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Looks super interesting, but I'll wait for retail and pick up a load.

For me contrasts were a turn off due to price and difficult control. These appear to solve both, so I'm all in for an improved version of these type of paints.

VBS wrote:
Looks super interesting, but I'll wait for retail and pick up a load.

For me contrasts were a turn off due to price and difficult control. These appear to solve both, so I'm all in for an improved version of these type of paints.

I have to wonder though - that last pic - they have a step 1, 2, 3 - where is 4 & 5? Surely 4 & 5 is the money-shot? Why no 4 & 5? I'm dubious tbh.

Is there a good USA distributor/store for Scale75 paints?

I'd hate to get hooked and then...not have a good local-ish source for more.

Paints!

I'm talking about their paints!

Backed at spellcaster (Big wooden box) level. I like contrasts, though I don't use them all that much, and having all the paints will help vary my colour schemes a bit. My only experience with S75 so far have been their metallics, but they are *excellent*

 Alpharius wrote:
Is there a good USA distributor/store for Scale75 paints?

I'd hate to get hooked and then...not have a good local-ish source for more.

Paints!

I'm talking about their paints!

Scale 75 has a American warehouse with its own website. Also, as I mentioned in a previous post, fantazation miniatures.

 Alpharius wrote:
Is there a good USA distributor/store for Scale75 paints?

I'd hate to get hooked and then...not have a good local-ish source for more.

Paints!

I'm talking about their paints!

Miniaturemarket
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/searchresults/?q=#/?_=1&filter.manufacturer=Scale%2075%20USA
Link to their listings of Scale 75 USA

Miniature market only sells singles, not a negative thing but some sets are cheaper, and don't carry the whole line.

It was only a matter of time before other companies came out with their own Contrast alternatives. These look interesting, but possibly a little blotchier than Contrast... some of those samples look ok, some just look messy.

I'd be curious to try them out, and would happily throw in for a paint set, but I'm struggling with the colour mixes they've gone with. Because they've tried to theme them around limited pallets, you wind up with a lot of similar colours, (the 'Healing Potion' set has four different shades of red, which is completely unnecessary for this style of painting) and missing other useful colours.

A single 'general' set with all of the primary colours and a brown and black would have been nice... As it is, to give these a proper go, it looks like it would be necessary to buy at least two different sets to get a decent spread of colours.

Yeah, I'm interested but not in those set breakdowns and not at that price with all of the extra gubbins I don't want or need. I'll wait for retail at one of my UK sources and then just get a bunch of them a la carte with free shipping.

One of the things to remember with these type of paints is it's not just how they look over a single colored base coat of white but how they interact with other colors.

For example the skeletons I posted on the first page were done by using a makeup brush to do a zenithal highlight of sorts in gray scale (I actually do this for all my minis) and then the yellow contrast paint looked green in the black areas and yellow in the white with shifting of colors/contrast between the two This gives you lot more depth and finished look to the quick contrast paint method. The different shades of red will all interact with different bases and their expecting that by selling different primer temperatures for different results.

Contrast paints are basically washes with more ink/pigment in them (a lot more) and can be used similar to an airbrush candy or tint but with a brush. If you've ever seen a deepwars or Shadowsea paint job most likely it was done with custom made "contrast" paints as the technique isn't new. GW was just the first to really productize it.

 insaniak wrote:
A single 'general' set with all of the primary colours and a brown and black would have been nice... As it is, to give these a proper go, it looks like it would be necessary to buy at least two different sets to get a decent spread of colours.

If they had done a custom choice paint set, then I would have jumped in on it without a second thought. As the scale colour range had me hooked as soon as I used them. But as you say, the set's they've gone with are a little restrictive and unnecessary.

Well they'll make it to retail, so i'll just wait for them to hit stores.

Here's an image showing the colors as painted on paper I and on various bases.

These look good, and very interesting - I'll be picking them up at some point in the future, when they're available via retail, post-Kickstarter!

I've just been using colored primers followed by Army Painter wash, then conventional painting mostly for faces.

Miniature on left was painted as a red colored primer followed by AP red ink wash. Right was grey colored primer, purple wash, then conventional painting.

MIni's are from PEG's The Goon miniature series. PEG is currently running a Deadlands RPG KS.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/545820095/deadlands-the-weird-west/?ref=kicktraq

 Monkeysloth wrote:
Didn't know that. I know China does that to keep costs down but first I've heard on the US doing the same.

Well as long as I don't have to pay custom fee's I'm fine with real shipping costs.

Oh you have to pay that too, or at least we do. Which at the very least is VAT (21% regular, 4% for books and such) plus a "handling fee" that might range anywhere from 10 to 50 euros.

One thing to recall for people asking for custom orders of colors is that Scale75 has done that before - and it was major drag on the campaign having to pick and ship hundreds of orders of individual colors to backers. So that’s why no option. Best wait for retail if there are only some very specific colors you want.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Monkeysloth wrote:
Didn't know that. I know China does that to keep costs down but first I've heard on the US doing the same.

Well as long as I don't have to pay custom fee's I'm fine with real shipping costs.

Oh you have to pay that too, or at least we do. Which at the very least is VAT (21% regular, 4% for books and such) plus a "handling fee" that might range anywhere from 10 to 50 euros.

