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 Overread wrote:
Genstealers are a super old design too - whilst they've had some updated kits over the years I think the overall design is still the same pose and structure that they've had since the space-hulk days.


Pose yes, structure no. The old SH models had a big 'pocket' of a fleshy, ribbed mass in the middle of their back carapace (one duplicated on the two Overkill models)- that was replaced on the main kit (and replacement Space Hulk).

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All of my Renegade Guard squad sergeants are armed with chainsword and bolter so this is like a gift from on high for me. Now I just have to try getting a hold of one or two...

It's honestly a shame how limited this miniature will be as I could imagine it being a really popular conversion base.
   
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Really like the model, will have to make a special trip to pick one up!

Does anybody have a list of stores where she will be available, or a way to be notified when she does become available?
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
She'd likely be $35 or so.

The plastic Lictor bit was a joke, as she's seemingly standing on the head of what looks like a potentially redesigned one.


A Catachans vs Tyranids campaign book/release with new Lictors, new Genestealers, new catachan squad and command squad would be the dopest gak ever.


Isn’t the command squad newer and more proportioned than the old ones? That wouldn’t need redoing would it?
Some new Catachan Elite unit most likely.
   
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 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Really like the model, will have to make a special trip to pick one up!

Does anybody have a list of stores where she will be available, or a way to be notified when she does become available?


Not at the moment.

Last year, when Berek The Indomitable was revealed, they confirmed the first opportunity for him and Leena, which was in Australia.

We may also see a second such model soon, as Leena and Berek were revealed separately last year. I think.

Will be keeping an eye out for opportunities so I can service the loot group. Will report back here as and when I know something useful.
   
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Danny76 wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:

A Catachans vs Tyranids campaign book/release with new Lictors, new Genestealers, new catachan squad and command squad would be the dopest gak ever.


Isn’t the command squad newer and more proportioned than the old ones? That wouldn’t need redoing would it?
Some new Catachan Elite unit most likely.

Indeed it is. It's a fairly decent kit with pretty much everything you'd want for a command squad plus officer, and the sculpting quality is far improved. GW's resources would be best put towards remaking the basic Catachan infantry and heavy weapons crew.

The supply does not get to make the demands. 
   
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Given that, beyond infantry, IG has done quite well over the years, I'd love to see the following....

New Infantry Squad

New Heavy Weapons Squad.

1 Cadian, 1 Catachan, 1 in some form of Trench Coat (remember, Trench coats are water proof!).

That's six new kits total, which is quite conservative.

Oh, actually....9, because you'll need a command squad for each.

   
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6 kits which are all competing with each other. You don't neccessarily double or triple sales by doubling up regiments you produce. Customer isnt' likely to buy every regiment they produce.

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Unfortunately, GW seems to be moving towards having a single model/kit for every unit entry for quite a while now. I remember when there where like 4-5 different Commissar models available.
   
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 Esmer wrote:
Unfortunately, GW seems to be moving towards having a single model/kit for every unit entry for quite a while now. I remember when there where like 4-5 different Commissar models available.


Part of that is the shift from metals to plastics. Metal moulds are a lot cheaper to produce and, back then, GW was also doing a lot more "Flat" models in that most of the model was a single chunk, with perhaps two arms and a hat to stick on. Today the models are far more dynamic (more parts) and the moulds are far more expensive to produce. I'm surprised they don't do more multi-kit weapon options for things like Commissars and such. GW still has armies like Tyranids which do really wel with a high diversity of units and a lot of optional parts in many kits.

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 Esmer wrote:
Unfortunately, GW seems to be moving towards having a single model/kit for every unit entry for quite a while now. I remember when there where like 4-5 different Commissar models available.


That was back when they were in metal so production expense was basically guy doing new greenstuff model from which to make moulds that were dirt cheap.

People want more plastic but it will also result in more pricier characters and reduces variants.

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There is zero reason why plastic production should limit options.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
There is zero reason why plastic production should limit options.


