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From the interview with Duncan Waugh on the voxcast, it sound like one of the upcoming armies is going to have a pretty strange new mechanic as part of their update. He's very vague about it, but contrasts it against things like the stratagems that just buff a unit and picking subfaction traits from a list.

It's super vague, because he's not spoiling anything but apparently this new type of thing of 'faction specific mechanics' is something that will probably be applied across other armies in the future.
I'd probably put my money on daemons, as I can see how that is more of a fluid thing and doesn't lend itself that well to subfactions.

 Tastyfish wrote:
From the interview with Duncan Waugh on the voxcast, it sound like one of the upcoming armies is going to have a pretty strange new mechanic as part of their update. He's very vague about it, but contrasts it against things like the stratagems that just buff a unit and picking subfaction traits from a list.

It's super vague, because he's not spoiling anything but apparently this new type of thing of 'faction specific mechanics' is something that will probably be applied across other armies in the future.
I'd probably put my money on daemons, as I can see how that is more of a fluid thing and doesn't lend itself that well to subfactions.

Yeah I mean, you can't exactly do custom subfactions for daemons...

Surprisingly, that sounds like some of the concepts that were purportedly being floated for the Cult Mechanicus range before they settled on the abysmal "buff is better when moar units on table" bit.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Surprisingly, that sounds like some of the concepts that were purportedly being floated for the Cult Mechanicus range before they settled on the abysmal "buff is better when moar units on table" bit.

What were those, I don't think I've heard much about Cult Mechanicus early concepts?

Supposedly, the "Canticles" were going to be applied on a unit by unit basis rather than army-wide.

As in electropriests get elctro-ier the more you get, or having lots of electropriests imbued everyone else with a faint voltaic field?

 Tastyfish wrote:
As in electropriests get elctro-ier the more you get, or having lots of electropriests imbued everyone else with a faint voltaic field?

Canticles of the Omnissiah, as in the army-wide thing that last edition granted different benefits based on the number of units on the field.

Ex:
Shroudpsalm gave you "Stealth" if you had 1-3 units on the field with the "Canticles" special rule.
4-7 units gave you "Shrouded".
8+ gave you both.

There was some rumoring going around back then that Cult stuff was originally intended to have a fairly powerful effect but it would be dependent upon the utilization of the Canticle by specific units.

Was it rumour based in anything, or just became a thing because lots of people talked about it/one source said it might have happened etc?

the_scotsman wrote:

 Tastyfish wrote:
From the interview with Duncan Waugh on the voxcast, it sound like one of the upcoming armies is going to have a pretty strange new mechanic as part of their update. He's very vague about it, but contrasts it against things like the stratagems that just buff a unit and picking subfaction traits from a list.

It's super vague, because he's not spoiling anything but apparently this new type of thing of 'faction specific mechanics' is something that will probably be applied across other armies in the future.
I'd probably put my money on daemons, as I can see how that is more of a fluid thing and doesn't lend itself that well to subfactions.

Yeah I mean, you can't exactly do custom subfactions for daemons...

I'd had a chat with my gaming buddies a while back and we wondered if they'd make a rule that gave some kind of reward to mixed daemons armies, kinda like a table where if you had nurgle + khorne your army bonus was x, but if it was nurgle and slaanesh it was y sort of thing.

Goonhammer posted a lore summary of Saga of the Beast.

Summary:

 Segersgia wrote:
Goonhammer posted a lore summary of Saga of the Beast.

Summary:

Spoiler:

Pyrrhic victory after Pyrrhic victory for the Space Wolves, with the Orks winning only one of six battles by teleporting away to a different part of the galaxy.

And you know the best part about this? Ghazghkull and Ragnar aren't even featured in the BOOK!

Wow, somehow GW managed to drop below even my lowest of expectations.

I don't trust fluff summaries. Too many people read what they want to read.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Segersgia wrote:
Goonhammer posted a lore summary of Saga of the Beast.

Summary:

Spoiler:

Pyrrhic victory after Pyrrhic victory for the Space Wolves, with the Orks winning only one of six battles by teleporting away to a different part of the galaxy.

And you know the best part about this? Ghazghkull and Ragnar aren't even featured in the BOOK!

Wow, somehow GW managed to drop below even my lowest of expectations.

That plot is par for the course for ghaz though isn't it?

 Jidmah wrote:
I don't trust fluff summaries. Too many people read what they want to read.

Meh. M-O so far was excactly as described.

Haven't seen anyone post this, Fabius?

So is this confirmation that James Woods is immortal?

Fabulous Bill is back baby!

ChrisB wrote:
Haven't seen anyone post this, Fabius?

I'm sorry but I cannot take that face seriously.

Uhh that face is a tough one.

ChrisB wrote:
Haven't seen anyone post this, Fabius?

Awfully rude of someone to rip a fart right in front of Fabius' face like that, judging by his reaction.

Das_Ubermike wrote:

ChrisB wrote:
Haven't seen anyone post this, Fabius?

Awfully rude of someone to rip a fart right in front of Fabius' face like that, judging by his reaction.

Nah, his face really always looks like that.

If theres a miniature that should have that face, it is the Fabious Vile one.

Bile's expresion makes it look like he's just seen the quality of the sculpting of his hair.

ChrisB wrote:
Haven't seen anyone post this, Fabius?

And he would have gotten away with it too! If it wasn't for those pesky Primaris and their meddling Primarch!

Excellent body. Perfectly wasp thin and exactly as described in the novels. The head? Yeah... no. Awful, awful sculpt.

There's something off about his proportions and not in the good slaanesh way. Between the 5 head and waist that suggests he's not actually wearing power armour, but the chest and weirdly squared arm joints that suggest he is. I actually don't like it much and I thought I would.

Dudeface wrote:
There's something off about his proportions and not in the good slaanesh way. Between the 5 head and waist that suggests he's not actually wearing power armour, but the chest and weirdly squared arm joints that suggest he is. I actually don't like it much and I thought I would.

That's exactly how he is described in the books and it's perfect.

"...even armoured he was skeletally thin, like some parasitic insect crouched inside the shrunken carapace of a previous victim..."

The head, less so. Doesn't match his description at all.

 Grimtuff wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
There's something off about his proportions and not in the good slaanesh way. Between the 5 head and waist that suggests he's not actually wearing power armour, but the chest and weirdly squared arm joints that suggest he is. I actually don't like it much and I thought I would.

That's exactly how he is described in the books and it's perfect.

"...even armoured he was skeletally thin, like some parasitic insect crouched inside the shrunken carapace of a previous victim..."

The head, less so. Doesn't match his description at all.

I get that, but armour doesn't care how thin you are it is just the shape and size that it is. The only thing I can see that makes sense is the waist is primarily cabling/trunking for a heresy area marine, so could be a little thinner at best? Either way I guess it fits his fluff even if it makes little sense!

Dudeface wrote:
There's something off about his proportions and not in the good slaanesh way. Between the 5 head and waist that suggests he's not actually wearing power armour, but the chest and weirdly squared arm joints that suggest he is. I actually don't like it much and I thought I would.

It isn't a 5head when you're rocking a skullet.

 Grimtuff wrote:
Excellent body. Perfectly wasp thin and exactly as described in the novels. The head? Yeah... no. Awful, awful sculpt.

I didn't know they made Power Armour to match body shape. That's really cool.