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Eh italy is moving out of super lockdown(term they used complete reopening). NZ is moving away stating they have conquered virus completely. US meanwhile has very poor lockdown not even followed that well.

More to do with severity of situation. Italy is going to reopen country but situation is still pretty grim. US has thousands dying every day. Hardly safest places to reopen yet.

NZ is likely due to restrictions coming TO country rather than internal lockdown.

Very pleased to see this and seesaw GW are handling it- that catachan model is pretty cool!

BTW just got clarification from GW that forge world is not reopening yet for physical products.

Darn. That store is where next miniatures I want to buy is located at.

Still waiting on GW to get back to me on the status of a mail order they've lost track off when this all kicked off, though they have refunded another order I put in that was to be delivered to the store. Store is open right now, but they cancelled and refunded it anyway, tossing in a generous amount on top to soften the blow.

So are the GW factories re-opening too? Or were they never closed to start with? Or just not mentioned?

deano2099 wrote:
So are the GW factories re-opening too? Or were they never closed to start with? Or just not mentioned?

"With the factory still locked down, we are likely to see a few more items than usual go out of stock, and it may take us a bit longer than normal to resupply them."
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/04/28/reopening-soon-games-workshop-com/
Factories still closed it seems.

Wow that's very cool of GW to give GLGS some free miniatures, didn't expect that but that sure raise my opinion of them!

Also I remember a lot of discussion when those binoculars appeared in the rumor engine about whether it was going to be new ork commandos or a Catachan, I guess now we know .

deano2099 wrote:
So are the GW factories re-opening too? Or were they never closed to start with? Or just not mentioned?

They presumably won't be talking about it until the UK reviews it's lockdown plans on the 7th of May.

deano2099 wrote:
So are the GW factories re-opening too? Or were they never closed to start with? Or just not mentioned?

Factories are still closed. In a warehouse they can move pretty everything to allow them to follow social distancing rules. I imagine that will be much more difficult in the factory.

 Aenar wrote:
US, Canada, NZ, Australia and Italy are the 5 countries to which they won't be selling nor shipping for the foreseeable future.
UK and rest of Europe should be fine, apparently:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Keeping-Our-Staff-Safe

It's not really fair that canada is on this list. but I expected this as we get our stuff from a US distribution hub.

Thanks America.

Chikout wrote:

deano2099 wrote:
So are the GW factories re-opening too? Or were they never closed to start with? Or just not mentioned?

Factories are still closed. In a warehouse they can move pretty everything to allow them to follow social distancing rules. I imagine that will be much more difficult in the factory.

It's also possible that certain machinery has to be operated by two people for safety reasons.

 Jidmah wrote:

Chikout wrote:

deano2099 wrote:
So are the GW factories re-opening too? Or were they never closed to start with? Or just not mentioned?

Factories are still closed. In a warehouse they can move pretty everything to allow them to follow social distancing rules. I imagine that will be much more difficult in the factory.

It's also possible that certain machinery has to be operated by two people for safety reasons.

I suspect its less machine and more picker and packing that might be the issue. However it could also be that key operations people are self isolating; perhaps they are in highly vulnerable groups or live with people in those groups. They might even live with medical staff and thus be self isolating to reduce any chance of infection spreading.

I understand that when the website reopens only 6 people will be able to log in at a time to reduce the chance of viruses.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I understand that when the website reopens only 6 people will be able to log in at a time to reduce the chance of viruses.

Be better.

Just note for the UK - the webstore comes online on the 1st which technically means that the two specials on offer right now could be added to a regular order for shipping purposes? Though as the specials aren't yet made (currently they've got a 180day ordering window) it might be a long wait for such an order.

Its fantastic news that the warehouses are to reopen shortly, in some capacity.

A big thank you to GW for their little extra support for independents with the Catachan model. Not a model I'm interested in myself but the gesture is admirable all the same.

That said, he wouldn't go a miss in a game of Lost Patrol...

