grey wolves claws or something similar.
actually it's the wolf preists who are their recruiters.
He was half right and got the wolf part.
getting the wolf bit though doesn't count given that's a given
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
oh man only a formation allows for that? and that is the only "Grot Kulture"
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
Mother earth is pregnant for the third time, for y'all have knocked her up. I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe, but I was not offended. For I knew I had to rise above it all, or drown in my own gak.
Waaagh! Grotz would have been the perfect time to add squig herds to 40K...
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Well, no way to take Grot HQs, no way to use stratagems, so...meh. Seems pretty mechanically good I guess, with the boost to already stronk mek gunz and grots with a 6++.
"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
vim_the_good wrote: Damn! I really thought we would get a real grot army with a grot hq. Oh well...
Well Makari is a grot HQ. Sadly, that's still pretty limiting as he's unique. 2 grot HQs or 1 generic grot HQ would allow for grot battalion detachments, if not brigades as there is no grot elite unit.
I suppose the silver lining for me is that the detachment isn't LIMITED to gretchin models. so I can use my mangler squigs as bonebreaka, my looted carnifex as deff dread, my fanatics as double choppa nobz and my gobbapaloozas as weirdboyz without having to fiddle with multiple detachments to get the grot subkultur in there.
What's really kinda saddening is that there's not 3-4 grot stratagems just to spice things up. Not being able to use any strats makes actual purist grot armies very boring.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
If stratagems explicitly call out gretchin, they can use them, so there might still be some.
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
Jidmah wrote: If stratagems explicitly call out gretchin, they can use them, so there might still be some.
Hopefully. Not holding my breath though, if there was anything I doubt that they'd have put in a whole preview article for just the one small rule.
"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
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