The US has no custom fees/taxes for non commercial purchases and being non-european I can get the VAT removed from my order and even when I've traveled in Europe I've been able to fill out forms to get the vat from purchases returned (though the country really depends on how easy that was/is. Ireland or the UK, pretty simple. France--like having a tooth pulled). That might change at some point as there are some politicians that want to move to more of a VAT/Flat Tax here in the States which probably would add something similar. Really don't know what things will be like in a few years as the dust settles from Covid-19.

I’ll be picking up a load of these once they hit retail,I’m a fan of Scale75 and have faith that they will deliver a great product. It’s just a shame that they don’t allow you to choose your own paints in the KS (and really, who wants to pay for a wooden box?). The KS is also damaged by high Spanish shipping.

 ced1106 wrote:
I've just been using colored primers followed by Army Painter wash, then conventional painting mostly for faces.

Miniature on left was painted as a red colored primer followed by AP red ink wash. Right was grey colored primer, purple wash, then conventional painting.

MIni's are from PEG's The Goon miniature series. PEG is currently running a Deadlands RPG KS.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/545820095/deadlands-the-weird-west/?ref=kicktraq

Spoiler:

I know you mean well Ced, but what does this post have to do with this thread?

I'm probably going to go in at the Wizard level. The 16 paints in that set seem like a useful mix that would help my struggle against the unpainted hordes hiding in the closet. Even when shipping is added it's still about $30 cheaper than buying 16 contrast paints from GW.

Found a local willing to split shipping, so I'll probably get 2-3 sets that don't overlap much with my Contrast collection from KS and then fill in the gaps at retail.

 totalfailure wrote:
One thing to recall for people asking for custom orders of colors is that Scale75 has done that before - and it was major drag on the campaign having to pick and ship hundreds of orders of individual colors to backers. So that’s why no option. Best wait for retail if there are only some very specific colors you want.

To be clear, I wasn't asking for individual colours, but I think they missed a bet with their choices. I'd grab the top row of 8 paints shown on the Wizard pledge in an instant, as they're a really good mix. But 16 colours is too many to test out a range, and the bottom 8 colours are unnecessary duplication. I'm also not interested in any of the other stuff with that pledge. The smaller boxes are themed, rather than offering a mix.

They've offered a great Kickstarter for people who are already comfortable enough with their brand to just buy these and go, but for those just wanting to test the waters this offers nothing useful without putting in an awful lot of money.

Yeah ill just wait till they are on prime to test them out for free shipping.

 insaniak wrote:
The smaller boxes are themed, rather than offering a mix.

That's how all their paint boxes are so it's not new for just the Instant Colors range.

I don't think Scale75 has ever offered a mix or starter set in any of their color ranges. The only thing that would be close is the Scale Color learn to paint to set that came with a mini. Otherwise, it has always been themed to something like shades of the same color, or all metallics, etc.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I know you mean well Ced, but what does this post have to do with this thread?

Well, Instant Colors is sold as a fast way to paint mini's, and I figured I'd post another fast way. Colored primers are cheaper per ounce, since they're sold in larger bottles.

I guess I'll wait, like others, for a retail starter set, if it ever goes on sale. If you're going after non-display painters who want something painted fast, don't expect them to buy several entire ranges of colors, especially when they don't know when to use one red vs. another. $30 for a set is a steep price for six bottles (vs. ten in an Army Painter paint set), for non-display painters who are entering the hobby through cheaper boardgame plastic or Reaper Bones.

EDIT: 8 bottles? Good to know.

t's $30 for 8 bottles not 6 Ced.

 ced1106 wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I know you mean well Ced, but what does this post have to do with this thread?

Well, Instant Colors is sold as a fast way to paint mini's, and I figured I'd post another fast way. Colored primers are cheaper per ounce, since they're sold in larger bottles.

I guess I'll wait, like others, for a retail starter set, if it ever goes on sale. If you're going after non-display painters who want something painted fast, don't expect them to buy several entire ranges of colors, especially when they don't know when to use one red vs. another. $30 for a set is a steep price for six bottles (vs. ten in an Army Painter paint set), for non-display painters who are entering the hobby through cheaper boardgame plastic or Reaper Bones.

EDIT: 8 bottles? Good to know.

Inks over paint without any additional layers cause flares. I would presume Instant Colors don`t do that, nor they require more than 1 layer for the result.

Basicly this is like a GW Contrast take on the paints, right? I`m not sure I could use them outside particular details. The examples shown in the ad are not too impressive, the paint kinda clumps up on big surfaces, which makes the paintjonb look untidy..
Although the unpainted goblin horde, that judges me every day, might want to get the Instant Color treatment.

These quick paintjob hacks tend to only work on certain times of minis
Contrast, Dip, washes over white, Instant color all work better on things with folds, creases, organic things where it can't pool up on large flat surfaces.
They have their place and I use them all, but they totally are bad for certain models.

Something to make choosing easier, posted by a backer in the comments



https://i.imgur.com/xY9JEdV.png

Berserk, Summon and maybe Revive for me.

Got mine in the mail today. Looks alright, i'll report back when I've gotten a chance to use them.