It limits options in terms of the number of sculpts they can afford to make in comparison to in the days of metal. It's part of the reason why there's only one IG army at present rather than the several which we had back in metal which were the same army with different sculpted themes.

Of course you are right, they could make a single commissar model and give him several hats, arms and weapon options. As I noted Tyranids do this and do it really well through most of their army. GW could certainly continue to do it for other armies, even whilst keeping a highly detailed and dynamic pose.

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 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Danny76 wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:

A Catachans vs Tyranids campaign book/release with new Lictors, new Genestealers, new catachan squad and command squad would be the dopest gak ever.


Isn’t the command squad newer and more proportioned than the old ones? That wouldn’t need redoing would it?
Some new Catachan Elite unit most likely.

Indeed it is. It's a fairly decent kit with pretty much everything you'd want for a command squad plus officer, and the sculpting quality is far improved. GW's resources would be best put towards remaking the basic Catachan infantry and heavy weapons crew.

Wasn't the current Catachan Heavy Weapons team also released alongside the Command Squad? Not saying a new kit wouldn't be nice and all, but I wouldn't say it's warranted.

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 Overread wrote:
Genstealers are a super old design too - whilst they've had some updated kits over the years I think the overall design is still the same pose and structure that they've had since the space-hulk days.


Pose yes, structure no. The old SH models had a big 'pocket' of a fleshy, ribbed mass in the middle of their back carapace (one duplicated on the two Overkill models)- that was replaced on the main kit (and replacement Space Hulk).


There's a few other key differences, such as the design of the rending claw arms which on the old SH models resembling more of a three-pronged crustacean than a hand with three fat digits and big claws taking up the second joint onwards, the lack of the "shoulder pads" that were introduced by the back carapace of the 4th edition sculpt and remained even in the Overkill models, and the lack of nostrils and more compact face structure.

I have an unhealthy nostalgia for the SH Genestealers, in my ideal world another plastic Genestealer set would be a 1:1 replica of them with added poseability, but I did appreciate that little bit of a throwback to them in the Overkill sculpts.
   
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tneva82 wrote:
6 kits which are all competing with each other. You don't neccessarily double or triple sales by doubling up regiments you produce. Customer isnt' likely to buy every regiment they produce.


Counter to that is a range of designs appeal to different people’s aesthetics, thus expanding your potential market.

   
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The extremely three-dimensional dynamic posing style of modern GW miniatures is not very compatible with built-in options.

The supply does not get to make the demands. 
   
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The model looks nice enough, if a little exaggerated. i could have done without the bandana, though.

As great as it is to see a non-Marine store opening model*, Guard really need a redo of their core unit box. Both Catachans and Cadians weren't good when they were released, and the last twenty years did them no favors.



*Well, it really isn't. Putting desirable models on general release is simply superior to artificially limiting them.

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 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Danny76 wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:

A Catachans vs Tyranids campaign book/release with new Lictors, new Genestealers, new catachan squad and command squad would be the dopest gak ever.


Isn’t the command squad newer and more proportioned than the old ones? That wouldn’t need redoing would it?
Some new Catachan Elite unit most likely.

Indeed it is. It's a fairly decent kit with pretty much everything you'd want for a command squad plus officer, and the sculpting quality is far improved. GW's resources would be best put towards remaking the basic Catachan infantry and heavy weapons crew.


The Catachan heavy weapons box already looks fine, it was released along side the command pack and both are much higher quality. All they need to do is redue the 10 man infantry box. Which is why Catachan are actually less work then even fixing the even the cadians ATM, who have only their command pack, which I would argue isn't even all that good. I hope they make a more generic guard release with options for multiple regimental looks, but right now I think Catachan would be the easiest fix.

   
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 Overread wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
There is zero reason why plastic production should limit options.


It limits options in terms of the number of sculpts they can afford to make in comparison to in the days of metal. It's part of the reason why there's only one IG army at present rather than the several which we had back in metal which were the same army with different sculpted themes.