Remember folks the voucher from GW is still available that gives you an extra £5 on top of £50 so if your going to spend it take advantage

Just remember if you buy the voucher from the GW Website you can only use it there. If you get it from the FW website you can only use it there.

Whilst they've got the same promotion they are different stores and use different codes/vouchers. I'm sure Gw might be able to swap them over but that's clearly a customer service hassle and might take longer to process.



I'm sorely tempted to get some, but I've also really got to get myself some storage and transport for my models. My desk is getting way beyond cluttered.

 Overread wrote:
Just note for the UK - the webstore comes online on the 1st which technically means that the two specials on offer right now could be added to a regular order for shipping purposes? Though as the specials aren't yet made (currently they've got a 180day ordering window) it might be a long wait for such an order.

Due to "With many of our retail stores still closed, the “ship-to-store” delivery option won’t be available. To offset this, we’re reducing the Free Shipping threshold by 50% in all territories where this option was previously available.", just one of the exclusives should be sufficient for free shipping in the £ and € territories at least.
After giving up on the Sister with the price + shipping, this suddenly becomes dangerously tempting...

They cancelled my order for Saga of the Beast, and gave me a £30 e-voucher.

Guess I’m ordering that and maybe a pot of paint Friday morning!

My problematic order has been nicely resolved and has been put back in the system along with an upgrade to fast shipping for free, which is nice of them as I insisted on paying for shipping if they couldn't merge orders, because as nice as free shipping is, especially with the lower threshold now, it isn't when Royal Mail is involved, turning that free shipping into a six to eight week wait before they can be arsed to finally deliver it, which is under normal circumstances. Ugh.

But anyway, hopefully, finally, soon, I'll be able to get started on those Sisters (especially that Canoness!) and Ghazghkull the Nob reinforcements.

All in all, quite pleased with how this all has been resolved by GW, didn't expect them to start up again so soon, as I wrote my email last Saturday, but their customer services reps have earned a good review from me yet again.

Hopefully they'll open up the floodgates on some of those postponed released as well, got quite a few vouchers from a friend to make up for an utterly gak birthday this year, do want Engine War and Aeronautica.

God forbid, they might actually start previewing Engine War rules for those 4 factions. One day. Maybe. Probably in July.

I'm pleased to see the warehouses and online store re-opening in some capacity (so long as they're properly set up for the safety of their staff), mainly because it means independent stores will be able to get stock in again. Sure, that doesn't help brick-and-mortar-only stores much, but at least here in the UK a good number FLGS's have an online presence and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them made most of their sales online. They've all been cleared out of stock over the last month, and it will be good for them to get some stock in and cash flowing again, so long as GW has enough stock to last. For example, one store that I use had been basically shut down, and the owner has announced he'll start taking orders again.

I'm curious as to how well they'll keep things in stock - they say we might see a few more things than normal go out of stock and take longer to resupply, but I imagine when they determine the production schedule, they make enough of each kit to last their usual sales until that kit is back on the production rota again, otherwise they're paying to hold pointless overstock. I wonder how often each one gets a production run under normal circumstances, it will have a big impact on just how long their stock lasts. I won't order anything just yet - except maybe vouchers. If the stock's limited, it doesn't need the massive pile-of-shame hoarders like me buying up what little's available!

I'm not sure how I feel about the Catachan Colonel. The way they announced it made it seem like a really classy move, then when the various independent stores started reporting that they're only going to be getting 3 or 4 at most, it lost a fair bit of its shine. It's still GW giving the stores free models, and it's still good, but the way they announced it made it seem a more significant gesture than that. "You can keep all of the profits" sounds great, until you realise that you're not making that much even off your entire store allocation. I expect the quantities are strictly limited by how many GW had already produced. If it was supposed to be an event model/store opening/whatever, then the quantities they'd cast won't go very far at all if you start trying to spread them around all the indies.

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Just note for the UK - the webstore comes online on the 1st which technically means that the two specials on offer right now could be added to a regular order for shipping purposes? Though as the specials aren't yet made (currently they've got a 180day ordering window) it might be a long wait for such an order.

Due to "With many of our retail stores still closed, the “ship-to-store” delivery option won’t be available. To offset this, we’re reducing the Free Shipping threshold by 50% in all territories where this option was previously available.", just one of the exclusives should be sufficient for free shipping in the £ and € territories at least.
After giving up on the Sister with the price + shipping, this suddenly becomes dangerously tempting...

I was thinking the same thing. Anybody who wants just one of the made-to-orders, wait until Friday to order and you won't pay shipping.

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Just note for the UK - the webstore comes online on the 1st which technically means that the two specials on offer right now could be added to a regular order for shipping purposes? Though as the specials aren't yet made (currently they've got a 180day ordering window) it might be a long wait for such an order.

Due to "With many of our retail stores still closed, the “ship-to-store” delivery option won’t be available. To offset this, we’re reducing the Free Shipping threshold by 50% in all territories where this option was previously available.", just one of the exclusives should be sufficient for free shipping in the £ and € territories at least.
After giving up on the Sister with the price + shipping, this suddenly becomes dangerously tempting...

Well you could also support FLGS by ordering sister from there. I have mine delivered to Fantasiapelit.


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 Virules wrote:
God forbid, they might actually start previewing Engine War rules for those 4 factions. One day. Maybe. Probably in July.

After preorder is announced. Just like every book. Engine war isn't special snowflake.


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 Bellerophon wrote:
I'm pleased to see the warehouses and online store re-opening in some capacity (so long as they're properly set up for the safety of their staff), mainly because it means independent stores will be able to get stock in again. Sure, that doesn't help brick-and-mortar-only stores much, but at least here in the UK a good number FLGS's have an online presence and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them made most of their sales online. They've all been cleared out of stock over the last month, and it will be good for them to get some stock in and cash flowing again, so long as GW has enough stock to last. For example, one store that I use had been basically shut down, and the owner has announced he'll start taking orders again.

I'm curious as to how well they'll keep things in stock - they say we might see a few more things than normal go out of stock and take longer to resupply, but I imagine when they determine the production schedule, they make enough of each kit to last their usual sales until that kit is back on the production rota again, otherwise they're paying to hold pointless overstock. I wonder how often each one gets a production run under normal circumstances, it will have a big impact on just how long their stock lasts. I won't order anything just yet - except maybe vouchers. If the stock's limited, it doesn't need the massive pile-of-shame hoarders like me buying up what little's available!

Until they can restart factories what GW has on warehouse is it. There won't be resupply to stuff even GW ran out. Now if UK eases up restrictions then GW can restart factories though that won't be instant(had GW reopened on preliminary reopening date that would have been around 1.5...so about 2 weeks or so).

Since GW doesn't have HUGE stores don't expect stores to last forever though. If you need something better to get it sooner rather than later.

tneva82 wrote:
If you need something better to get it sooner rather than later.

This is very good advise - check if any of the paints you desperately need are about to run out. Check if you have enough primer to paint the stuff you want to paint in the next weeks. If you want some models to work on to keep your sanity, buy them.

But please don't hoard stuff. Other people also need paints or a new project to keep occupied in times where many other activities have been made impossible.

tneva82 wrote:

Until they can restart factories what GW has on warehouse is it. There won't be resupply to stuff even GW ran out. Now if UK eases up restrictions then GW can restart factories though that won't be instant(had GW reopened on preliminary reopening date that would have been around 1.5...so about 2 weeks or so).

Since GW doesn't have HUGE stores don't expect stores to last forever though. If you need something better to get it sooner rather than later.