Of course you are right, they could make a single commissar model and give him several hats, arms and weapon options. As I noted Tyranids do this and do it really well through most of their army. GW could certainly continue to do it for other armies, even whilst keeping a highly detailed and dynamic pose.


They could also formally split HH off into its own studio and get a small team at Forgeworld back to doing what Forgeworld was originally meant for - producing niche models for the main product ranges. GW might not be willing to run a metal casting operation anymore to provide multiple Commissars or whatever, but there's no reason they can't make a plastic kit with some modest optional parts, and then FW could produce a couple of alternate poses in resin. Hell these days they wouldn't even need to make the alternatives from scratch, they could just take the CAD asset GW used for the plastic one, rig it, repose it, and print the master model to cast.

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I still don't get why they don't combine things.

Cadians, Mordians, Tallarn, Praetorians are all pretty close to the same base of a tunic-style, either with extra options or a marine chapter-style accessory sprue.

Same goes for Valhallans, Steel Legion (and Death Korps while you're at it) and Vostroyans with medium-length coats.

Catachans are a bit outside of the box, but with a bit of a stretch they could also do Tanith. Call it 5 infantry kits for greatcoats (inf/cmd/heavy) and upgrading Cadian/Catachan infantry squads, a half-dozen accessory sprues of heads and do-dads, and you have 10 fully plastic ranges to work with, which don't cannibalize sales much since many variations are based on accessories.


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Body wise, they just need it be generic enough where a Space Marine Upgrade sprue (ideally) or FW upgrade kit (if it’s the only financially viable option for them) makes it distinct.

Sounds easy, eh? Probably far more involved than my tiny mind can comprehend!

   
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damn thats an ugly model, whats wrong with its face
   
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SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
The proportions of the previous model seem to be closer to real ones of a person. Some parts of the model are amazing, others are... well, very 90s. Those chocolate bar fingers, hideous sculpt of muscles and body thickness of a fridge, that peaks out of under the shirt, That`s not how people`s muscles are, let alone ripped ladie`s. Looks like painted bubblegum. The stance, weapons and face are pretty great.


the body is not unlike any number of female MMA fighters you can look up yourself. Cat Zingano in particular comes to mind, as well as Gina Carano. Muscled fighters do not have hourglass figures. They have solid trunks/stomachs

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I mostly like the model. The face seems peculiarly proportioned, but I bet it looks a lot better at 28mm. If I were a Catachan guy, I'd be all over this.The weapon placement and pose is excellent.

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 Kanluwen wrote:

Sergeant 'Ripper' Jackson
The new exclusive miniature for store opening events is this tough-as-nails Catachan Jungle Fighter veteran sergeant, and she’s ready to lead the charge.
She’s packing a boltgun, chainsword, laspistol (you can never have enough guns), a bionic leg and an intimidating presence – as befitting a leader of the Astra Militarum. This model makes an ideal display piece, from the pose to the scenic jungle base which is decorated with carnivorous plants and a thoroughly deceased Tyranid organism. We’re sure Ripper is going to be a hit with both Astra Militarum players, collectors and painters alike.

We’ll have more information about how to get your hands on this awesome model soon. Look for new store opening events near you, and start planning your trip!

First plastic Lictor too.


Apologies for the threadromancy, but I've been desperate to get my hands on this Catachan mini since I first saw it, it's easily in my top 5 IG minis of all time.

Has it been seen in the wild yet? Is there a new store opening or anniversary soon?

Are GW stores even back open yet in the UK?
   
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As far as I'm aware, she has not been. July is usually when they 'reset' the store opening/anniversary models, so she would have been first seen then.

Hopefully once GW opens all of their shops back up after all of this mess, they just make her available online alongside of the Catachan Colonel that was slated to be a Store Anniversary model alongside of her.
   
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I'd almost forgot about her - I need to find an good excuse to purchase her and make her more - stealer

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So she isn't out yet? My brother has a Catachan 3rd Ed. army that could use a decidedly awesome Lieutenant/Sergeant.

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