Yeah I know - that was my point! I was speculating under normal circumstances how much stock they actually hold in the warehouse - because I'd expect they only carry enough to last until the next time they plan cast that particular kit. Just how they structure the regular production schedule will have a large bearing on how much stock they hold, and consequently how long it takes for things to run out in these strange times because they're not replenishing things that run out.

 Bellerophon wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Until they can restart factories what GW has on warehouse is it. There won't be resupply to stuff even GW ran out. Now if UK eases up restrictions then GW can restart factories though that won't be instant(had GW reopened on preliminary reopening date that would have been around 1.5...so about 2 weeks or so).

Since GW doesn't have HUGE stores don't expect stores to last forever though. If you need something better to get it sooner rather than later.

Yeah I know - that was my point! I was speculating under normal circumstances how much stock they actually hold in the warehouse - because I'd expect they only carry enough to last until the next time they plan cast that particular kit. Just how they structure the regular production schedule will have a large bearing on how much stock they hold, and consequently how long it takes for things to run out in these strange times because they're not replenishing things that run out.

I'm no expert but I thought that it was cheaper to do big huge runs on machines and store the sprues than it is to do small runs and contently change the molds in the limited number of machines?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Bellerophon wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Until they can restart factories what GW has on warehouse is it. There won't be resupply to stuff even GW ran out. Now if UK eases up restrictions then GW can restart factories though that won't be instant(had GW reopened on preliminary reopening date that would have been around 1.5...so about 2 weeks or so).

Since GW doesn't have HUGE stores don't expect stores to last forever though. If you need something better to get it sooner rather than later.

Yeah I know - that was my point! I was speculating under normal circumstances how much stock they actually hold in the warehouse - because I'd expect they only carry enough to last until the next time they plan cast that particular kit. Just how they structure the regular production schedule will have a large bearing on how much stock they hold, and consequently how long it takes for things to run out in these strange times because they're not replenishing things that run out.

I'm no expert but I thought that it was cheaper to do big huge runs on machines and store the sprues than it is to do small runs and contently change the molds in the limited number of machines?

I work in a closely-related industry and that's broadly correct. There's a bit of a trade-off depending on the kit, for example Baneblades may have a large, heavy set of molds that take some time to switch over, but at the same time there might not be enough warehouse space to store a significant amount of those large sprues. However you would see higher production runs of small single-character sprues as they take very little space to store, so it may be worthwhile to run off say a year's worth at once.

With the exception of limited run items, GW doesn't completely sell out of new product releases all that often. When they do stocks are usually replenished quite quickly, which implies that packing is the bottleneck. That makes me think they do lean towards significant production runs and therefore hold a lot of safety stock.

tneva82 wrote:
BTW just got clarification from GW that forge world is not reopening yet for physical products.

Darn. That store is where next miniatures I want to buy is located at.

Dang. I just about to ask that. I wanted to pick up some stuff from there too ;_;

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

I'm no expert but I thought that it was cheaper to do big huge runs on machines and store the sprues than it is to do small runs and contently change the molds in the limited number of machines?

Problem is warehouse isn't cheap either. Models sitting there and not moving is costing money to the GW. There's reason why stuff constantly go out of stock in GW. They don't have big stores of sprues precisely to keep down stock sitting on shelves wasting money.

Inventory that doesn't move costs money. Companies try to minimize that. Just In Time so to speak. So GW isn't some bottomless pool of models. They run out of stock even when factory is up and running. Now that factory is shut down and not doing single sprue or paint obviously out of stock is going to increase. Especially after about month of not being able to order. People likely are going to order stuff quite a bit. Plus stores will be restocking their shelves as well.


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 xttz wrote:
With the exception of limited run items, GW doesn't completely sell out of new product releases all that often. When they do stocks are usually replenished quite quickly, which implies that packing is the bottleneck. That makes me think they do lean towards significant production runs and therefore hold a lot of safety stock.

Ossirchs ran out of kits early up. So did sisters of battle for that matter. And when AT got the reaver kit that was out of stock for a while as well.